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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 03:41 PM
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118. Konstantin Tsiolkovsky
"To step out onto the soil of asteroids, to lift with your hand a stone on the Moon, to set up moving stations in ethereal space, and establish living rings around the Earth, the Moon, the Sun, to observe Mars from a distance of several tens of versts, to land on its satellites and even on the surface of Mars--what could be more extravagant! However, it is only with the advent of reactive vehicles that a new and great era in astronomy will begin, the epoch of a careful study of the sky . . . The prime motive of my life is to do something useful for people . . . That is why I have interested myself in things that did not give me bread or strength. But I hope that my studies will if not soon but perhaps in the distant future, yield society mountains of grain and limitless power."

Back in 1912, that.

Good man.
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  -Hawking says space colonies needed tocqueville  Jun-13-06 04:31 PM   #0 
  - Alright!  pointblank   Jun-13-06 04:33 PM   #1 
  - 1st, leave Iraq  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 04:35 PM   #2 
     - how about work  BayCityProgressive   Jun-13-06 04:37 PM   #3 
     - Can't we do both?  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 04:38 PM   #6 
     - Of course not! 6.5 billion humans can only do one thing at a time! (n/t)  Posteritatis   Jun-15-06 03:10 PM   #114 
        - LOL! n/t  Xipe Totec   Jun-15-06 09:05 PM   #119 
     - Yes like restore the barrier islands in the Gulf of Mexico, rebuild levees  Swamp Rat   Jun-13-06 04:41 PM   #10 
     - Wow  pointblank   Jun-13-06 04:40 PM   #7 
     - The question what not whether to do it, but how to do it  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 04:43 PM   #11 
     - how to do it w.out destroying the atmosphere of the earth?  pitohui   Jun-15-06 03:01 PM   #109 
     - Yes, and space exploration will increase the food supply  jerry611   Jun-13-06 10:48 PM   #60 
        - Hold on  NoMoreMyths   Jun-14-06 08:21 AM   #75 
     - 3. Profit.  kgfnally   Jun-15-06 02:40 PM   #106 
        - Don't apologize!  Xipe Totec   Jun-15-06 09:07 PM   #120 
  - if we focus all of the same resources and commitment here  bigtree   Jun-13-06 04:37 PM   #4 
  - I don't think he's worried about self-destruction  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 04:40 PM   #8 
     - Yes, I think your right, and agree with Hawking  zippy890   Jun-13-06 06:11 PM   #31 
     - I have children  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 06:23 PM   #37 
        - wonderful video - thanks  zippy890   Jun-13-06 06:57 PM   #45 
           - In my younger days,  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 07:21 PM   #47 
     - Except he suggests as social scientists do that  izzybeans   Jun-13-06 09:39 PM   #52 
     - "being wiped out by a disaster, such as sudden global warming, nuclear war  Lorien   Jun-13-06 10:19 PM   #56 
     - Point taken  Xipe Totec   Jun-14-06 02:12 AM   #71 
     - but would the extinction of the human species be a bad thing  zonmoy   Jun-15-06 12:40 AM   #94 
        - If humans go from natural causes, so will chimps and gorillas  AlienGirl   Jun-15-06 01:37 AM   #98 
        - So we'll be like Noah then?  NoMoreMyths   Jun-15-06 11:27 AM   #103 
        - Let's answer that question empirically  Xipe Totec   Jun-15-06 09:46 AM   #100 
  - I know what he's saying, but...  SmokingJacket   Jun-13-06 04:37 PM   #5 
  - and yet, we could not "save" New Orleans?...somehow  SoCalDem   Jun-13-06 04:41 PM   #9 
  - I'm ready to go...but sigh, we will soil, ruin, and destroy any other...  1620rock   Jun-13-06 04:49 PM   #12 
  - Aw stop! you're embarrassing me!  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 04:54 PM   #15 
  - I think we should cover it with solar panels  impeachdubya   Jun-13-06 05:13 PM   #22 
     - With all due respect to Prof. Meister Ape,  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 06:08 PM   #29 
     - Yes. You would be increasing the net energy of the Earth.  impeachdubya   Jun-13-06 09:39 PM   #53 
     - What about Alexander Abians's idea...  TwoSparkles   Jun-13-06 08:12 PM   #48 
        - Hmmm. I dunno. I've read that some scientists believe the relative  impeachdubya   Jun-13-06 09:58 PM   #54 
           - Moon's going to be gone anyways, its moving AWAY from Earth at about...  Solon   Jun-14-06 12:19 AM   #65 
  - We are? Thanks! Speak for yourself. (n/t)  Posteritatis   Jun-15-06 03:17 PM   #116 
  - Yo SoCal! You're sig animation ROCKS.  tom_paine   Jun-13-06 06:11 PM   #32 
  - Busy busy busy..  SoCalDem   Jun-13-06 06:13 PM   #33 
     - May I copy your sig?  ContraBass Black   Jun-13-06 10:48 PM   #59 
        - sure...  SoCalDem   Jun-14-06 12:45 AM   #66 
  - Strange as it may seem  Posteritatis   Jun-15-06 03:08 PM   #112 
  - What this thread needs is some Neil Young Lyrics  greendog   Jun-13-06 04:52 PM   #13 
  - pu-leeeaze  Bucky   Jun-13-06 04:52 PM   #14 
  - You'd kick the ass of a man with ALS in a wheelchair?  impeachdubya   Jun-13-06 05:05 PM   #21 
  - LOL!  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 06:38 PM   #42 
  - Amen to that - do not fuck with MC Hawking!  wicket   Jun-14-06 07:33 AM   #73 
  - This isn't an either/or scenario  AlienGirl   Jun-13-06 06:16 PM   #34 
  - Its a better project than war at least. EOM  K-W   Jun-13-06 06:27 PM   #39 
  - The earth will not last forever  jerry611   Jun-13-06 10:08 PM   #55 
  - Hawking's is right, been saying this for years myself - the sun will die  The Straight Story   Jun-13-06 10:57 PM   #62 
  - We are actually very fortunate  jerry611   Jun-13-06 11:04 PM   #63 
  - No amount of living responsibly can prevent catastrophic natural disasters  rman   Jun-14-06 09:51 AM   #77 
  - In the long run  ThoughtCriminal   Jun-13-06 04:58 PM   #16 
  - Nope.  blindpig   Jun-13-06 04:59 PM   #17 
  - Well, what are the odds we survive the next 20-40 years?  sutz12   Jun-13-06 05:00 PM   #18 
  - Depends on how much we do about it  Posteritatis   Jun-15-06 03:06 PM   #111 
  - hes stupid. bush already planned trips to mars and stuff...  bullimiami   Jun-13-06 05:02 PM   #19 
  - Hawking. Stupid. LOL, right... (n/t)  Posteritatis   Jun-15-06 03:36 PM   #117 
  - I agree 100%.  impeachdubya   Jun-13-06 05:03 PM   #20 
  - An Appro Quote...  Rosco T.   Jun-13-06 05:14 PM   #23 
  - yes! its the human vision, to explore and evolve  zippy890   Jun-13-06 06:18 PM   #35 
     - It's the goal of all life, maybe also of Gaia  AlienGirl   Jun-13-06 06:21 PM   #36 
        - There's a new thought.(to me) and I am intrigued by it  zippy890   Jun-13-06 06:32 PM   #40 
           - James Tiptree Jr.'s stories feature this theme pretty often  AlienGirl   Jun-13-06 06:38 PM   # 
  - You mean, culling the population is out of the question? Jeepers.  HypnoToad   Jun-13-06 05:14 PM   #24 
  - Hey, As Long As Our Colony contains NO Republicans  Lib Grrrrl   Jun-13-06 05:14 PM   #25 
  - Well, if we had any sense, we would be planning for both...  Peace Patriot   Jun-13-06 05:15 PM   #26 
  - Damn, that was WELL said!  tom_paine   Jun-13-06 06:26 PM   #38 
  - Great physicist and mathematician...  Everybody   Jun-13-06 05:33 PM   #27 
  - If you think so little of humanity  Xipe Totec   Jun-13-06 06:58 PM   #46 
  - 'Bout damn time someone else drew that little distinction. (n/t)  Posteritatis   Jun-15-06 03:05 PM   #110 
  - Oh no. Rocks really do suffer from evil human presence. Guess we should  Random_Australian   Jun-14-06 01:56 AM   #69 
  - He's right!  AlienGirl   Jun-13-06 05:57 PM   #28 
  - It may be that our window of opportunity to explore the stars is closing  tom_paine   Jun-13-06 06:08 PM   #30 
  - How are we going to "mess up" Mars or the Moon?  Phoonzang   Jun-13-06 06:38 PM   #43 
  - I agree with your point. What does it have to do with what I said  tom_paine   Jun-14-06 01:47 AM   #68 
     - Sorry...it has nothing to do with what you said  Phoonzang   Jun-14-06 08:54 PM   #84 
  - Global Warming on Mars will be a good thing  jerry611   Jun-13-06 10:42 PM   #58 
  - We might  Johonny   Jun-13-06 06:37 PM   #41 
  - Of course there is a point...  Solon   Jun-14-06 12:15 AM   #64 
     - stagnation?  Johonny   Jun-14-06 03:35 PM   #82 
        - I mean economic stagnation...  Solon   Jun-15-06 04:12 AM   #99 
           - I really like your idea of capturing Apophis n/t  kgfnally   Jun-15-06 03:10 PM   #113 
              - Its not the only one either...  Solon   Jun-16-06 01:10 AM   #121 
  - And this is news how? Of course we need off-site backup.  politicat   Jun-13-06 06:53 PM   #44 
  - What if the reason that earth appears to be the only  itzamirakul   Jun-13-06 08:26 PM   #49 
  - Many thought ahead of their time...  jerry611   Jun-13-06 10:35 PM   #57 
  - Send The Neo-Cons  AnnieBW   Jun-13-06 08:36 PM   #50 
  - Welcome Post-Bush Visionaries  philly_bob   Jun-13-06 08:46 PM   #51 
  - I know. Right now we've got the "DESTROY it here first, before the  impeachdubya   Jun-14-06 02:00 AM   #70 
  - and some people wonder why we on the left are up in arms...  otokogi   Jun-13-06 10:50 PM   #61 
  - Hawking was a funny lecturer  upi402   Jun-14-06 12:50 AM   #67 
  - Managing small closed ecologies is something that we haven't yet--  eridani   Jun-14-06 07:29 AM   #72 
  - You want to work on the population problem  impeachdubya   Jun-14-06 11:04 PM   #90 
  - Moon Colony Diary - Day 1.  newportdadde   Jun-14-06 08:07 AM   #74 
  - Haven't we already fucked up enough planets?  The Stranger   Jun-14-06 08:39 AM   #76 
  - Yeah, the thought of seeing disposable diapers strewn around Mars...  Prag   Jun-14-06 09:53 AM   #78 
  - I am intrinsically biased towards life over death, or a lack of life.  impeachdubya   Jun-14-06 10:58 PM   #88 
  - And warp drive technology too! And photon torpedoes!  BlooInBloo   Jun-14-06 09:54 AM   #79 
  - Yeah. What kind of *nut* would believe that thing would ever FLY!  impeachdubya   Jun-14-06 11:03 PM   #89 
     - It's possible you misunderstood the thrust of my remark...  BlooInBloo   Jun-14-06 11:38 PM   #91 
        - Yeah- I gotcha.  impeachdubya   Jun-15-06 01:20 AM   #95 
           - np :)  BlooInBloo   Jun-15-06 01:30 AM   #97 
  - Humans don't deserve to spread themselves around space.  Oregonian   Jun-14-06 10:07 AM   #80 
  - Speak for yourself.  impeachdubya   Jun-14-06 10:52 PM   #87 
     - I am speaking for myself.  Oregonian   Jun-15-06 11:12 AM   #101 
     - I don't think it's either/or. I think the perspectives gained by moving  impeachdubya   Jun-15-06 02:16 PM   #105 
     - A-fucking-men. (n/t)  Posteritatis   Jun-15-06 03:13 PM   #115 
  - He should read Gordon R. Dickinson's "The Pritcher Mass."  tomreedtoon   Jun-14-06 01:46 PM   #81 
  - Since hatred, violence and a belief system based upon;  greiner3   Jun-14-06 07:19 PM   #83 
  - Colonizing space is our destiny.  Odin2005   Jun-14-06 10:03 PM   #85 
  - Our Manifest Destiny?  NoMoreMyths   Jun-15-06 11:25 AM   #102 
     - I didn't say anyting about conquering other intelligent species.  Odin2005   Jun-15-06 11:59 AM   #104 
  - I agree with him. Along wtih Arthur C. Clarke, and many others....  Robeson   Jun-14-06 10:08 PM   #86 
  - Konstantin Tsiolkovsky  Posteritatis   Jun-15-06 03:41 PM   #118 
  - Does Hawking have an unlimited supply of Owsley?  LaPera   Jun-15-06 12:23 AM   #92 
  - I don't even think Owsley has any Owsley, anymore.  impeachdubya   Jun-15-06 01:23 AM   #96 
  - Taxi!  mmonk   Jun-15-06 12:26 AM   #93 
  - Yeah. But will they give us Green Cards?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-15-06 02:43 PM   #107 
  - well i hope he is wrong  pitohui   Jun-15-06 02:58 PM   #108 
 

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