Posteritatis
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Thu Jun-15-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #86 |
| 118. Konstantin Tsiolkovsky |
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"To step out onto the soil of asteroids, to lift with your hand a stone on the Moon, to set up moving stations in ethereal space, and establish living rings around the Earth, the Moon, the Sun, to observe Mars from a distance of several tens of versts, to land on its satellites and even on the surface of Mars--what could be more extravagant! However, it is only with the advent of reactive vehicles that a new and great era in astronomy will begin, the epoch of a careful study of the sky . . . The prime motive of my life is to do something useful for people . . . That is why I have interested myself in things that did not give me bread or strength. But I hope that my studies will if not soon but perhaps in the distant future, yield society mountains of grain and limitless power."
Back in 1912, that.
Good man.
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| -Hawking says space colonies needed |
tocqueville |
Jun-13-06 04:31 PM |
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Alright! |
pointblank |
Jun-13-06 04:33 PM |
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1st, leave Iraq |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 04:35 PM |
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how about work |
BayCityProgressive |
Jun-13-06 04:37 PM |
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Can't we do both? |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 04:38 PM |
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Of course not! 6.5 billion humans can only do one thing at a time! (n/t) |
Posteritatis |
Jun-15-06 03:10 PM |
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LOL! n/t |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-15-06 09:05 PM |
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Yes like restore the barrier islands in the Gulf of Mexico, rebuild levees |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-13-06 04:41 PM |
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Wow |
pointblank |
Jun-13-06 04:40 PM |
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The question what not whether to do it, but how to do it |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 04:43 PM |
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how to do it w.out destroying the atmosphere of the earth? |
pitohui |
Jun-15-06 03:01 PM |
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Yes, and space exploration will increase the food supply |
jerry611 |
Jun-13-06 10:48 PM |
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Hold on |
NoMoreMyths |
Jun-14-06 08:21 AM |
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3. Profit. |
kgfnally |
Jun-15-06 02:40 PM |
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Don't apologize! |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-15-06 09:07 PM |
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if we focus all of the same resources and commitment here |
bigtree |
Jun-13-06 04:37 PM |
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I don't think he's worried about self-destruction |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 04:40 PM |
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Yes, I think your right, and agree with Hawking |
zippy890 |
Jun-13-06 06:11 PM |
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I have children |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 06:23 PM |
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wonderful video - thanks |
zippy890 |
Jun-13-06 06:57 PM |
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In my younger days, |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 07:21 PM |
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Except he suggests as social scientists do that |
izzybeans |
Jun-13-06 09:39 PM |
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"being wiped out by a disaster, such as sudden global warming, nuclear war |
Lorien |
Jun-13-06 10:19 PM |
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Point taken |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-14-06 02:12 AM |
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but would the extinction of the human species be a bad thing |
zonmoy |
Jun-15-06 12:40 AM |
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If humans go from natural causes, so will chimps and gorillas |
AlienGirl |
Jun-15-06 01:37 AM |
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So we'll be like Noah then? |
NoMoreMyths |
Jun-15-06 11:27 AM |
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Let's answer that question empirically |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-15-06 09:46 AM |
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I know what he's saying, but... |
SmokingJacket |
Jun-13-06 04:37 PM |
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and yet, we could not "save" New Orleans?...somehow |
SoCalDem |
Jun-13-06 04:41 PM |
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I'm ready to go...but sigh, we will soil, ruin, and destroy any other... |
1620rock |
Jun-13-06 04:49 PM |
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Aw stop! you're embarrassing me! |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 04:54 PM |
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I think we should cover it with solar panels |
impeachdubya |
Jun-13-06 05:13 PM |
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With all due respect to Prof. Meister Ape, |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 06:08 PM |
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Yes. You would be increasing the net energy of the Earth. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-13-06 09:39 PM |
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What about Alexander Abians's idea... |
TwoSparkles |
Jun-13-06 08:12 PM |
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Hmmm. I dunno. I've read that some scientists believe the relative |
impeachdubya |
Jun-13-06 09:58 PM |
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Moon's going to be gone anyways, its moving AWAY from Earth at about... |
Solon |
Jun-14-06 12:19 AM |
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We are? Thanks! Speak for yourself. (n/t) |
Posteritatis |
Jun-15-06 03:17 PM |
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Yo SoCal! You're sig animation ROCKS. |
tom_paine |
Jun-13-06 06:11 PM |
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Busy busy busy.. |
SoCalDem |
Jun-13-06 06:13 PM |
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May I copy your sig? |
ContraBass Black |
Jun-13-06 10:48 PM |
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sure... |
SoCalDem |
Jun-14-06 12:45 AM |
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Strange as it may seem |
Posteritatis |
Jun-15-06 03:08 PM |
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What this thread needs is some Neil Young Lyrics |
greendog |
Jun-13-06 04:52 PM |
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pu-leeeaze |
Bucky |
Jun-13-06 04:52 PM |
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You'd kick the ass of a man with ALS in a wheelchair? |
impeachdubya |
Jun-13-06 05:05 PM |
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LOL! |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 06:38 PM |
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Amen to that - do not fuck with MC Hawking! |
wicket |
Jun-14-06 07:33 AM |
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This isn't an either/or scenario |
AlienGirl |
Jun-13-06 06:16 PM |
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Its a better project than war at least. EOM |
K-W |
Jun-13-06 06:27 PM |
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The earth will not last forever |
jerry611 |
Jun-13-06 10:08 PM |
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Hawking's is right, been saying this for years myself - the sun will die |
The Straight Story |
Jun-13-06 10:57 PM |
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We are actually very fortunate |
jerry611 |
Jun-13-06 11:04 PM |
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No amount of living responsibly can prevent catastrophic natural disasters |
rman |
Jun-14-06 09:51 AM |
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In the long run |
ThoughtCriminal |
Jun-13-06 04:58 PM |
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Nope. |
blindpig |
Jun-13-06 04:59 PM |
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Well, what are the odds we survive the next 20-40 years? |
sutz12 |
Jun-13-06 05:00 PM |
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Depends on how much we do about it |
Posteritatis |
Jun-15-06 03:06 PM |
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hes stupid. bush already planned trips to mars and stuff... |
bullimiami |
Jun-13-06 05:02 PM |
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Hawking. Stupid. LOL, right... (n/t) |
Posteritatis |
Jun-15-06 03:36 PM |
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I agree 100%. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-13-06 05:03 PM |
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An Appro Quote... |
Rosco T. |
Jun-13-06 05:14 PM |
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yes! its the human vision, to explore and evolve |
zippy890 |
Jun-13-06 06:18 PM |
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It's the goal of all life, maybe also of Gaia |
AlienGirl |
Jun-13-06 06:21 PM |
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There's a new thought.(to me) and I am intrigued by it |
zippy890 |
Jun-13-06 06:32 PM |
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James Tiptree Jr.'s stories feature this theme pretty often |
AlienGirl |
Jun-13-06 06:38 PM |
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You mean, culling the population is out of the question? Jeepers. |
HypnoToad |
Jun-13-06 05:14 PM |
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Hey, As Long As Our Colony contains NO Republicans |
Lib Grrrrl |
Jun-13-06 05:14 PM |
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Well, if we had any sense, we would be planning for both... |
Peace Patriot |
Jun-13-06 05:15 PM |
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Damn, that was WELL said! |
tom_paine |
Jun-13-06 06:26 PM |
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Great physicist and mathematician... |
Everybody |
Jun-13-06 05:33 PM |
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If you think so little of humanity |
Xipe Totec |
Jun-13-06 06:58 PM |
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'Bout damn time someone else drew that little distinction. (n/t) |
Posteritatis |
Jun-15-06 03:05 PM |
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Oh no. Rocks really do suffer from evil human presence. Guess we should |
Random_Australian |
Jun-14-06 01:56 AM |
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He's right! |
AlienGirl |
Jun-13-06 05:57 PM |
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It may be that our window of opportunity to explore the stars is closing |
tom_paine |
Jun-13-06 06:08 PM |
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How are we going to "mess up" Mars or the Moon? |
Phoonzang |
Jun-13-06 06:38 PM |
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I agree with your point. What does it have to do with what I said |
tom_paine |
Jun-14-06 01:47 AM |
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Sorry...it has nothing to do with what you said |
Phoonzang |
Jun-14-06 08:54 PM |
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Global Warming on Mars will be a good thing |
jerry611 |
Jun-13-06 10:42 PM |
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We might |
Johonny |
Jun-13-06 06:37 PM |
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Of course there is a point... |
Solon |
Jun-14-06 12:15 AM |
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stagnation? |
Johonny |
Jun-14-06 03:35 PM |
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I mean economic stagnation... |
Solon |
Jun-15-06 04:12 AM |
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I really like your idea of capturing Apophis n/t |
kgfnally |
Jun-15-06 03:10 PM |
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Its not the only one either... |
Solon |
Jun-16-06 01:10 AM |
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And this is news how? Of course we need off-site backup. |
politicat |
Jun-13-06 06:53 PM |
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What if the reason that earth appears to be the only |
itzamirakul |
Jun-13-06 08:26 PM |
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Many thought ahead of their time... |
jerry611 |
Jun-13-06 10:35 PM |
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Send The Neo-Cons |
AnnieBW |
Jun-13-06 08:36 PM |
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Welcome Post-Bush Visionaries |
philly_bob |
Jun-13-06 08:46 PM |
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I know. Right now we've got the "DESTROY it here first, before the |
impeachdubya |
Jun-14-06 02:00 AM |
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and some people wonder why we on the left are up in arms... |
otokogi |
Jun-13-06 10:50 PM |
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Hawking was a funny lecturer |
upi402 |
Jun-14-06 12:50 AM |
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Managing small closed ecologies is something that we haven't yet-- |
eridani |
Jun-14-06 07:29 AM |
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You want to work on the population problem |
impeachdubya |
Jun-14-06 11:04 PM |
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Moon Colony Diary - Day 1. |
newportdadde |
Jun-14-06 08:07 AM |
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Haven't we already fucked up enough planets? |
The Stranger |
Jun-14-06 08:39 AM |
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Yeah, the thought of seeing disposable diapers strewn around Mars... |
Prag |
Jun-14-06 09:53 AM |
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I am intrinsically biased towards life over death, or a lack of life. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-14-06 10:58 PM |
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And warp drive technology too! And photon torpedoes! |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-14-06 09:54 AM |
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Yeah. What kind of *nut* would believe that thing would ever FLY! |
impeachdubya |
Jun-14-06 11:03 PM |
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It's possible you misunderstood the thrust of my remark... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-14-06 11:38 PM |
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Yeah- I gotcha. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-15-06 01:20 AM |
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np :) |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-15-06 01:30 AM |
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Humans don't deserve to spread themselves around space. |
Oregonian |
Jun-14-06 10:07 AM |
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Speak for yourself. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-14-06 10:52 PM |
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I am speaking for myself. |
Oregonian |
Jun-15-06 11:12 AM |
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I don't think it's either/or. I think the perspectives gained by moving |
impeachdubya |
Jun-15-06 02:16 PM |
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A-fucking-men. (n/t) |
Posteritatis |
Jun-15-06 03:13 PM |
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He should read Gordon R. Dickinson's "The Pritcher Mass." |
tomreedtoon |
Jun-14-06 01:46 PM |
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Since hatred, violence and a belief system based upon; |
greiner3 |
Jun-14-06 07:19 PM |
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Colonizing space is our destiny. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-14-06 10:03 PM |
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Our Manifest Destiny? |
NoMoreMyths |
Jun-15-06 11:25 AM |
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I didn't say anyting about conquering other intelligent species. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-15-06 11:59 AM |
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I agree with him. Along wtih Arthur C. Clarke, and many others.... |
Robeson |
Jun-14-06 10:08 PM |
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Konstantin Tsiolkovsky |
Posteritatis |
Jun-15-06 03:41 PM |
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Does Hawking have an unlimited supply of Owsley? |
LaPera |
Jun-15-06 12:23 AM |
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I don't even think Owsley has any Owsley, anymore. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-15-06 01:23 AM |
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Taxi! |
mmonk |
Jun-15-06 12:26 AM |
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Yeah. But will they give us Green Cards? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-15-06 02:43 PM |
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well i hope he is wrong |
pitohui |
Jun-15-06 02:58 PM |
#108 |