PRETZEL
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Tue Jun-13-06 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #79 |
| 89. her post tends me to ask this about Cheney |
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and how it relates to Rove. There undoubtedly is a major power struggle between the Cheney camp and the Rove/Bush camp especially as it relates to Iraq. If we go on the premise that Cheney is the key figure in this (and especially his PNAC philosophy) I tend to think he had the most to gain. Bush may well get the legacy and the historical benefit but Cheney gets the credit within the inner workings of the neo-conservative movement. If that premise is plausible and has some degree of credibility why would Cheney trust Rove to do the dirty work necessary to carry out this plan? Wouldn't Cheney entrust those he's most close to like John Bolton, Steve Hadley etc. to carry out and garner the information needed to expose Ms. Plame and Brewster-Jennings. I,for one, tend to think of this from time to time as just political payback on Ambassador Wilson at the expense of what was the true crime, the damage to Valarie Plame/Wilson and her work. That is the underlying crime that is being investigated.
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| -NBC: KARL ROVE WILL NOT BE INDICTED |
matcom |
Jun-13-06 06:01 AM |
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NO FUCKING WAY!!! |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-13-06 06:02 AM |
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Yea fucking way |
nolabels |
Jun-13-06 10:12 AM |
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Hwy, swamp rat, I don't believe it's over. |
nolies32fouettes |
Jun-13-06 10:18 AM |
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CNN just said the same thing RE: CIA Leak case |
high density |
Jun-13-06 06:03 AM |
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On Washington Journal too--first half hour will take calls on this |
Skidmore |
Jun-13-06 06:03 AM |
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Did they flip him (against Cheney, perhaps)? |
Cooley Hurd |
Jun-13-06 06:03 AM |
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We can hope! |
Marie26 |
Jun-13-06 10:01 AM |
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ABC reporting it now, too. |
Heidi |
Jun-13-06 06:04 AM |
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Nothing on RAW STORY at 7:06 am Eastern |
BeatleBoot |
Jun-13-06 06:05 AM |
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He isn't cooperating. |
yibbehobba |
Jun-13-06 06:12 AM |
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He isn't cooperating? I think you're 100% wrong -- I think he's "flipped" |
johnfunk |
Jun-13-06 07:57 AM |
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They're being careful to not get ahead of the news cycle. ;) nt |
greyl |
Jun-13-06 06:19 AM |
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Ooph! |
arwalden |
Jun-13-06 07:36 AM |
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Raw Story |
alyce douglas |
Jun-13-06 07:38 AM |
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Goddamnit. nt |
bklyncowgirl |
Jun-13-06 06:05 AM |
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Yea, I heard this on KGO radio. What a way to wake up! |
napi21 |
Jun-13-06 06:05 AM |
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Yep me too |
never_get_over_it |
Jun-13-06 06:10 AM |
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Yea, and I have a headache from hell to top it off. |
helderheid |
Jun-13-06 10:23 AM |
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Arrrgh! |
OhioBlues |
Jun-13-06 06:06 AM |
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Here's the link to the NY Times article: |
Heidi |
Jun-13-06 06:07 AM |
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Thank you Heidi, darn he got away with it! |
OhioBlues |
Jun-13-06 06:19 AM |
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Thanks |
Marie26 |
Jun-13-06 09:45 AM |
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Air America Reporting Same... |
neoblues |
Jun-13-06 06:08 AM |
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They're talking about it on CSPAN |
notadmblnd |
Jun-13-06 06:08 AM |
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According to his lawyer |
malaise |
Jun-13-06 06:09 AM |
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ATTORNEY SAYS A LOT OF THINGS, He is your PR Firm.. |
Ioo |
Jun-13-06 06:11 AM |
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I'll wait for Fitz n/t |
malaise |
Jun-13-06 06:12 AM |
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I will too. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jun-13-06 07:33 AM |
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Yes it is hard |
malaise |
Jun-13-06 10:07 AM |
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Did we really think... |
neoblues |
Jun-13-06 06:11 AM |
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I'm not shocked or dismayed, saw it coming. |
Philosoraptor |
Jun-13-06 06:12 AM |
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Well if Rove did not leak Plame's name |
shaniqua6392 |
Jun-13-06 06:12 AM |
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He DID leak her name. That's the wonderful thing about how |
HopeLives |
Jun-13-06 06:16 AM |
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Yeah we're living in Hell as I type....this proves it beyond any doubt... |
jus_the_facts |
Jun-13-06 06:52 AM |
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CNN JUST SAID : Letter from Fitz to KR's Laywer was the Source |
Ioo |
Jun-13-06 06:18 AM |
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yup. Fitz informed his attorney |
matcom |
Jun-13-06 06:19 AM |
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Someone's leaking false info then... |
joeunderdog |
Jun-13-06 06:21 AM |
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Please, just... stop. n/t |
yibbehobba |
Jun-13-06 06:25 AM |
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But...But...But... |
KharmaTrain |
Jun-13-06 06:19 AM |
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agree 100% |
matcom |
Jun-13-06 06:22 AM |
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Justice doesn't always happen and in this case it didn't. Rove |
HopeLives |
Jun-13-06 06:23 AM |
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And You Have Facts Fitzgerald Doesn't??? |
KharmaTrain |
Jun-13-06 06:39 AM |
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Well said. n/t |
5X |
Jun-13-06 06:50 AM |
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Cooper testified that Rove leaked her name to him. That is the basic |
HopeLives |
Jun-13-06 07:08 AM |
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So You Sat In The Grand Jury? |
KharmaTrain |
Jun-13-06 07:22 AM |
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You're neither generating good kharma nor creating peace |
HopeLives |
Jun-13-06 06:12 PM |
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It the Shrub did sign an Executive Order giving Cheney and himself the |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-13-06 07:29 AM |
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If they failed to tell Fitz about that order, it's still OOJ for both. |
leveymg |
Jun-13-06 08:07 AM |
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Fitz very well may have enough to indict Rove and actually DID indict Rove |
cryingshame |
Jun-13-06 10:47 AM |
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Conjecture...Sorry...Play Again |
KharmaTrain |
Jun-13-06 11:55 AM |
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This case isn't over...it's just starting - lol |
prettykitty |
Jun-13-06 07:27 AM |
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SAge Advice from |
zidzi |
Jun-13-06 08:12 AM |
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I don't need a chill pill - I'm too sad. |
FLDem5 |
Jun-13-06 08:13 AM |
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I agree. |
Marr |
Jun-13-06 10:30 AM |
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So far, is the only source |
yasmina27 |
Jun-13-06 06:31 AM |
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Well, they're saying Rove's lawyer will speak to press shortly |
Jersey Devil |
Jun-13-06 06:38 AM |
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Well Duh, is there anyone who didn't already know this? The.......... |
Minnesota Libra |
Jun-13-06 06:36 AM |
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Above . The . Law |
Junkdrawer |
Jun-13-06 06:40 AM |
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It could be another Rove trick |
C_U_L8R |
Jun-13-06 06:41 AM |
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Seedy Gonzales to the rescue... |
Hubert Flottz |
Jun-13-06 06:45 AM |
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smells like an Alberto |
Supersedeas |
Jun-13-06 08:25 AM |
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Karl Rove sang loud and Clear....sealed vs sealed.... |
capi888 |
Jun-13-06 06:52 AM |
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Scooter is going to take the fall all by himself. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Jun-13-06 06:53 AM |
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Someone nominated this ?!?!?! WTF |
stop the bleeding |
Jun-13-06 06:54 AM |
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Did they get to Fitz? |
East Liberty Denizen |
Jun-13-06 07:05 AM |
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oh but no, haven't you heard... |
bridgit |
Jun-13-06 07:06 AM |
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Where is the public statement |
dogday |
Jun-13-06 07:08 AM |
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i don't think that's the way this prosecutor works, he doesn't... |
bridgit |
Jun-13-06 07:19 AM |
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Understood, but if he has cleared Rove |
dogday |
Jun-13-06 07:22 AM |
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well, like i say, it is not a clothes line so as to say, not a running... |
bridgit |
Jun-13-06 07:32 AM |
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If a letter was sent and a phone call was made |
dogday |
Jun-13-06 07:37 AM |
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sure, that works and not just in the abstract, but Fitz shouldn't be... |
bridgit |
Jun-13-06 07:48 AM |
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I was glad to see them |
dogday |
Jun-13-06 08:00 AM |
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"appeals and pardons have a way of popping up" for the wealthy... |
bridgit |
Jun-13-06 08:06 AM |
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but but but some of you knobs stood with Liepold! |
meisje |
Jun-13-06 07:23 AM |
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Name removed |
Jun-13-06 07:26 AM |
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Shame on you |
dogday |
Jun-13-06 07:27 AM |
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I was labeled a cretin, I guess that's ok...... |
meisje |
Jun-13-06 07:58 AM |
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Look I have been called |
dogday |
Jun-13-06 08:02 AM |
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Once again. NBC reports |
DisgustedTX |
Jun-13-06 06:30 PM |
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This just sucks |
alyce douglas |
Jun-13-06 07:31 AM |
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Are You SURE?? Maybe We Should Wait 24 BUSINESS HOURS To Be Positive. |
arwalden |
Jun-13-06 07:38 AM |
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Oooph! :) nt |
greyl |
Jun-13-06 07:41 AM |
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Apparently some on DU will be willing to wait even longer than that, if |
Seabiscuit |
Jun-13-06 12:27 PM |
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NBC is clearly behind the news cycle! |
Bluebear |
Jun-13-06 12:55 PM |
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"...does not anticipate seeking charges against Rove." Wiggle room, Fitz? |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-13-06 07:53 AM |
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The ground rushes up. |
leveymg |
Jun-13-06 07:56 AM |
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leaning toward dramatic end. |
PRETZEL |
Jun-13-06 08:16 AM |
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Do prosecutors commonly do this? |
treestar |
Jun-13-06 08:05 AM |
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No - unless |
Marie26 |
Jun-13-06 09:43 AM |
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Two Words |
petepillow |
Jun-13-06 08:30 AM |
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Just cannot believe this, just cannot.. If he comes out of this |
lonestarnot |
Jun-13-06 08:40 AM |
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I don't think Rover is going to come out "unscathed", exactly. |
leveymg |
Jun-13-06 09:19 AM |
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Thanks leveymg. Yes maybe this will serve to unite. We shall see. |
lonestarnot |
Jun-13-06 09:42 AM |
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her post tends me to ask this about Cheney |
PRETZEL |
Jun-13-06 10:16 AM |
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makes sense to me too, thanks for you thoughts |
DemReadingDU |
Jun-13-06 12:29 PM |
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Rove always weasels out of trouble. Always. |
sparosnare |
Jun-13-06 09:20 AM |
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Well not in the end, he won't. |
lonestarnot |
Jun-13-06 09:42 AM |
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Ya know what........... |
BooScout |
Jun-13-06 10:11 AM |
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Just saw this in my inbox from WaPo |
helderheid |
Jun-13-06 10:19 AM |
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Truthout referred to in WP article |
Marie26 |
Jun-13-06 10:26 AM |
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Truthout=National Enquirerer for Political Junkies, no? n/t |
Clarkie1 |
Jun-13-06 06:15 PM |
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OK, now I can "get over it" if you can. |
Seabiscuit |
Jun-13-06 12:22 PM |
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Somebody's face must be red |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth |
Jun-13-06 01:40 PM |
#101 |
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