| 212. I agree - I sucked milk out of my mother's tit the other day |
| -At What Age Is It Still Appropriate To Nurse A Child? |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:09 AM |
#0 |
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I'd get a different doctor. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-06 11:11 AM |
#1 |
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I second that. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jun-07-06 11:13 AM |
#3 |
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I used to have this dentist... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-06 11:18 AM |
#14 |
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I think we had the same dentist. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jun-07-06 11:31 AM |
#35 |
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Of all professions in the medial field, Dentists have |
Sequoia |
Jun-07-06 11:34 AM |
#42 |
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No kidding? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-06 11:41 AM |
#51 |
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I read it somewhere, I can't give you an exact figure. |
Sequoia |
Jun-07-06 11:49 AM |
#63 |
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How did he screw up the crown? |
drbtg1 |
Jun-07-06 04:29 PM |
#140 |
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Name a way, he probably did it. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jun-07-06 05:42 PM |
#151 |
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Sorry to hear it |
drbtg1 |
Jun-08-06 08:07 AM |
#159 |
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Thanks for the general feedback |
Gormy Cuss |
Jun-08-06 10:31 AM |
#169 |
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You and I have had similiar experiences. |
midnight |
Jun-08-06 08:24 AM |
#161 |
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Mine spent a month insisting that I could NOT have felt any pain |
phylny |
Jun-08-06 04:59 PM |
#194 |
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I couldn't imagine a doctor saying that. |
Kadie |
Jun-07-06 11:16 AM |
#13 |
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I agree - I sucked milk out of my mother's tit the other day |
Cronus Protagonist |
Jun-08-06 10:04 PM |
#212 |
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Oh, we are SO getting another doctor. |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:20 AM |
#19 |
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Holistic bent? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-06 11:22 AM |
#20 |
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. |
Orrex |
Jun-07-06 11:22 AM |
#21 |
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There are plenty of MDs who use natural remedies. |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:27 AM |
#28 |
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I'm sure there are. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-06 11:28 AM |
#30 |
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Could you just once in a while, please |
Dora |
Jun-07-06 11:34 AM |
#41 |
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I'm sorry, was that offensive? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-06 11:41 AM |
#50 |
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holistic medicine |
laundry_queen |
Jun-07-06 11:46 AM |
#58 |
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Once again, a whole lot of nothing. |
Dora |
Jun-07-06 11:47 AM |
#59 |
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I guess we have nothing more to discuss. n/t |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:57 AM |
#69 |
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Weird, because I use natural remedies and so do many people I know. |
haruka3_2000 |
Jun-07-06 01:16 PM |
#105 |
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I tossed my prozac and went to 5-htp years ago |
mycritters2 |
Jun-07-06 01:25 PM |
#108 |
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I use a homeopathic allergy remedy. |
haruka3_2000 |
Jun-07-06 01:29 PM |
#109 |
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I swear by St. John's Wort |
LynneSin |
Jun-07-06 04:02 PM |
#130 |
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What is 5-htp? Some family members suffer from depression, but |
1monster |
Jun-07-06 04:21 PM |
#137 |
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here's a review, with lots of peer-reviewed reference sources |
renate |
Jun-07-06 04:45 PM |
#145 |
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Thanks, I will look into this. |
1monster |
Jun-07-06 07:25 PM |
#157 |
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Thanks for your opinion... |
AnOhioan |
Jun-08-06 01:10 PM |
#177 |
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Holistic is the way to go |
PWRinNY |
Jun-07-06 05:22 PM |
#150 |
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Just ask around. |
missb |
Jun-07-06 11:29 AM |
#32 |
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Mrs. Rucky is a big fan of Dr. Sears |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:43 AM |
#54 |
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Parenting is such a crapshoot anyway. |
missb |
Jun-07-06 11:51 AM |
#64 |
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It depends so much on how you do it |
conflictgirl |
Jun-08-06 06:48 PM |
#204 |
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Look for an Osteopath |
mycritters2 |
Jun-07-06 12:18 PM |
#88 |
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I agree. My DO actually listens to me. n/t |
spacelady |
Jun-08-06 12:57 PM |
#176 |
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I had a very abrasive osteopath, and I have a great M.D. now. |
eyesroll |
Jun-08-06 03:46 PM |
#188 |
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Go for a holistic M.D. |
MorningGlow |
Jun-07-06 01:49 PM |
#112 |
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Glad u r changing docs. that was absurd! |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jun-07-06 02:08 PM |
#113 |
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A Tree Grows in Brooklyn |
juajen |
Jun-07-06 03:47 PM |
#124 |
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Yeah, that kid REALLY was addicted. |
BerryBush |
Jun-07-06 06:53 PM |
#152 |
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agreed |
fishwax |
Jun-08-06 06:22 PM |
#203 |
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So your doctor is about 70, huh? |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Jun-07-06 11:12 AM |
#2 |
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I agree that kids let you know |
jbnow |
Jun-08-06 01:51 PM |
#180 |
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I nursed my both kids until they were 2 1/2 years old. |
Rainscents |
Jun-07-06 11:13 AM |
#4 |
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I have a 4 year old |
danalytical |
Jun-07-06 11:23 AM |
#23 |
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No, it's not. You go to any other country and watch how long mother's |
Rainscents |
Jun-07-06 11:27 AM |
#29 |
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It is not whacky |
One_of_8 |
Jun-07-06 11:34 AM |
#43 |
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Tell that to the mothers in 3rd world countries |
Sequoia |
Jun-07-06 11:40 AM |
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its not wacky at all -when my children were ill, I was SO glad |
FLDem5 |
Jun-07-06 12:32 PM |
#95 |
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Not, it isn't. I nursed my son until he weaned at 3 |
dadsblacksheep |
Jun-07-06 01:29 PM |
#110 |
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That's not what they're implying |
conflictgirl |
Jun-08-06 06:01 PM |
#202 |
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I don't want to debate |
madaboutharry |
Jun-07-06 11:14 AM |
#5 |
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Opinions Differ on Weaning |
REP |
Jun-07-06 11:14 AM |
#6 |
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I am the mother of seven children and I nursed every one of them. |
believerinchrist |
Jun-07-06 11:14 AM |
#7 |
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Save the scary ghost-boobs for Spring Break or Carnivale |
Orrex |
Jun-07-06 11:14 AM |
#8 |
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I've heard of children nursing up to five years |
MadHound |
Jun-07-06 11:14 AM |
#9 |
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A dentist could give you a better opinion |
Clark2008 |
Jun-07-06 11:15 AM |
#10 |
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Good dental hygiene will help keep teeth healthy |
One_of_8 |
Jun-07-06 11:39 AM |
#46 |
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And that's why I suggested a dentist |
Clark2008 |
Jun-07-06 01:43 PM |
#111 |
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posted in wrong place |
FLDem5 |
Jun-07-06 12:04 PM |
#74 |
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I think eventually doctors will go back to saying babies need to be |
Ilsa |
Jun-08-06 04:41 PM |
#192 |
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Agreed. It's the teeth. |
WinTwins |
Jun-08-06 04:24 PM |
#191 |
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In some cultures, women nurse their children until they are around |
Cerridwen |
Jun-07-06 11:15 AM |
#11 |
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Birth control? |
Clark2008 |
Jun-07-06 11:19 AM |
#15 |
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True , True |
Epiphany4z |
Jun-07-06 11:28 AM |
#31 |
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Birth Control? Yes, that's correct. |
Cerridwen |
Jun-07-06 12:04 PM |
#77 |
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Frequent and exclusive breastfeeding prevents ovulation and mensturation |
LeftyMom |
Jun-07-06 04:04 PM |
#131 |
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key phrase -- frequent |
revkat |
Jun-08-06 09:53 AM |
#168 |
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yeah, once they stop feeding more than 4 hours apart during the day or |
LeftyMom |
Jun-08-06 05:06 PM |
#195 |
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Used up to make baby milk? |
kdmorris |
Jun-07-06 04:53 PM |
#146 |
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I always figured it was 'cuz those folks couldn't afford people-food... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-07-06 07:02 PM |
#156 |
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Here is what the American Academy of Pediatrics says: |
deaniac21 |
Jun-07-06 11:16 AM |
#12 |
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And there you have it: |
glitch |
Jun-07-06 11:23 AM |
#24 |
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She actually cited the AAP guidelines |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:45 AM |
#56 |
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Well, I don't really expect he'll apologize. But it would reinforce your |
glitch |
Jun-07-06 02:12 PM |
#114 |
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Thanks! |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:46 AM |
#57 |
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I'd find a new doctor. |
deaniac21 |
Jun-07-06 12:24 PM |
#92 |
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Oh, that's our parting gift to him. |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 01:09 PM |
#104 |
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LOL!!! PERFECT!!! |
Karenina |
Jun-07-06 02:39 PM |
#116 |
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The doctor is full of crap. |
theoldman |
Jun-07-06 11:19 AM |
#16 |
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I'm over 50 and I nurse every chance I get. |
sutz12 |
Jun-07-06 11:20 AM |
#17 |
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I want bitty! |
htuttle |
Jun-07-06 11:20 AM |
#18 |
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Ohmygod! That shit is FUNNY |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:40 AM |
#48 |
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LMAO!!! |
spuddonna |
Jun-07-06 12:25 PM |
#93 |
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So that's how things went when Laura first met Geroge Sr. and Barbara |
ComerPerro |
Jun-08-06 01:23 PM |
#179 |
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Get a new doctor. |
missb |
Jun-07-06 11:22 AM |
#22 |
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New doc in order - we switched pediatricians when he wanted me |
mtnester |
Jun-07-06 11:23 AM |
#25 |
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Good Lord, that is wrong on SO many levels! |
MorningGlow |
Jun-07-06 11:23 AM |
#26 |
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I believe you have to change doctors. I nursed both of my sons. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-06 11:25 AM |
#27 |
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Most of it's for comfort at this point... |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:31 AM |
#37 |
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She still has time. Also, I think you will notice, once she starts to |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-06 11:45 AM |
#55 |
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Crackpot sexist phobic geezer doctor. Tell her to keep nursing! |
Dora |
Jun-07-06 11:30 AM |
#33 |
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Report that doctor too |
One_of_8 |
Jun-07-06 11:31 AM |
#34 |
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He's crazy as a bat. |
Sequoia |
Jun-07-06 11:31 AM |
#36 |
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Find a new doctor |
gollygee |
Jun-07-06 11:32 AM |
#38 |
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I once knew a woman who still nursed her kid and he was around 5 y.o. |
all_hail_gwb |
Jun-07-06 11:33 AM |
#39 |
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Stop when they get teeth! |
noonwitch |
Jun-07-06 11:33 AM |
#40 |
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when the kid can stand up and nurse.... |
ileus |
Jun-07-06 11:35 AM |
#44 |
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Get a new Doctor |
benddem |
Jun-07-06 11:35 AM |
#45 |
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the cultural differences on breast feeding vary so much |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-07-06 11:40 AM |
#47 |
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Does she Dr. Frist???????? |
Master Mahon |
Jun-07-06 11:40 AM |
#49 |
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Nursing til baby stops |
islandspirit |
Jun-07-06 11:42 AM |
#52 |
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That's exactly how it was with my sons |
LizW |
Jun-07-06 04:31 PM |
#141 |
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A Mother knows when its time.... |
misternormal |
Jun-07-06 11:43 AM |
#53 |
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And no need to heat it. It comes out at the perfect temperature. |
Mandate My Ass |
Jun-07-06 11:49 AM |
#62 |
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LOL! |
spuddonna |
Jun-07-06 12:15 PM |
#86 |
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I have a friend whose cat woke her up in the middle of the night... |
mycritters2 |
Jun-07-06 12:28 PM |
#94 |
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There's no one correct length of time to nurse. |
SheilaT |
Jun-07-06 11:47 AM |
#60 |
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Those new teeth HURT - YOUCH |
debbierlus |
Jun-07-06 12:03 PM |
#73 |
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Good grief yes... |
spuddonna |
Jun-07-06 12:19 PM |
#89 |
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Change doctors immediately ---- I am very serious, my daughter is now 4 |
Nimrod2005 |
Jun-07-06 11:49 AM |
#61 |
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There you have it! |
sutz12 |
Jun-07-06 11:54 AM |
#65 |
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We see similar traits in Li'l Rucky |
rucky |
Jun-07-06 11:56 AM |
#68 |
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I am telling you, it works...Fire the doctor, keep breast feeding her. |
Nimrod2005 |
Jun-07-06 12:04 PM |
#75 |
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Sounds like the description of my daughter to a T (2nd grade) |
Notoverit |
Jun-08-06 11:57 AM |
#170 |
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This doctor is a fossil and should be reported. |
hunter |
Jun-07-06 11:55 AM |
#66 |
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Having nursed 3 kids |
laundry_queen |
Jun-07-06 11:55 AM |
#67 |
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I nursed my daughter until she was two |
debbierlus |
Jun-07-06 12:00 PM |
#70 |
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Find another doctor |
spinbaby |
Jun-07-06 12:01 PM |
#71 |
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Ive known several people who still occasionally breastfed their toddlers |
BeTheChange |
Jun-07-06 12:03 PM |
#72 |
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Ditto on the "find a new doctor" posts |
Momgonepostal |
Jun-07-06 12:04 PM |
#76 |
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That's a new one, and kinda freaky... |
spuddonna |
Jun-07-06 12:05 PM |
#78 |
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Definately time for a new doctor |
LibertyLover |
Jun-07-06 12:06 PM |
#79 |
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Report the doctor |
miss_american_pie |
Jun-07-06 12:07 PM |
#80 |
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I am a former La Leche League Leader: My input: |
FLDem5 |
Jun-07-06 12:07 PM |
#81 |
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THAT's where I heard that!! |
flygal |
Jun-07-06 12:46 PM |
#102 |
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Oh brother! |
ocd liberal |
Jun-07-06 12:07 PM |
#82 |
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How about my (European) Doctor's response?..... |
DemExpat |
Jun-07-06 12:10 PM |
#83 |
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Short answer - Do whatever you feel comfortable with |
dr.strangelove |
Jun-07-06 12:13 PM |
#84 |
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I didn't nurse my kids..but isn't it up to Mrs. Rucky and little Miss |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Jun-07-06 12:14 PM |
#85 |
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Ignore that quack. |
July |
Jun-07-06 12:18 PM |
#87 |
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My son just turned 16 months |
DesertedRose |
Jun-07-06 12:20 PM |
#90 |
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You know what is right for your child |
earthmama |
Jun-07-06 12:22 PM |
#91 |
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uhhh...I seem to recall reading somewhere that breast-feeding up to like 2 |
anarch |
Jun-07-06 12:32 PM |
#96 |
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LOL!! n/t |
mycritters2 |
Jun-07-06 12:35 PM |
#98 |
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I have a parishioner who's nursing her 3 year old |
mycritters2 |
Jun-07-06 12:34 PM |
#97 |
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OH! and a good comeback for you that I have used successfully: |
FLDem5 |
Jun-07-06 12:38 PM |
#99 |
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I had a similar experience |
titoresque |
Jun-07-06 12:39 PM |
#100 |
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Making your boobs scary, that's real sane!!! |
sandnsea |
Jun-07-06 12:41 PM |
#101 |
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That's great!! LOL!! |
mycritters2 |
Jun-07-06 01:24 PM |
#107 |
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The solution for your problem is |
FlaGranny |
Jun-07-06 01:02 PM |
#103 |
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I'm not a parent and never have been so I don't have any idea |
Sentinel Chicken |
Jun-07-06 01:24 PM |
#106 |
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That depends on how you define incest and pedophilia, I guess. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Jun-07-06 02:14 PM |
#115 |
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Not sure I get what pedophilia and/or incest have to do with this. n/t |
Finder |
Jun-07-06 03:19 PM |
#119 |
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Breasts have a sexual connotation, right? |
porphyrian |
Jun-07-06 03:34 PM |
#120 |
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Breasts are for feeding not fondling... |
Finder |
Jun-07-06 03:56 PM |
#125 |
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Physiologically, that's only partly true. |
porphyrian |
Jun-07-06 04:00 PM |
#127 |
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Well rubbing the heels of some people works too.... |
Finder |
Jun-07-06 04:06 PM |
#132 |
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Sweeping generalizion, inherently false. |
porphyrian |
Jun-08-06 12:57 PM |
#175 |
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You are woefully misinformed. n/t |
laundry_queen |
Jun-08-06 02:51 PM |
#185 |
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As are you, apparently. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Jun-08-06 05:53 PM |
#201 |
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You can't be serious. |
laundry_queen |
Jun-07-06 05:09 PM |
#148 |
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Yeah and when I was lactating |
gollygee |
Jun-07-06 06:59 PM |
#155 |
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I meant everything I said. You're reading too much into it. |
porphyrian |
Jun-08-06 12:55 PM |
#174 |
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And again... |
laundry_queen |
Jun-08-06 02:50 PM |
#184 |
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Hello...there are plenty of sick people in the world. |
porphyrian |
Jun-08-06 05:53 PM |
#200 |
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Only because the same hormone is used |
gollygee |
Jun-07-06 06:58 PM |
#154 |
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I didn't say breastfeeding is necessarily sexual... |
porphyrian |
Jun-08-06 12:53 PM |
#173 |
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HUH? |
gollygee |
Jun-07-06 06:56 PM |
#153 |
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Forgive Me For Saying You Have Some Serious Issues. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-07-06 04:10 PM |
#134 |
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I think you're right |
qanda |
Jun-07-06 04:16 PM |
#136 |
| -
In my profession |
Rebel_with_a_cause |
Jun-07-06 02:40 PM |
#117 |
| -
I know of one up to 8... |
Finder |
Jun-07-06 04:01 PM |
#129 |
| -
Personally, |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-07-06 02:41 PM |
#118 |
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I don't think it's anyone's business as long as everyone |
Cleita |
Jun-07-06 03:44 PM |
#121 |
| -
Here is what I tell new moms and it applys to a variety of |
carolinalady |
Jun-07-06 03:44 PM |
#122 |
| -
As a non-Mom, I'm not qualified to answer..... |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-07-06 03:45 PM |
#123 |
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The WHO reccomends nursing until at least two. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-07-06 03:59 PM |
#126 |
| -
As it was best said on the show "Sex and the City" |
LynneSin |
Jun-07-06 04:00 PM |
#128 |
| -
I also go to Sarah Jessica Parker for medical advice |
MUSTANG_2004 |
Jun-08-06 09:09 AM |
#165 |
| -
There Is No Definitive Guideline Other Than When It No Longer Suits Your |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-07-06 04:07 PM |
#133 |
| -
I would get a new doctor yesterday |
qanda |
Jun-07-06 04:14 PM |
#135 |
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I figure when they pull up your shirt and say "Momma, give me some titty" |
Love Bug |
Jun-07-06 04:23 PM |
#138 |
| -
human babies are supposed to nurse up til 4/5 yrs or longer |
savemefromdumbya |
Jun-07-06 04:24 PM |
#139 |
| -
Extended nursing has scientific basis |
MUSTANG_2004 |
Jun-08-06 08:49 AM |
#163 |
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Most mothers stop nursing around nine months if not sooner, however, |
1monster |
Jun-07-06 04:34 PM |
#142 |
| -
"Terrible twos" - another myth constructed by "specialists" |
Notoverit |
Jun-08-06 08:37 AM |
#162 |
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Actually, I agree with you. However, the so-called terrible twos |
1monster |
Jun-08-06 09:24 PM |
#210 |
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as long as it's mutual long as you all want nt |
recoveringrepublican |
Jun-07-06 04:36 PM |
#143 |
| -
Get a real doctor. |
BlueIris |
Jun-07-06 04:39 PM |
#144 |
| -
Depends on the child |
kdmorris |
Jun-07-06 04:59 PM |
#147 |
| -
Holy shit. That doctor is an asshole. 1 1/2 years is NOT too long |
Nay |
Jun-07-06 05:18 PM |
#149 |
| -
Mail that so-called doctor this book |
fortyfeetunder |
Jun-07-06 09:38 PM |
#158 |
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Answer: when mother and child decide - together |
robbedvoter |
Jun-08-06 08:16 AM |
#160 |
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Your baby will let you know when to stop |
hedgehog |
Jun-08-06 09:03 AM |
#164 |
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When you get teef, I tink you too big a eat. |
lonestarnot |
Jun-08-06 09:13 AM |
#166 |
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I have a friend who is originally from China. |
xmas74 |
Jun-08-06 09:17 AM |
#167 |
| -
My father |
laundry_queen |
Jun-08-06 02:56 PM |
#186 |
| -
It is improving. |
xmas74 |
Jun-08-06 03:33 PM |
#187 |
| -
Until the kid is done or starts biting. |
politicat |
Jun-08-06 12:18 PM |
#171 |
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Biting is usually easy to overcome, but occasionally |
Ilsa |
Jun-08-06 03:56 PM |
#190 |
| -
Rucky, is this doc a pediatrician or a family practitioner? MD or DO? |
kath |
Jun-08-06 12:29 PM |
#172 |
| -
Jesus Christ. That doctor should turn in his license. |
Oregonian |
Jun-08-06 01:17 PM |
#178 |
| -
I'm jealous of ALL OF YOU! |
phylny |
Jun-08-06 05:39 PM |
#197 |
| -
I've heard many people say their babies weaned themselves. |
Oregonian |
Jun-09-06 10:33 AM |
#213 |
| -
Do Not listen to the Doctor |
bcoylepa |
Jun-08-06 02:19 PM |
#181 |
| -
My grandmother (born 1893) told my sister... |
Chemical Bill |
Jun-08-06 02:38 PM |
#182 |
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All of our kids self-weened around 2-1/2. |
Vickers |
Jun-08-06 02:39 PM |
#183 |
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The doc is ill-informed and a moron and probably is mysogynistic. |
Ilsa |
Jun-08-06 03:53 PM |
#189 |
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It is absolutely appropriate to stop nursing |
phylny |
Jun-08-06 04:56 PM |
#193 |
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That Doctor's response was highly inappropriate, but I would say stop |
Canadiana |
Jun-08-06 05:20 PM |
#196 |
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More energetically costly? |
laundry_queen |
Jun-08-06 05:49 PM |
#199 |
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Never. |
BlackVelvet04 |
Jun-08-06 05:43 PM |
#198 |
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Long before college.. ;) |
lostnfound |
Jun-08-06 07:23 PM |
#205 |
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Good Lord, this guy is a quack!! |
DesertRat |
Jun-08-06 07:31 PM |
#206 |
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If she's able, the mother should be able to nurse into her sixties... |
nathan hale |
Jun-08-06 07:39 PM |
#207 |
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We met this woman at a parenting class some years ago.... |
maveric |
Jun-08-06 07:43 PM |
#208 |
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I stopped when my son was 16 mos |
proud patriot |
Jun-08-06 07:55 PM |
#209 |
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OK, I don't mean any offense, but why would any spouse... |
Solon |
Jun-08-06 09:42 PM |
#211 |
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