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Mon Jun-05-06 08:15 AM
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| 16. The problem with Long Beach, CA |
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Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 08:23 AM by Juniperx
And many So Cal cities, is that there are very posh areas butted up against the working class areas you speak of; Long Beach is a perfect example. You have Naples Island, Belmont Shore, Belmont Heights, Bluff Park, and other areas, that have multi-million dollar homes with an ocean view. There is a lot of very, very expensive housing. The "not even a really nice town" parts are butted up against the posh neighborhoods. The same goes for Lomita, the city I where I was raised, 12 miles from Long Beach.
I bought a townhouse in Lakewood, northern neighbor to Long Beach, thinking I'd be able to eventually move back to Lomita or one of the nicer parts of Long Beach. Town homes in my complex are now going for $400k! Jeez! I wouldn't even be able to buy in my own complex now! And I don't have enough equity to move up. And if I sold, I'd end up paying more in rent than I do in mortgage payments.
Welcome to the housing bubble you've heard so much about.
And say buh-bye to the middle class.
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Yollam |
Jun-05-06 01:29 AM |
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I moved back into my mother's house because... |
haruka3_2000 |
Jun-05-06 01:37 AM |
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I was super-lucky with my last apartment in San Francisco. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 01:41 AM |
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In my previous apt, I had corporate-type asshole landlords. |
haruka3_2000 |
Jun-05-06 01:54 AM |
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I heard a caller on CSPAN, asking if her 30 year old daughter |
Erika |
Jun-05-06 01:44 AM |
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Yeah, I'm 23 and it kind of sucked moving back. |
haruka3_2000 |
Jun-05-06 01:53 AM |
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re your last paragraph |
StellaBlue |
Jun-05-06 02:06 AM |
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i'm in that same boat as well |
Blue_Tires |
Jun-05-06 06:21 PM |
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Why not move to a more affordable area of the country? If you're single |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 04:11 AM |
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Yeah, poor people should pack up and leave CA for the rich. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 05:03 AM |
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Condos in a converted school down the street from me START in the mid 200s |
debbierlus |
Jun-05-06 05:39 PM |
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Seriously, I wish you'd answer my post. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 07:58 AM |
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Of course this isn't how it SHOULD be, |
MadHound |
Jun-05-06 08:27 AM |
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Actually, without foreign immigration, California would be shrinking. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 08:32 AM |
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Speculatore are indeed the bain of this current housing bubble |
MadHound |
Jun-05-06 08:46 AM |
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Prop 13 exacerbates the problem terribly and should be repealed. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 09:00 AM |
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100% in agreement. MN has a property tax refund which refunds |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 03:28 PM |
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Speculation started in the 1980s under Guess Who |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-05-06 09:07 PM |
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I'm a native Californian; my g-g-grandparents were pioneers... |
SmokingJacket |
Jun-05-06 11:28 AM |
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I've got to agree with this. If you choose to live in an region where a |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 03:14 PM |
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It is my feeling as well, what you say |
sweetheart |
Jun-05-06 04:13 PM |
#58 |
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It's not just sun and good weather. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 06:14 PM |
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well, that "intangible something" seems to work for some, but I prefer |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 09:10 PM |
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40% or more of Americans don't own their homes... |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 09:21 PM |
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73.8% home ownership in the west; median home value $151,000. |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 09:51 PM |
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And a lot of people have taken their CA equity and bought palaces in BFE. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 10:06 PM |
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The question is, why, in one of the most liberal state in the nation, are |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 10:12 PM |
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Social liberal, but rabidly anti-tax... |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 10:22 PM |
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Municipalities can provide support for affordable housing with bonds. |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 11:21 PM |
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Dupe post |
huskerlaw |
Jun-05-06 10:35 PM |
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Move to a place where you can afford it... |
huskerlaw |
Jun-05-06 10:35 PM |
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Yes. If the alternatives are being homeless or moving to somewhere |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 11:36 PM |
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I've had to move for the reverse reason: Houses were cheap, but |
lectrobyte |
Jun-05-06 08:51 AM |
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I don't believe I said anything about moving to Egypt. This is, however |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 03:41 PM |
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bumfuck egypt is slang for the country. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 06:18 PM |
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See msg #73 for what you could get for $700 in chicago. Never heard |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 08:32 PM |
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Oh, I know Chicago is cheaper, but it's still overpriced... |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 08:54 PM |
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Have you actually compared median salaries? the salary disparity |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 09:00 PM |
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I think "bumfuckin' egypt" is a West Coast expression |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-05-06 09:09 PM |
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I have lived all over the country... |
mike_c |
Jun-06-06 10:18 AM |
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It would be nice if the cost of living were less |
One_of_8 |
Jun-05-06 03:51 PM |
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What a STUPID response! |
devilgrrl |
Jun-05-06 08:21 AM |
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Not stupid at all, I know exactly what he/she means. |
Sequoia |
Jun-05-06 03:48 PM |
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Why do you consider that stupid? |
One_of_8 |
Jun-05-06 04:00 PM |
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Jobs are a huge issue |
MountainLaurel |
Jun-05-06 08:23 AM |
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There are a lot of major cities outside of California |
MadHound |
Jun-05-06 08:56 AM |
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I wasn't just speaking of CA |
MountainLaurel |
Jun-05-06 09:06 AM |
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In my last survey, i found the best vibes |
sweetheart |
Jun-05-06 04:00 PM |
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Im looking at Atlanta... |
liberaliraqvet26 |
Jun-05-06 05:40 PM |
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CA, quite frankly, is NOT a great place to live; it's the worst place I've |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 03:21 PM |
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Some people CAN'T move... |
tinrobot |
Jun-05-06 03:57 PM |
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I agree. I did say "If you're single and young..." But if a family cannot |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 04:05 PM |
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Images of the 'Grapes of Wrath" |
me b zola |
Jun-05-06 10:44 PM |
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Well, right now I'm trying to just save up money. |
haruka3_2000 |
Jun-05-06 08:08 PM |
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Something SERIOUSLY wrong... |
debbierlus |
Jun-05-06 05:41 PM |
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If it didn't involve my mother then it would be great. |
haruka3_2000 |
Jun-05-06 08:16 PM |
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But it's a boom! |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 01:54 AM |
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Yeah, it's such a boom that most of my friends between 22 & 30 have |
haruka3_2000 |
Jun-05-06 01:59 AM |
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Corporations even more so. |
HypnoToad |
Jun-05-06 07:31 AM |
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Wow!!! Landlord and psychologist in one! |
KansDem |
Jun-05-06 09:28 AM |
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a thought... |
undergroundpanther |
Jun-05-06 02:09 AM |
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when we kids were little (in the 40s), we owned our house but many |
bobbieinok |
Jun-07-06 01:25 AM |
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i live in hawthorne |
barbtries |
Jun-05-06 02:12 AM |
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check landlord tenant law |
NJCher |
Jun-05-06 07:27 AM |
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Few such protections in CA. A lease protects you for the term of |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 03:53 PM |
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The problem with Long Beach, CA |
Juniperx |
Jun-05-06 08:15 AM |
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She couldn't find another place for $900 a month? |
ThomWV |
Jun-05-06 08:17 AM |
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My Rent Is Under $1K in Silicon Valley |
REP |
Jun-05-06 08:27 AM |
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Everything within 200 miles of the ocean, pretty much. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 08:34 AM |
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Not Really. |
REP |
Jun-05-06 09:16 AM |
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Maybe a studio - MAYBE. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 09:24 AM |
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I'm Not in The City |
REP |
Jun-05-06 09:29 AM |
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Displacing the working class |
sweetheart |
Jun-05-06 08:54 AM |
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Catch 23 |
catmandu57 |
Jun-05-06 09:11 AM |
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22 nt |
Javaman |
Jun-05-06 10:16 AM |
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No this is 23 |
catmandu57 |
Jun-05-06 11:09 AM |
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ahhhh, I stand corrected. nt |
Javaman |
Jun-05-06 11:23 AM |
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$1200 a month |
shanti |
Jun-05-06 11:01 AM |
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Maybe that USED to be a mortgage in Sac, but not now |
Momgonepostal |
Jun-05-06 11:18 AM |
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umm, not really |
shanti |
Jun-05-06 11:29 AM |
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I live in a so-so condo complex and don't think... |
Momgonepostal |
Jun-05-06 05:20 PM |
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Same Here in Boston |
stepnw1f |
Jun-05-06 03:34 PM |
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That's almost funny |
Jim Warren |
Jun-05-06 06:29 PM |
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What kind of country? Well it's bush country of course! |
SunDrop23 |
Jun-05-06 11:20 AM |
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Can't Afford to Live on my Own |
stepnw1f |
Jun-05-06 03:32 PM |
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In So. Cal, most home owners want housing prices to stay high - |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 03:36 PM |
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Wrong, wrong, and oh look, wrong! |
tjwash |
Jun-05-06 06:30 PM |
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What did I say that is wrong? Without a doubt, CA is one of the least |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 08:56 PM |
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we've been good landlords in chicago- |
QuestionAll |
Jun-05-06 03:54 PM |
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My rent in DC just went up 10%. Last year it was 5%. |
Glimmer of Hope |
Jun-05-06 05:25 PM |
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Same problem here in West Palm Beach FLA... |
liberaliraqvet26 |
Jun-05-06 05:35 PM |
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And for those who don't know WPB... |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 06:25 PM |
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Hang on, Sloopy hang on... |
SoCalDem |
Jun-05-06 05:35 PM |
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The rent in Cali is outrageous, you can own a home for less than 1200 in |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jun-05-06 05:37 PM |
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I went on a trip through GA in 2003... |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 06:30 PM |
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You should see I-70 between Kansas City and Columbia |
pstokely |
Jun-06-06 03:49 AM |
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It is completely unsustainable |
debbierlus |
Jun-05-06 05:38 PM |
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I made the decision between housing & a reasonbly acceptable lifestyle... |
chaska |
Jun-05-06 07:12 PM |
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LB - not a nice town? Much of it is quite nice, thank you very much |
ourbluenation |
Jun-05-06 08:16 PM |
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Heartbreaking and infuriating - but "not even a really nice town" ? |
bertha katzenengel |
Jun-05-06 08:18 PM |
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Hey Bertha - my hubby went to Marina...class of 76. |
ourbluenation |
Jun-05-06 08:28 PM |
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Dig it! Edison '81 here. |
bertha katzenengel |
Jun-05-06 08:59 PM |
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81 myself - St. Joes/St. John Bosco and a little Golden West to boot! |
ourbluenation |
Jun-05-06 09:03 PM |
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When I stayed there in a few weeks in 1991.... |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 08:57 PM |
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Long Beach, like many large cities, has bad areas. Obviously you were in |
bertha katzenengel |
Jun-05-06 09:01 PM |
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Uh - sounds like you missed the nice part... |
ourbluenation |
Jun-05-06 09:03 PM |
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No doubt there are nice pockets... |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 09:12 PM |
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"No way I could live in LA or one of its 'burbs." -- so why diss it? |
bertha katzenengel |
Jun-05-06 09:26 PM |
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Repeal Prop.13 for starters. |
Yollam |
Jun-05-06 09:35 PM |
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That would be an excellent start. Problem is, it'll never happen. |
bertha katzenengel |
Jun-05-06 09:58 PM |
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Wow. That must make for tense relations with your father. My sympathy. |
lindisfarne |
Jun-07-06 12:01 AM |
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As the world's 6th largest economy it's a tragedy all our citizens aren't |
catzies |
Jun-05-06 08:43 PM |
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I have one son living with me. |
LWolf |
Jun-05-06 09:04 PM |
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CA is one of the most liberal states in the nation. Why aren't the |
lindisfarne |
Jun-05-06 11:46 PM |
#108 |
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California really isn't all that liberal. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-06 02:52 AM |
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I know what you mean about Prop. 82 not passing - it's not even close. |
lindisfarne |
Jun-07-06 03:01 AM |
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