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Mon Jun-05-06 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #129 |
| 130. ok, play your game for a few minutes, then off to bed. Do you believe |
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that people have equal opportunities here? Do you believe what you wrote in #30...
#30 You're also free to work at the profession of your choice, attend the schools of your choice, be with the partner of your choice, attend orgies, or spend a weekend praising Jesus. You can rent an apartment without state approval (don't try this in Sweden), buy a car for fun, or start a newspaper claiming the government created 9-11.
Do we have these equalities here in the USA? Do all of us have these freedoms? Are these freedoms equal for all, or just for a select few, as you seem to be saying that they are for all.
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| -I am sad and worried about being an American. |
babylonsister |
Jun-04-06 10:32 PM |
#0 |
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Two solutions to your dilemma: |
MercutioATC |
Jun-04-06 10:36 PM |
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Actually, I have pulled the Canadian. But just as frequently |
babylonsister |
Jun-04-06 10:44 PM |
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A few years back I met foreigners who said they knew it was our gov. |
PuraVidaDreamin |
Jun-04-06 10:42 PM |
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I will never be ashamed to be American |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 10:44 PM |
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Yeah. Sure. NT |
Benhurst |
Jun-04-06 10:47 PM |
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You equate this admin with morality; I beg to differ. Show me |
babylonsister |
Jun-04-06 10:48 PM |
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I didn't equate this admin to morality |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 10:49 PM |
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they have proved to show us |
alyce douglas |
Jun-05-06 10:26 AM |
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Let's try this again. Deeper claim to morality? The US under |
babylonsister |
Jun-04-06 11:00 PM |
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I am speaking historically |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:02 PM |
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He is RUINING our nation! Please understand that! |
babylonsister |
Jun-04-06 11:14 PM |
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I wouldn't go that far |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:21 PM |
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"KIND OF embarrassing"???? "KIND OF"??????? |
kestrel91316 |
Jun-05-06 12:39 AM |
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KIND OF EMBARRASSING????(*&^%$#@#$%^&& OMG! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-05-06 10:33 AM |
#138 |
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Trail of Tears, Japanese internment camps, |
adigal |
Jun-05-06 12:48 PM |
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plus he is not open to open dialogue with other nations |
alyce douglas |
Jun-05-06 10:29 AM |
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What?? |
TomInTib |
Jun-04-06 11:15 PM |
#14 |
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Oh, please |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:25 PM |
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Oh, I have been paying attention all right. |
TomInTib |
Jun-04-06 11:48 PM |
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The Soviet Union, for one |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:54 PM |
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But they were killing their own people. |
TomInTib |
Jun-05-06 12:03 AM |
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The Afghans weren't Russian, though |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:07 AM |
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First things first.. |
TomInTib |
Jun-05-06 12:22 AM |
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Hindsight is 20/20 |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:25 AM |
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I'm sure more than a few Chileans and Nicaraguans and Salvadorans disagre |
Selatius |
Jun-05-06 12:38 AM |
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The US has always been involved in some sort of underhandness. |
alyce douglas |
Jun-05-06 10:32 AM |
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my friend, you don't know much about history... |
mike_c |
Jun-04-06 11:40 PM |
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Little puny atrocities |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:47 PM |
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Dunno if I'd include the Panama Canal |
charlie |
Jun-04-06 11:52 PM |
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And the world got an incredible tool... |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:55 PM |
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Well, I'll grab your car |
charlie |
Jun-05-06 12:03 AM |
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Panama is thrilled to have the Canal |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:08 AM |
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And Colombia would've been thrilled |
charlie |
Jun-05-06 12:12 AM |
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It's an imperfect world |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:17 AM |
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Can the "move to XX" talk |
charlie |
Jun-05-06 12:27 AM |
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Says you. I disagree. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:28 AM |
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Thought so |
charlie |
Jun-05-06 12:36 AM |
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I was speaking of when we gave away the Canal. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:40 AM |
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Pshaw |
charlie |
Jun-05-06 12:50 AM |
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You're right, I should have been more clear |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:53 AM |
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We helped foment insurrection |
charlie |
Jun-05-06 12:59 AM |
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Well, the job was started. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:04 AM |
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Aiyiyi |
charlie |
Jun-05-06 01:14 AM |
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40,000 dead Iraqis are for protection or advancement? |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:44 AM |
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I'm not going to defend the Iraq War. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:49 AM |
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Iraq question was in response to your post #41, requoted here |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:54 AM |
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I do accept Iraq as a mistake... |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:58 AM |
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No, you say the Iraq invasion/occupation was an investment, a toe stubbing |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:01 AM |
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Who are you, F. Lee Baily? |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:03 AM |
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no, I am merely quoting cigsandcoffee post #42 |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:09 AM |
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Your making a show out of this... performing, even |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:14 AM |
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I ask you a question, using one of your quotes, you refuse to answer |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:18 AM |
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'little puny atrocities"? 800,000 in Rwanda is puny? |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:38 AM |
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We killed 800,00 in Rwanda? |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:41 AM |
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We failed to stop them and responsibilty should fall more on USA |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:47 AM |
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Personally, I put the vast majority of the blame |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:59 AM |
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And secondly on the people who could have stopped it but didn't. |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:03 AM |
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Yes, secondly. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:06 AM |
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Our aid would have prevented much loss of life if done SOON ENOUGH |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:11 AM |
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We gave aid |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:15 AM |
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Not if they go in soon enough. |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:21 AM |
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30,000 civilians in Nicaragua are "puny"? |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:39 AM |
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Yes, but on the other hand our country began with Manifest Destiny... |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 12:22 AM |
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Well, those were the times |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:27 AM |
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"Moderated?" What about the millions of dead people in SE Asia? |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 12:44 AM |
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Fine. If that's what you believe, then have at it. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:51 AM |
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so you believe that the USA has moderated? |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:59 AM |
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No, I think he's over the top |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:01 AM |
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So you don't believe in the corporate fascist state of the USA? |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:07 AM |
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No, I don't believe in the corporate facsist stae of the USA. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:11 AM |
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So the opposite of fascism is total equality? |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:17 AM |
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No, I was responding to your words |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:20 AM |
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did the pilgrims have slaves? |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:23 AM |
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Are those your words about equality? |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:24 AM |
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no, you said the usa has moderated since we have no slaves today. |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:25 AM |
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So those aren't your words about equality? |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:26 AM |
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What are you talking about? You started with the equality stuff here |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:30 AM |
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Actually, no. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:34 AM |
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toe stubbing, little puny atrocities, f.lee.bailey, moderated since coloni |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:44 AM |
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Are you going to address your retraction of the equality standard? |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:46 AM |
#129 |
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ok, play your game for a few minutes, then off to bed. Do you believe |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:53 AM |
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No, I don't think so. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 02:20 AM |
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I am ineptly asking you to clarify what you have written. |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 03:07 PM |
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Ok, but that sounds like "good German" rhetoric to me |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 01:18 AM |
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"Ridiculous? Over the top?" I saw it here in New Orleans |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 01:12 AM |
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*AHEM* Hello! NOLA??? Katrina VICTIMS???&^%$# n/t |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-05-06 10:37 AM |
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But your statements come off as arrogant and NOT grounded in reality. |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 01:01 AM |
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"I'm not so arrogant as to believe |
Dem2theMax |
Jun-05-06 01:02 AM |
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"powerful nations" is an interesting qualification. |
Protagoras |
Jun-05-06 12:56 PM |
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Really? |
Webster Green |
Jun-04-06 11:03 PM |
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Nobody is claiming perfection here |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:05 PM |
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And a lot better... |
Webster Green |
Jun-04-06 11:26 PM |
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HOW? Riddle me this, my cigsandcoffee friend. How could it |
babylonsister |
Jun-04-06 11:46 PM |
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You're free to disparage the government here |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:51 PM |
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Hah! Yeah, right. Be with the partner of your choice when your |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-06 12:17 AM |
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Gays can't get married. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:20 AM |
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Gays 'could' get married if the asshat in charge had a spine! |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-06 12:26 AM |
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Where the hell have I said I support this admin? |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:34 AM |
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you do realize that in many other countries gay is ok? |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:27 AM |
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Gay is OK here too |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:33 AM |
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Loads more hiding, loads getting beaten down for openness |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:35 AM |
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Answers |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:34 AM |
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Well, where do you think you'd have it better? |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:46 AM |
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You do realize that OP says is afraid, and you brought up the pride |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 12:52 AM |
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Well, I'm sorry the OP is scared. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:55 AM |
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I understand where you're coming from... |
Union Thug |
Jun-04-06 11:17 PM |
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Have you lived overseas? |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:27 PM |
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not lived, but traveled extensively. |
Union Thug |
Jun-04-06 11:37 PM |
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Look to Sweden for growing racism and ethnic strife |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-04-06 11:44 PM |
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You are knocking down straw men... |
Union Thug |
Jun-05-06 12:27 AM |
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Of course when you travel you wind up with more informed people |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 12:39 AM |
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A little presumptuous... |
Union Thug |
Jun-05-06 01:22 AM |
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Well, our experiences vary |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:41 AM |
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OK, I can agree with one of your posts, finally. |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 01:22 AM |
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They sure as hell can |
cigsandcoffee |
Jun-05-06 01:42 AM |
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I agree, we Americans are not up to par. |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-06 12:51 AM |
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not enough informed/educated people in the US |
alyce douglas |
Jun-05-06 10:43 AM |
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Egad! A country barely 200 years old holds the world's "morality" title? |
MercutioATC |
Jun-04-06 11:18 PM |
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My Lai, Haditha............."claim to morality" ................... Hm, |
kestrel91316 |
Jun-05-06 12:36 AM |
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You either have an underdeveloped sense of shame or |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-05-06 12:42 AM |
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I'm sorry... |
Blackthorn |
Jun-05-06 12:51 AM |
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Whatever Mr. Clever. People ONLY judge, (with insufficient knowledge, |
Random_Australian |
Jun-05-06 04:53 AM |
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I agree with you, I move to Germany next Monday |
48percenter |
Jun-04-06 10:57 PM |
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You're moving overseas? Is |
babylonsister |
Jun-04-06 11:20 PM |
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I wear the red leaf in S.E. Asia |
upi402 |
Jun-04-06 11:18 PM |
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Whoa |
Truthiness Inspector |
Jun-04-06 11:27 PM |
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I recently returned to Germany from a visit to the states |
Solly Mack |
Jun-05-06 12:08 AM |
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That's because aliens HAVE taken over the USA... |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 12:28 AM |
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LOL...true. It goes well. Du? |
Solly Mack |
Jun-05-06 12:33 AM |
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I got a new roof on my house yesterday! |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 12:50 AM |
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Excellent on the roof! ((((Swamp)))) for keeping your sense of humor |
Solly Mack |
Jun-05-06 12:56 AM |
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Du bist ein Entomologe? |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 01:30 AM |
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Ugh. I feel for ya, Swamp Rat! He's done here by 9 June, a few |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-06 01:08 AM |
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Yaay!!! |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-05-06 01:25 AM |
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Congratulations on your roof, may it hold in place and in peace. |
uppityperson |
Jun-05-06 01:32 AM |
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We're not moving--yet--but are building a place in Panama |
mnhtnbb |
Jun-05-06 12:21 AM |
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Panama is nice |
Truthiness Inspector |
Jun-05-06 12:33 AM |
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Welcome to DU, and I'd love to talk to you about Panama! nt |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-06 01:12 AM |
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Thanks |
Truthiness Inspector |
Jun-05-06 01:22 AM |
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quoth the Raven, NEVERMORE |
Jeffersons Ghost |
Jun-05-06 12:37 AM |
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Australia |
TexasLawyer |
Jun-05-06 12:51 AM |
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As an American living abroad.... |
BooScout |
Jun-05-06 04:41 AM |
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Where I go, there are people who like to blow up |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-06 06:57 AM |
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I hate to break it to you...... |
BooScout |
Jun-05-06 11:03 AM |
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Sigh. I didn't say I stuck maples leaves on anything. I just |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-06 11:08 AM |
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And soccer fans. lol n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-05-06 12:29 PM |
#143 |