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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:34 AM
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57. Answers
I disparage the current administration, but don't put personal information here. I cannot work at the profession of my choice because training costs too much, besides I am the wrong sex, color, age. I can rent an apartment most places around the world, USA doesn't hold any monopoly on this. I cannot buy a car for fun because they cost too damn much, what with insurance, gas, upkeep and the initial cost (want to buy me one?). Most places I could start a news paper claiming the gvt created 9-11, nothing to do with bein gin USA. I cannot marry whom I like, I cannot become even a congressional representative money again and, remember all those orgies in my past).

I cannot travel to many places in the world without fearing, wishing I had a different passport (Cananda perhaps). I cannot get a decent public education because so much time must be spent preparing for those darn tests to prove my school can pass the tests. I cannot get my dental work done without going into debt. I fear for my safety in other countries, esp off this N American continent because so many people hate what this country has done. I fear even here, go to the store wearing a salwar kameez and double check to make sure I left my headscarf in my car so I don't look like a "raghead".
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  -I am sad and worried about being an American. babylonsister  Jun-04-06 10:32 PM   #0 
  - Two solutions to your dilemma:  MercutioATC   Jun-04-06 10:36 PM   #1 
  - Actually, I have pulled the Canadian. But just as frequently  babylonsister   Jun-04-06 10:44 PM   #4 
  - A few years back I met foreigners who said they knew it was our gov.  PuraVidaDreamin   Jun-04-06 10:42 PM   #2 
  - I will never be ashamed to be American  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 10:44 PM   #3 
  - Yeah. Sure. NT  Benhurst   Jun-04-06 10:47 PM   #5 
  - You equate this admin with morality; I beg to differ. Show me  babylonsister   Jun-04-06 10:48 PM   #6 
  - I didn't equate this admin to morality  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 10:49 PM   #7 
  - they have proved to show us  alyce douglas   Jun-05-06 10:26 AM   #135 
  - Let's try this again. Deeper claim to morality? The US under  babylonsister   Jun-04-06 11:00 PM   #9 
  - I am speaking historically  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:02 PM   #10 
     - He is RUINING our nation! Please understand that!  babylonsister   Jun-04-06 11:14 PM   #13 
     - I wouldn't go that far  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:21 PM   #19 
     - "KIND OF embarrassing"???? "KIND OF"???????  kestrel91316   Jun-05-06 12:39 AM   #66 
     - KIND OF EMBARRASSING????(*&^%$#@#$%^&& OMG!  in_cog_ni_to   Jun-05-06 10:33 AM   #138 
     - Trail of Tears, Japanese internment camps,  adigal   Jun-05-06 12:48 PM   #144 
     - plus he is not open to open dialogue with other nations  alyce douglas   Jun-05-06 10:29 AM   #136 
     - What??  TomInTib   Jun-04-06 11:15 PM   #14 
     - Oh, please  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:25 PM   #20 
        - Oh, I have been paying attention all right.  TomInTib   Jun-04-06 11:48 PM   #29 
           - The Soviet Union, for one  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:54 PM   #32 
           - But they were killing their own people.  TomInTib   Jun-05-06 12:03 AM   #34 
           - The Afghans weren't Russian, though  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:07 AM   #36 
              - First things first..  TomInTib   Jun-05-06 12:22 AM   #44 
                 - Hindsight is 20/20  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:25 AM   #46 
           - I'm sure more than a few Chileans and Nicaraguans and Salvadorans disagre  Selatius   Jun-05-06 12:38 AM   #63 
           - The US has always been involved in some sort of underhandness.  alyce douglas   Jun-05-06 10:32 AM   #137 
     - my friend, you don't know much about history...  mike_c   Jun-04-06 11:40 PM   #25 
     - Little puny atrocities  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:47 PM   #28 
        - Dunno if I'd include the Panama Canal  charlie   Jun-04-06 11:52 PM   #31 
        - And the world got an incredible tool...  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:55 PM   #33 
           - Well, I'll grab your car  charlie   Jun-05-06 12:03 AM   #35 
              - Panama is thrilled to have the Canal  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:08 AM   #37 
                 - And Colombia would've been thrilled  charlie   Jun-05-06 12:12 AM   #39 
                    - It's an imperfect world  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:17 AM   #41 
                       - Can the "move to XX" talk  charlie   Jun-05-06 12:27 AM   #51 
                       - Says you. I disagree.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:28 AM   #53 
                          - Thought so  charlie   Jun-05-06 12:36 AM   #60 
                             - I was speaking of when we gave away the Canal.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:40 AM   #68 
                                - Pshaw  charlie   Jun-05-06 12:50 AM   #76 
                                   - You're right, I should have been more clear  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:53 AM   #83 
                                      - We helped foment insurrection  charlie   Jun-05-06 12:59 AM   #90 
                                         - Well, the job was started.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:04 AM   #97 
                                         - Aiyiyi  charlie   Jun-05-06 01:14 AM   #107 
                       - 40,000 dead Iraqis are for protection or advancement?  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:44 AM   #71 
                          - I'm not going to defend the Iraq War.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:49 AM   #75 
                             - Iraq question was in response to your post #41, requoted here  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:54 AM   #84 
                                - I do accept Iraq as a mistake...  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:58 AM   #87 
                                   - No, you say the Iraq invasion/occupation was an investment, a toe stubbing  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:01 AM   #91 
                                      - Who are you, F. Lee Baily?  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:03 AM   #96 
                                         - no, I am merely quoting cigsandcoffee post #42  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:09 AM   #101 
                                            - Your making a show out of this... performing, even  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:14 AM   #106 
                                            - I ask you a question, using one of your quotes, you refuse to answer  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:18 AM   #111 
        - 'little puny atrocities"? 800,000 in Rwanda is puny?  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:38 AM   #64 
        - We killed 800,00 in Rwanda?  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:41 AM   #69 
        - We failed to stop them and responsibilty should fall more on USA  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:47 AM   #74 
           - Personally, I put the vast majority of the blame  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:59 AM   #89 
              - And secondly on the people who could have stopped it but didn't.  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:03 AM   #95 
                 - Yes, secondly.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:06 AM   #98 
                    - Our aid would have prevented much loss of life if done SOON ENOUGH  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:11 AM   #102 
        - We gave aid  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:15 AM   #108 
           - Not if they go in soon enough.  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:21 AM   #113 
        - 30,000 civilians in Nicaragua are "puny"?  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:39 AM   #67 
     - Yes, but on the other hand our country began with Manifest Destiny...  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 12:22 AM   #45 
     - Well, those were the times  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:27 AM   #49 
        - "Moderated?" What about the millions of dead people in SE Asia?  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 12:44 AM   #72 
           - Fine. If that's what you believe, then have at it.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:51 AM   #80 
              - so you believe that the USA has moderated?  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:59 AM   #88 
              - No, I think he's over the top  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:01 AM   #93 
                 - So you don't believe in the corporate fascist state of the USA?  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:07 AM   #99 
                 - No, I don't believe in the corporate facsist stae of the USA.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:11 AM   #103 
                    - So the opposite of fascism is total equality?  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:17 AM   #109 
                    - No, I was responding to your words  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:20 AM   #112 
                       - did the pilgrims have slaves?  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:23 AM   #117 
                          - Are those your words about equality?  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:24 AM   #118 
                             - no, you said the usa has moderated since we have no slaves today.  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:25 AM   #120 
                                - So those aren't your words about equality?  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:26 AM   #121 
                                   - What are you talking about? You started with the equality stuff here  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:30 AM   #123 
                                      - Actually, no.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:34 AM   #125 
                                      - toe stubbing, little puny atrocities, f.lee.bailey, moderated since coloni  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:44 AM   #128 
                                      - Are you going to address your retraction of the equality standard?  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:46 AM   #129 
                                      - ok, play your game for a few minutes, then off to bed. Do you believe  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:53 AM   #130 
                                      - No, I don't think so.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 02:20 AM   #131 
                                      - I am ineptly asking you to clarify what you have written.  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 03:07 PM   #146 
                    - Ok, but that sounds like "good German" rhetoric to me  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 01:18 AM   #110 
                 - "Ridiculous? Over the top?" I saw it here in New Orleans  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 01:12 AM   #105 
                 - *AHEM* Hello! NOLA??? Katrina VICTIMS???&^%$# n/t  in_cog_ni_to   Jun-05-06 10:37 AM   #139 
              - But your statements come off as arrogant and NOT grounded in reality.  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 01:01 AM   #92 
              - "I'm not so arrogant as to believe  Dem2theMax   Jun-05-06 01:02 AM   #94 
     - "powerful nations" is an interesting qualification.  Protagoras   Jun-05-06 12:56 PM   #145 
  - Really?  Webster Green   Jun-04-06 11:03 PM   #11 
  - Nobody is claiming perfection here  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:05 PM   #12 
     - And a lot better...  Webster Green   Jun-04-06 11:26 PM   #21 
     - HOW? Riddle me this, my cigsandcoffee friend. How could it  babylonsister   Jun-04-06 11:46 PM   #27 
        - You're free to disparage the government here  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:51 PM   #30 
           - Hah! Yeah, right. Be with the partner of your choice when your  babylonsister   Jun-05-06 12:17 AM   #40 
           - Gays can't get married.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:20 AM   #42 
              - Gays 'could' get married if the asshat in charge had a spine!  babylonsister   Jun-05-06 12:26 AM   #47 
              - Where the hell have I said I support this admin?  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:34 AM   #58 
              - you do realize that in many other countries gay is ok?  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:27 AM   #48 
                 - Gay is OK here too  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:33 AM   #54 
                    - Loads more hiding, loads getting beaten down for openness  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:35 AM   #59 
           - Answers  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:34 AM   #57 
              - Well, where do you think you'd have it better?  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:46 AM   #73 
                 - You do realize that OP says is afraid, and you brought up the pride  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 12:52 AM   #82 
                    - Well, I'm sorry the OP is scared.  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:55 AM   #85 
  - I understand where you're coming from...  Union Thug   Jun-04-06 11:17 PM   #15 
  - Have you lived overseas?  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:27 PM   #23 
     - not lived, but traveled extensively.  Union Thug   Jun-04-06 11:37 PM   #24 
        - Look to Sweden for growing racism and ethnic strife  cigsandcoffee   Jun-04-06 11:44 PM   #26 
           - You are knocking down straw men...  Union Thug   Jun-05-06 12:27 AM   #50 
              - Of course when you travel you wind up with more informed people  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 12:39 AM   #65 
              - A little presumptuous...  Union Thug   Jun-05-06 01:22 AM   #114 
              - Well, our experiences vary  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:41 AM   #126 
              - OK, I can agree with one of your posts, finally.  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 01:22 AM   #116 
                 - They sure as hell can  cigsandcoffee   Jun-05-06 01:42 AM   #127 
              - I agree, we Americans are not up to par.  babylonsister   Jun-05-06 12:51 AM   #79 
                 - not enough informed/educated people in the US  alyce douglas   Jun-05-06 10:43 AM   #140 
  - Egad! A country barely 200 years old holds the world's "morality" title?  MercutioATC   Jun-04-06 11:18 PM   #17 
  - My Lai, Haditha............."claim to morality" ................... Hm,  kestrel91316   Jun-05-06 12:36 AM   #61 
  - You either have an underdeveloped sense of shame or  sfexpat2000   Jun-05-06 12:42 AM   #70 
  - I'm sorry...  Blackthorn   Jun-05-06 12:51 AM   #78 
  - Whatever Mr. Clever. People ONLY judge, (with insufficient knowledge,  Random_Australian   Jun-05-06 04:53 AM   #133 
  - I agree with you, I move to Germany next Monday  48percenter   Jun-04-06 10:57 PM   #8 
  - You're moving overseas? Is  babylonsister   Jun-04-06 11:20 PM   #18 
  - I wear the red leaf in S.E. Asia  upi402   Jun-04-06 11:18 PM   #16 
  - Whoa  Truthiness Inspector   Jun-04-06 11:27 PM   #22 
  - I recently returned to Germany from a visit to the states  Solly Mack   Jun-05-06 12:08 AM   #38 
  - That's because aliens HAVE taken over the USA...  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 12:28 AM   #52 
     - LOL...true. It goes well. Du?  Solly Mack   Jun-05-06 12:33 AM   #56 
        - I got a new roof on my house yesterday!  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 12:50 AM   #77 
           - Excellent on the roof! ((((Swamp)))) for keeping your sense of humor  Solly Mack   Jun-05-06 12:56 AM   #86 
           - Du bist ein Entomologe?  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 01:30 AM   #122 
           - Ugh. I feel for ya, Swamp Rat! He's done here by 9 June, a few  babylonsister   Jun-05-06 01:08 AM   #100 
           - Yaay!!!  Swamp Rat   Jun-05-06 01:25 AM   #119 
           - Congratulations on your roof, may it hold in place and in peace.  uppityperson   Jun-05-06 01:32 AM   #124 
  - We're not moving--yet--but are building a place in Panama  mnhtnbb   Jun-05-06 12:21 AM   #43 
  - Panama is nice  Truthiness Inspector   Jun-05-06 12:33 AM   #55 
     - Welcome to DU, and I'd love to talk to you about Panama! nt  babylonsister   Jun-05-06 01:12 AM   #104 
        - Thanks  Truthiness Inspector   Jun-05-06 01:22 AM   #115 
  - quoth the Raven, NEVERMORE  Jeffersons Ghost   Jun-05-06 12:37 AM   #62 
  - Australia  TexasLawyer   Jun-05-06 12:51 AM   #81 
  - As an American living abroad....  BooScout   Jun-05-06 04:41 AM   #132 
     - Where I go, there are people who like to blow up  babylonsister   Jun-05-06 06:57 AM   #134 
        - I hate to break it to you......  BooScout   Jun-05-06 11:03 AM   #141 
           - Sigh. I didn't say I stuck maples leaves on anything. I just  babylonsister   Jun-05-06 11:08 AM   #142 
           - And soccer fans. lol n/t  sfexpat2000   Jun-05-06 12:29 PM   #143 

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