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Sat Jun-03-06 10:09 AM
Response to Reply #77 |
| 78. The war is a crime and 95% of our soldiers should not feel any Shame. |
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I seem to be repeating the same thing over and over here.
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| -Why shouldn't the American soldiers in Iraq feel shame at this point? |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 10:22 AM |
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those who weren't delusional to start with |
leftofthedial |
Jun-02-06 10:23 AM |
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I don't know |
bryant69 |
Jun-02-06 10:27 AM |
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we have to stretch our thinking if we don't want to label all the soldiers |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 10:32 AM |
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How so? |
bryant69 |
Jun-02-06 10:37 AM |
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good, you stretched. |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 10:44 AM |
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Personally I'm tired of having to defend rationality. |
bryant69 |
Jun-02-06 10:59 AM |
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Obviously not. |
Raksha |
Jun-02-06 07:39 PM |
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Agreed... |
Koyaanisqatsi |
Jun-02-06 10:29 AM |
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It is group generalization |
treestar |
Jun-02-06 10:47 AM |
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Our forces, collectively, are the danger in Iraq |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 11:03 AM |
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The troops maybe should not be considered responsible any |
treestar |
Jun-02-06 02:51 PM |
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i agree with that |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 04:16 PM |
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whether they are all murderers is not the point.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-06 08:49 PM |
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Indeed. Why shouldn't ALL Americans be ashamed? |
TahitiNut |
Jun-03-06 10:09 AM |
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Why should they? |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 02:56 PM |
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search and destroy missions? |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 04:20 PM |
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Soldiers have to restrict movements... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 05:36 PM |
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I feel shame at what our military is doing collectively in Iraq |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 06:10 PM |
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That is where you and I differ... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 06:15 PM |
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the hospitals have reported civilian casualties from their engagements |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 06:20 PM |
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You know... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 06:27 PM |
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this is the type of rationalization that can only come from Americans |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 06:34 PM |
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When were you in Iraq... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 06:37 PM |
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such a phony defense Scoody Boo |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 06:57 PM |
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Well Fallujah... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 06:59 PM |
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I'd like to see a seperate post on that |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 07:27 PM |
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From what was told to me... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 07:33 PM |
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never mind, just not worth it |
uppityperson |
Jun-03-06 01:47 AM |
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Not what I heard from my army boyfriend, scoody. n/t |
blonndee |
Jun-04-06 01:03 AM |
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You need to stop glorifying war , and the military |
Ksec |
Jun-02-06 06:24 PM |
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A wise country... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 06:30 PM |
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Me saying not to glorify is hardly villification of the troops |
Ksec |
Jun-02-06 06:39 PM |
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no-- a wise country vilifies it's own when they act vilely.... |
mike_c |
Jun-03-06 10:12 AM |
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Yes, but.. |
Xenotime |
Jun-02-06 07:24 PM |
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what are their missions, pray tell...? |
mike_c |
Jun-03-06 10:48 AM |
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UH.....Freedom is on the March !!!!!!!! |
Ragazz68 |
Jun-02-06 04:20 PM |
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If my family member murdered babies , I would be. |
Ksec |
Jun-02-06 06:12 PM |
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Why shouldn't American men (you included) feel shame at this point? |
NightOwwl |
Jun-02-06 06:33 PM |
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I do |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 06:35 PM |
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One of the great tragedies of this war is the lasting psychological |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 06:35 PM |
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No shame or self loathing... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 06:44 PM |
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How sad! I wouldn't call it vain though ~ but it really doesn't matter |
Catrina |
Jun-03-06 02:41 AM |
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funny though, as removed as I am from the conflict |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 06:51 PM |
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Would expecting the same shame... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 06:57 PM |
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Some did feel shame about acts committed in their religon's name |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 07:22 PM |
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Shame as you conceive it isn't a crippling thing. However for |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 07:32 PM |
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I don't think my use of the word 'shame' contributes to their pain |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 07:42 PM |
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Oh there you go again bigtree. |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 07:47 PM |
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you just don't get it, do you...? |
mike_c |
Jun-03-06 12:44 AM |
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You can't be responding to my post, cause you speak to points I never |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 06:58 PM |
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i'm sorry Humor_In_Cuneiform |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 07:29 PM |
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I guess you felt like you got jumped on pretty hard and fast for |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 07:42 PM |
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to be fair, I expected it. |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 07:47 PM |
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May I respectfully disagree? |
Karenina |
Jun-02-06 07:17 PM |
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I don't see any reason why what I wrote in my post cannot be |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 07:26 PM |
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Oh, Dearest H_I_C |
Karenina |
Jun-02-06 07:46 PM |
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Is okay. Your phrasing made it easy to respond to. |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 08:02 PM |
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So, the soldiers doing this... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 07:28 PM |
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And THAT, SB |
Karenina |
Jun-02-06 07:48 PM |
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Yeah, well it's real easy to judge while you are sitting at a keyboard... |
tjwash |
Jun-02-06 06:38 PM |
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it isn't easy for me, and I will continue to judge |
bigtree |
Jun-02-06 07:13 PM |
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Sheesh, now I know how those stupid rumors about Vietnam |
Raksha |
Jun-02-06 07:45 PM |
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"Babykiller" has been spewed on this very site... |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 07:50 PM |
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And it was a dreadful legacy of the Vietnam war, that the troops |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 07:57 PM |
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I wonder if that was really a DUer or a troll. |
Raksha |
Jun-02-06 08:08 PM |
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It was a member with 1000+ posts. |
Scoody Boo |
Jun-02-06 08:13 PM |
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Got the name or a link??? |
U4ikLefty |
Jun-03-06 02:11 PM |
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Just another freeper troll with pathetic fantasies & perverted arguments |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-04-06 02:14 AM |
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Paula Zahn apparently feeling shame |
DemonFighterLives |
Jun-02-06 07:28 PM |
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Amen to that. The opportunity to fix what we broke seems to be |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 07:40 PM |
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Some type of change for sure |
DemonFighterLives |
Jun-02-06 08:04 PM |
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I know. I know. It is incredibly frustrating to have to watch |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jun-02-06 08:12 PM |
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Sugar-coating, cheerleading |
bloom |
Jun-02-06 07:58 PM |
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I've learned my lesson. I'll keep my mouth shut from now on |
Seabiscuit |
Jun-02-06 08:22 PM |
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I feel proud of those that resist this war. |
Tom Joad |
Jun-02-06 08:48 PM |
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95+% should feel NO SHAME. |
alittlelark |
Jun-02-06 08:59 PM |
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Well said - I would think it's a very small percentage |
Laurab |
Jun-02-06 10:16 PM |
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they have participated in a shameful war of aggression.... |
mike_c |
Jun-02-06 11:37 PM |
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THEY should only feel shame if THEY did something |
alittlelark |
Jun-03-06 12:30 AM |
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they are each and every one participating in a crime against humanity.... |
mike_c |
Jun-03-06 12:34 AM |
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With that logic you and I are engaging in a crime against humanity |
alittlelark |
Jun-03-06 12:58 AM |
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Actually, that is true, technically... |
Solon |
Jun-03-06 02:25 AM |
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then I presume you disagree that the war against Iraq is a crime.... |
mike_c |
Jun-03-06 09:58 AM |
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The war is a crime and 95% of our soldiers should not feel any Shame. |
alittlelark |
Jun-03-06 10:09 AM |
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you seem to be not getting it over and over.... |
mike_c |
Jun-03-06 10:16 AM |
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I don't see how you separate the crime from the force that committed it |
bigtree |
Jun-03-06 10:41 AM |
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Lets remember where the real villification belongs |
Ksec |
Jun-03-06 01:48 PM |
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Yes the knucklehead in chief |
DemonFighterLives |
Jun-03-06 02:29 PM |
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DUers are generally scared shitless to criticize the military.... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-03-06 02:01 PM |
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anyone who's followed my posts knows of my support for the soldiers |
bigtree |
Jun-03-06 06:40 PM |
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Military |
SeaBob |
Jun-03-06 07:20 PM |
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Perfect case in point. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-04-06 01:00 AM |
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Rumsfeld was sleeping to allow this to out, won't happen again though |
Imagevision |
Jun-03-06 02:31 PM |
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Soldiers |
SeaBob |
Jun-03-06 07:17 PM |
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All of that has been fleshed out in this post and responded to |
bigtree |
Jun-03-06 08:11 PM |
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Shame? That's soooo 16th century! |
JVS |
Jun-04-06 01:01 AM |
#94 |
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