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Ladyhawk

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Wed May-31-06 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #40

88. No. I'm merely a "cretin / shitdog / fuckwit" apologist.

I'm 99% sure Leopold is full of shit, but if he isn't, I'll rejoice that Karl got indicted. But until that highly unlikely event happens, those making the positive claim still have the burden of proof. Also, it doesn't undo the damage by labeling dissenting voices "cretins, shitdogs and fuckwits"...or was that "fuckshits"? Perhaps the proper fuckwit or fuckshit can refresh my memory.

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The Leopold disaster was useful and instructive	Stevendsmith	May-30-06 12:57 PM	#0
Why do you hate America?	meisje	May-30-06 01:01 PM	#1
Neither you nor I know if it was a "total choke-job"	tridim	May-30-06 01:01 PM	#2
Deleted message	Name removed	May-30-06 01:03 PM	#3
Totally.. but still, nobody knows what actually happened	tridim	May-30-06 01:15 PM	#10
Okay	symbolman	May-30-06 01:20 PM	#12
I can't, just like the OP can't prove they choked.	tridim	May-30-06 01:23 PM	#16
So why do you make such a claim	symbolman	May-30-06 01:25 PM	#18
Let me be clear (for the hundredth time).. I don't know what happened	tridim	May-30-06 01:38 PM	#25
Yeah.	symbolman	May-30-06 01:57 PM	#31
There is One Possibility That May Exonerate Leopold	ribofunk	May-31-06 01:25 PM	#140
His claim has been thoroughly investigated by much of the Media and debunk	Juniperx	Jun-02-06 05:00 PM	#191
The OP did make a claim	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:07 PM	#46
Read my post again	symbolman	May-31-06 09:17 AM	#110
You still don't get it... I'm not defending Leopold, just honesty	Juniperx	Jun-02-06 04:58 PM	#190
How about prove they weren't?	emcguffie	Jun-01-06 05:30 PM	#155
Whoops, sorry, posted my reply to you instead of the fellow to whom--	emcguffie	Jun-01-06 05:31 PM	#156
If you are a professional journalist	Goblinmonger	May-30-06 01:50 PM	#29
There is no proof one way or the other	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:25 PM	#54
I was just replying to the justification	Goblinmonger	May-31-06 10:21 AM	#125
No matter what , we	dogday	Jun-02-06 09:30 AM	#176
Everyone knows what happened...	Scoody Boo	May-30-06 07:06 PM	#45
Can you prove Rove was not indicted?	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:51 PM	#59
can you prove Bigfoot wasn't indicted?	foo_bar	May-30-06 09:19 PM	#74
Answering a question with a question....	Juniperx	May-31-06 08:54 AM	#99
source?	foo_bar	May-31-06 11:10 AM	#129
Looking for lies...	Juniperx	May-31-06 01:27 PM	#141
...in all the wrong places	foo_bar	May-31-06 02:11 PM	#147
There would be not 'burden of proof' for the OP had he not made a claim.	Catrina	Jun-01-06 01:33 AM	#151
whose post are you replying to?	foo_bar	Jun-01-06 05:49 AM	#153
I don't have $500.00 to risk, but I will take your bet.	Redbear	May-31-06 09:46 AM	#117
Deleted message	Name removed	May-30-06 01:05 PM	#4
As was the Macbeth Debacle	wtmusic	May-30-06 01:07 PM	#5
There are ROVE APOLOGISTS HERE?	symbolman	May-30-06 01:08 PM	#6
I suppose some of us are 'terrorist apologists' as well.	Jigarotta	May-30-06 01:12 PM	#8
yeah, they're called the DLC	ixion	May-30-06 01:14 PM	#9
Oh that's right	symbolman	May-30-06 01:18 PM	#11
oh yeah... poor widdle DLC... just trying to get along with everyone	ixion	May-30-06 01:21 PM	#14
So	symbolman	May-30-06 01:27 PM	#19
I never take anything at face value	ixion	May-30-06 01:46 PM	#28
What about the claims	Goblinmonger	May-30-06 01:52 PM	#30
uh, well, no... although I hadn't heard anything about those	ixion	May-30-06 01:58 PM	#33
Well,	Goblinmonger	May-30-06 02:01 PM	#36
will do, thanks	ixion	May-30-06 02:18 PM	#37
Can't you get over it and move on?	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:24 PM	#52
Fallacious reasoning. Words can hurt. Besides, the name-calling	Ladyhawk	May-31-06 02:22 AM	#95
Only things you allow to hurt you can really hurt you	Juniperx	May-31-06 08:59 AM	#102
I'm not sure what got deleted and what is still searchable.	Ladyhawk	May-31-06 01:41 AM	#
A thick skin is required when	dogday	May-31-06 09:43 AM	#114
I'm a "cretin / shitdog / fuckwit" apologist.	Ladyhawk	May-31-06 01:34 AM	#87
Hey, I'm a fuckwit, too.	Goblinmonger	May-31-06 10:30 AM	#126
"brought me closer to my creed of skepticism and truthseeking"	Wrinkle_In_Time	Jun-01-06 11:02 PM	#169
"dehumanizationist rhetoricalishmis drunkihubrist truthiness"	Jazz2006	Jun-01-06 11:11 PM	#171
Toughen up man	dogday	Jun-02-06 09:36 AM	#177
Look over there! It's Goldstein!!!	TheWraith	Jun-01-06 06:19 PM	#164
here's a good story on what I'm talking about	ixion	May-30-06 02:01 PM	#35
Thanks for this link! It made this thread worthwhile. BTW, I agree with	WiseButAngrySara	May-30-06 02:37 PM	#38
sure thing...	ixion	May-30-06 02:45 PM	#39
But since TO was the Publisher of Leopold's screed	symbolman	May-30-06 02:51 PM	#41
The silence of Pitt, T.O. and Leopold speaks volumes at this point in	WiseButAngrySara	May-30-06 03:39 PM	#43
Pitt has spoken again	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:52 PM	#60
Weren't they going to reveal their sources...	PassingFair	May-30-06 09:48 PM	#77
They're sticking to their story	sweatyk	May-30-06 10:21 PM	#80
They aren't convinced	Juniperx	May-31-06 08:56 AM	#100
Did you even read my post? or accidentally respond to the wrong one? n/t	WiseButAngrySara	May-30-06 11:03 PM	#82
Ooops! Your #2 thought... sorry... n/t	Juniperx	May-31-06 08:53 AM	#98
Yes	theboss	May-31-06 09:45 AM	#116
And yet	symbolman	May-31-06 10:01 AM	#121
How long should a reasonable person wait after something	Strong Atheist	May-31-06 11:11 AM	#130
Crickets .... nt.	Strong Atheist	Jun-02-06 11:25 AM	#184
I agree that the silence speaks volumes	symbolman	May-31-06 01:15 AM	#83
So does the constant shifting away from their original story...	Jazz2006	May-31-06 01:29 AM	#86
Your responses throughout this whole ordeal have always been	WiseButAngrySara	May-31-06 01:51 AM	#90
And I appreciate your posts too	symbolman	May-31-06 09:44 AM	#115
Maybe they have nowhere to retreat to.	Taxloss	Jun-02-06 09:45 AM	#179
Still waitng for your reply to post #43 Symbolman! Curious. ....n/t	WiseButAngrySara	May-30-06 06:57 PM	#44
Did I miss something?	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:29 PM	#56
It doesn't have to be "proved" false	theboss	May-31-06 09:46 AM	#118
Thanks for the opinion n/t	Juniperx	Jun-01-06 09:39 AM	#154
Not an opinion; fact	theboss	Jun-01-06 05:42 PM	#158
Those are assumptions, not facts	Juniperx	Jun-01-06 05:50 PM	#161
So, where is the indictment	theboss	Jun-01-06 05:56 PM	#162
Just because you or I can't come up with a scenario that fits	Juniperx	Jun-01-06 06:00 PM	#163
Perhaps the indictment was filed with the Fairy Queen.	TheWraith	Jun-01-06 06:38 PM	#165
If we were living in a non-Bush world	Juniperx	Jun-01-06 07:20 PM	#166
Ah, you speak of Russian Anti-acoustic Submarines...	Wrinkle_In_Time	Jun-01-06 11:22 PM	#172
Have you actually used Occam's Razor in this argument?	Juniperx	Jun-02-06 01:56 PM	#188
They can't be held responsible	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:54 PM	#61
By the standards you propose,	Jazz2006	May-31-06 01:41 AM	#89
Why assume BushCo doesn't know about it?	Juniperx	May-31-06 08:57 AM	#101
Once again I hope you realise	symbolman	May-31-06 09:51 AM	#119
If they say the sky is blue	Juniperx	May-31-06 12:46 PM	#135
Where is the info that Rove gave up his security clearance? I don't recall	Garbo 2004	May-31-06 01:23 PM	#139
April 19, WH spokesmodel Scotty: Rove retains security clearance.	Garbo 2004	May-31-06 03:01 PM	#149
I've not seen anything that indicates he lost his security clearance....	Jazz2006	Jun-01-06 01:39 AM	#152
"we have proof he has lied in the past, but like the devil himself,	Jazz2006	May-31-06 01:43 PM	#144
What I learned	johnnie	May-30-06 01:10 PM	#7
Is your avatar	symbolman	May-30-06 01:23 PM	#17
Lol, naw	johnnie	May-30-06 01:28 PM	#20
Well that IS the LAW	symbolman	May-30-06 01:31 PM	#22
Love that song.	Jigarotta	May-30-06 01:33 PM	#23
Yeah, I saw the movie	johnnie	May-30-06 01:38 PM	#24
The world is falling apart and you want to talk about Leopold...whats up?	movonne	May-30-06 01:21 PM	#13
One must ask oneself what the motivation is	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:14 PM	#48
So by your comment	symbolman	May-31-06 09:38 AM	#112
Bob Shrum was Leopold's source.	texasleo	May-30-06 01:21 PM	#15
K & R Stevendsmith	symbolman	May-30-06 01:29 PM	#21
Deleted sub-thread	Name removed	May-30-06 01:39 PM	#26
Second recommendation	DancingBear	May-30-06 01:40 PM	#27
K&R...	SidDithers	May-30-06 01:58 PM	#32
I've learned that Kool-Aid comes in more than one flavor. nt	Jigarotta	May-30-06 01:59 PM	#34
What if it comes out that Rove has actually been indicted all this time	LittleClarkie	May-30-06 02:47 PM	#40
I suppose I should, but prolly won't because	Jigarotta	May-30-06 03:09 PM	#42
Good question!	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:16 PM	#49
But you said in another post	symbolman	May-31-06 09:42 AM	#113
that's a variation on "Pascal's Wager"	foo_bar	May-30-06 07:55 PM	#62
Horsehockey	LittleClarkie	May-30-06 08:29 PM	#66
au contraire, mon frere!	foo_bar	May-30-06 09:13 PM	#72
What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China?	LittleClarkie	May-30-06 09:19 PM	#73
it's my attempt at a rebuttal to "Horsehockey"	foo_bar	May-30-06 09:26 PM	#75
But but but..	symbolman	May-31-06 09:58 AM	#120
No. I'm merely a "cretin / shitdog / fuckwit" apologist.	Ladyhawk	May-31-06 01:39 AM	#88
Quite so.	Jazz2006	May-31-06 01:51 AM	#91
I also want to give my thanks to those who questioned the story	Ladyhawk	May-31-06 02:21 AM	#94
Except there is no scenario where the facts described are plausible	theboss	Jun-01-06 05:43 PM	#159
Hey, Here's A Scab On A Badly Beaten Topic. Maybe I Should Pick It To Make	OPERATIONMINDCRIME	May-30-06 07:12 PM	#47
Doesn't it make you wonder who benefits from this	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:20 PM	#50
No, Doesn't Make Me Wonder. It Is Already Well Known That Nobody Benefits	OPERATIONMINDCRIME	May-30-06 07:24 PM	#53
Ahhh... attention whoring	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:27 PM	#55
The horse ain't dead. Just as you say: Nothing has been	The Onyx Key	May-30-06 09:54 PM	#79
Wow... I never thought of it that way.	Juniperx	May-31-06 09:00 AM	#103
I wasn't picking a scab.	Stevendsmith	May-30-06 07:33 PM	#57
It is a very positive development	DancingBear	May-30-06 07:43 PM	#58
I disagree	Juniperx	May-30-06 07:56 PM	#63
Proving a negative is a false argument	DancingBear	May-30-06 08:13 PM	#64
Your example does not fit	Juniperx	May-30-06 08:35 PM	#67
It fits exactly	DancingBear	May-30-06 08:46 PM	#68
If you can prove YOUR points, please do so	Juniperx	May-30-06 08:55 PM	#69
Sorry, I tried	DancingBear	May-30-06 09:12 PM	#71
You've proved nothing	Juniperx	May-31-06 09:07 AM	#104
Remember - Carvel cake on June 12th - don't miss it!	DancingBear	May-31-06 09:36 AM	#111
Look at the shiny keys....	Juniperx	May-31-06 12:43 PM	#134
If the story cannot be proven correct...	SidDithers	May-31-06 09:15 AM	#108
EXACTLY	symbolman	May-31-06 10:04 AM	#123
Deleted message	Name removed	May-30-06 07:21 PM	#51
No it wasn't. Unfortunately. The faith-based credulous here...	BlooInBloo	May-30-06 08:18 PM	#65
Unrepentant... just like those who choose to believe there	Juniperx	May-30-06 08:57 PM	#70
Deleted message	Name removed	May-30-06 09:26 PM	#76
Does it make you feel better about yourself to make fun of people?nt	Juniperx	May-31-06 09:12 AM	#107
Well, Leopold himself backed off his own story...	Jazz2006	May-31-06 02:02 AM	#93
I listened to that radio interview	Juniperx	May-31-06 09:09 AM	#106
Well, listen to it again...	Jazz2006	May-31-06 01:14 PM	#137
Leopold answered that there is a possibility n/t	Juniperx	May-31-06 01:51 PM	#145
He answered exactly as I posted above.	Jazz2006	May-31-06 02:26 PM	#148
IBTL!	crispini	May-30-06 09:53 PM	#78
Could you at least "dress up" the horse?	symbolman	May-31-06 09:08 AM	#105
Truthout: We stand by the story	sweatyk	May-30-06 10:28 PM	#81
To me this just gets more and more Bizarre..	symbolman	May-31-06 01:20 AM	#84
It's just more of truthout's distancing themselves from what they actually	Jazz2006	May-31-06 02:28 AM	#96
Cripes! Give it a rest!	Jersey Devil	May-31-06 01:28 AM	#85
Hear, hear!	Juniperx	May-31-06 09:16 AM	#109
Your 2 cents is very much appreciated	Laurab	May-31-06 01:28 PM	#142
Did you win?	Rex	May-31-06 01:55 AM	#92
"a needed check ..."	Jazz2006	May-31-06 02:49 AM	#97
It was also	Marie26	May-31-06 10:02 AM	#122
People beleived it because they WANTED it to be true	Freddie Stubbs	May-31-06 11:37 AM	#131
Right	Marie26	May-31-06 12:06 PM	#133
Very good point.	Jazz2006	May-31-06 01:18 PM	#138
Please don't! :) nt	Marie26	May-31-06 01:38 PM	#143
.	ContraBass Black	May-31-06 10:09 AM	#124
...	Lochloosa	May-31-06 10:33 AM	#127
LOL!	Marie26	May-31-06 10:56 AM	#128
It was instructive, but the instruction won't be	igil	May-31-06 11:59 AM	#132
So you know what has happened or not happened and the circumstances	mmonk	May-31-06 12:48 PM	#136
Hmmmm!	Roon	May-31-06 02:03 PM	#146
they gambled, lost, and flushed their own credibility	LaCrosseDem	Jun-01-06 12:45 AM	#150
How about "prove they weren't"?	emcguffie	Jun-01-06 05:32 PM	#157
That's easy	theboss	Jun-01-06 05:46 PM	#160
There is no scenario in legal history	Juniperx	Jun-01-06 07:51 PM	#167
Fine...so Fitzgerald is just a wimp then	theboss	Jun-02-06 08:49 AM	#173
Don't put words in my mouth... if you want to believe	Juniperx	Jun-02-06 08:57 AM	#174
The right time is the day the indictments are quashed	theboss	Jun-02-06 09:08 AM	#175
Again... history has nothing to do with now...	Juniperx	Jun-02-06 11:00 AM	#182
Junkie Jason needs wollop?	Wrinkle_In_Time	Jun-01-06 10:27 PM	#168
Rove Is GOING DOWN!	stepnw1f	Jun-01-06 11:06 PM	#170
It was not useful or instructive.TO has accepted no responsibilty.	Snivi Yllom	Jun-02-06 09:42 AM	#178
"TO has accepted no responsibilty"	DancingBear	Jun-02-06 10:14 AM	#180
I am trying to understand what you just posted	dogday	Jun-02-06 10:57 AM	#181
Read some of the "rationale" for defending TO	DancingBear	Jun-02-06 11:16 AM	#183
Group-speak seems to be prevalent on	dogday	Jun-02-06 12:18 PM	#185
Ooops! Looks like you got to close to something...	Juniperx	Jun-02-06 04:48 PM	#189
You forgot my rationale... conveniently, methinks...	Juniperx	Jun-02-06 01:23 PM	#187
We'll see. It may yet turn out to be true.	rman	Jun-02-06 12:49 PM	#186

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