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scoey1953 Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:37 PM
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75. As a Resident of San Francisco
It sickened me to see all those Giant fans stand up and cheer for a guy who basically cheated his way to the top. What is wrong with these fans? They don't seem to care how someone wins, just so long as they can feel like they are winners too? I saw a great sign, that said "Babe Ruth did it with Beer and Hot dogs, what did you do it with Barry?". All those players who have used steroids and broken records have tainted baseball forever.

Even though now there will be harsh rules against steroids, Bonds should have been brougth before the commisioner and asked to step down before he has tainted the record. There must be a asterik placed next to Mark McGuire, Bonds and others names who broke records while under the influence.

San Francisco fans should be ashamed but many of them are not. Many have turned a blind eye towards what has happened. I have left the Giants support now and root for the Los Angeles Angels. Not only
do I not respect the team, but many of the fans as well. I will still love this city, but more than just the FOG hangs over it now.
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  -I wish Barry Bonds had the tact and grace to retire before he hit this Thtwudbeme  May-28-06 05:18 PM   #0 
  - I agree  tives12   May-28-06 05:21 PM   #1 
  - I thought they tested McGwire.  Che_Nuevara   May-28-06 05:22 PM   #2 
  - "Loophole, good for him."  mac56   May-28-06 05:27 PM   #3 
  - Agreed, of course.  Che_Nuevara   May-28-06 05:38 PM   #11 
  - Not really. McGwire staged a subterfuge with the media  Lefty48197   May-28-06 11:35 PM   #43 
     - I did not actually know that.  Che_Nuevara   May-29-06 08:32 AM   #49 
     - The only difference with McGuire...  DubyaSux   May-29-06 01:27 PM   #73 
  - Bonds will never hold a legit record  Ksec   May-28-06 05:27 PM   #4 
  - And what about the fact that there are more games per season now?  BrklynLiberal   May-28-06 05:33 PM   #5 
  - Didn't they say that about Maris and #61?  OldLeftieLawyer   May-28-06 05:35 PM   #9 
  - Another viewpoint  Bluzmann57   May-28-06 05:42 PM   #14 
  - Why can't we demand an asterisk beside Babe's record  winston61   May-28-06 06:12 PM   #21 
     - What about Hank Greenberg with 58 homers in 1938?  5thGenDemocrat   May-28-06 09:39 PM   #36 
     - Throw in Willie Mays too  Lefty48197   May-28-06 11:37 PM   #44 
     - Because there's no way to prove  Oeditpus Rex   May-28-06 10:25 PM   #38 
  - And long ago  rpannier   May-28-06 06:17 PM   #23 
  - Nothing but cheats,  OldLeftieLawyer   May-28-06 05:34 PM   #6 
  - shee, america is ruled by a conman!  pretzel4gore   May-28-06 05:34 PM   #7 
  - For the good of the game, I wish everyone who broke records ,  RDANGELO   May-28-06 05:34 PM   #8 
  - For real!  Drum   May-28-06 05:37 PM   #10 
  - Why? Do you give a shit if some singer or actor is a  winston61   May-28-06 06:10 PM   #19 
     - Apples and oranges.  mac56   May-29-06 10:10 AM   #60 
        - Must disagree, it is all the same-  winston61   May-29-06 11:27 AM   #64 
  - Theres no proof that Barry Bonds took steroids  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-28-06 05:38 PM   #12 
  - I'm with you  CatWoman   May-28-06 05:40 PM   #13 
  - ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!  Bluzmann57   May-28-06 05:47 PM   #16 
  - The white sports establishment can't.....  CanSocDem   May-28-06 06:23 PM   #24 
  - Oh, for god's sake.  mac56   May-28-06 08:39 PM   #30 
  - Thank You CanSocDem  951-Riverside   May-28-06 08:49 PM   #32 
  - it's also about time that you noticed that Mark McGuire isn't  Thtwudbeme   May-29-06 08:47 AM   #54 
  - It's funny - it's hard to think of a single outspoken black man....  BlooInBloo   May-28-06 11:01 PM   #42 
  - Jack Johnson?  Lefty48197   May-28-06 11:40 PM   #45 
     - THANK YOU!!!!  BlooInBloo   May-28-06 11:49 PM   #47 
  - Yes I do. /eom  CanSocDem   May-29-06 09:05 AM   #58 
  - Oh, yeah. I recall how much the white media couldn't stand Michael Jordan.  phylny   May-29-06 12:11 AM   #48 
     - Jordan wasn't exactly outspoken  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-29-06 08:52 AM   #56 
     - The "public" Jordan was wonderful. The private Jordan was ruthless,  phylny   May-29-06 11:30 AM   #66 
        - I'd imagine so. He didn't speak up when kids were being killed over his  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-29-06 01:01 PM   #69 
     - that's not true - remember all the gambling stories?  CatWoman   May-29-06 11:46 AM   #68 
  - Read "Game of Shadows."  JackDragna   May-29-06 01:23 PM   #72 
  - Exactly...where's the proof?  SunDrop23   May-28-06 10:25 PM   #37 
  - If we're going to base things on what *may* have happened  Oeditpus Rex   May-28-06 10:32 PM   #39 
  - I don't mean to be vividly disgusting  MADem   May-28-06 05:44 PM   #15 
  - So Bonds isn't great?  Johonny   May-28-06 05:51 PM   #17 
  - Why does anyone care?  winston61   May-28-06 06:08 PM   #18 
  - Because we have respect for honesty and tradition  Lefty48197   May-28-06 11:42 PM   #46 
  - This did not start with Reagan-  winston61   May-29-06 08:42 AM   #52 
     - Yes it DID start with Ronald Reagan  Lefty48197   May-29-06 08:53 AM   #57 
        - Yes and Reagan killed Kennedy and kidnapped the  winston61   May-29-06 11:22 AM   #63 
  - Then why do they bother testing for doping at the Olympics?  mac56   May-29-06 10:11 AM   #61 
  - Barry will be sorry someday. n/t  dave502d   May-28-06 06:11 PM   #20 
  - Tact and grace? Barry Bonds? Hah!!  speedoo   May-28-06 06:16 PM   #22 
  - Gee, ball player who is an asshole, that's unheard of!  winston61   May-29-06 08:44 AM   #53 
     - You've brought up Ty Cobb a couple of times now.  mac56   May-29-06 10:06 AM   #59 
        - What I do not understand is why we have different  winston61   May-29-06 11:15 AM   #62 
  - Totally agree....  KAT119   May-28-06 06:27 PM   #25 
  - Bonds is the perfect example of the arrogance that athletes are;  jedr   May-28-06 06:28 PM   #26 
  - What did Bonds do in Pittsburgh  Bill McBlueState   May-28-06 06:34 PM   #27 
  - Bonds cried that he couldn't make money;  jedr   May-28-06 06:46 PM   #28 
     - why is Bonds an asshole because he wants to make money?  winston61   May-29-06 08:49 AM   #55 
  - Arrogant and cruel ball players are nothing new-  winston61   May-29-06 08:33 AM   #50 
  - LOL at that!  Blue_Tires   May-28-06 06:47 PM   #29 
  - ...Its because he's black  951-Riverside   May-28-06 08:48 PM   #31 
  - You didn't look very far.  mac56   May-28-06 08:52 PM   #33 
  - Why don't you read the OP again...particularly the LAST PARAGRAPH  Thtwudbeme   May-29-06 08:37 AM   #51 
  - It seems interesting to me  DefenseLawyer   May-28-06 09:04 PM   #34 
  - You notice, though  Oeditpus Rex   May-28-06 10:51 PM   #41 
  - :thumbsup:  Balbus   May-28-06 09:06 PM   #35 
  - Bonds? Tact and grace?  theHandpuppet   May-28-06 10:37 PM   #40 
  - The record is meaningless now anyway.  mwb970   May-29-06 11:29 AM   #65 
  - Agreed. I think it's a disgrace. n/t  mountainvue   May-29-06 11:34 AM   #67 
  - I don't understand all the hype about this.  fleabert   May-29-06 01:09 PM   #70 
  - Piss tests for the working middle class, why not these rich ball players?  Beelzebud   May-29-06 01:12 PM   #71 
  - Tact and Grace???  DubyaSux   May-29-06 01:28 PM   #74 
  - As a Resident of San Francisco  scoey1953   May-29-06 02:37 PM   #75 
  - This behavior is simply a result of the high status...  tandem5   May-29-06 02:38 PM   #76 
  - Can't lay all that on sports alone.  mac56   May-29-06 06:31 PM   #77 
  - He's the best player in baseball.  BullGooseLoony   May-29-06 06:57 PM   #78 

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