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Tue May-30-06 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 50. You've introduced a false straw man |
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"cannot allow", when people are free and equal, must then be a crime, and
it is not a crime to migrate.
You were "allowed" to come to LA. I was "allowed" to leave. I was "allowed"
in to britain as i'm legal on the up an up, and i see no reason to introduce
a chinese-like system of permits where we can and cannot move and live.
It benefits us all to experience different places, to "choose" where we want
to invest our life force in to what community. If you honour other people's
choices and empower them with good government, then we have a progressive
consensus.
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| -The economic side of immigration: |
1932 |
May-28-06 09:54 AM |
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Why doesn't anyone want to talk about our already overtaxed infrastructure |
Juniperx |
May-28-06 09:58 AM |
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Can't pay for all that without a successful economy |
treestar |
May-28-06 10:01 AM |
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There are unemployment lines just full of people for those jobs |
Juniperx |
May-28-06 10:04 AM |
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CEOS have to hire somebody to build their bigger houses, even |
treestar |
May-28-06 10:33 AM |
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There are no long lines of unemployed Americans... |
Juniperx |
May-28-06 12:57 PM |
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Your post reads like something from the Limbaugh Letter |
brentspeak |
May-29-06 12:09 PM |
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The bulk of our taxes go to support a bloated military.... |
rfranklin |
May-28-06 10:06 AM |
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If population growth and resources were the problem then we might still |
1932 |
May-28-06 10:18 AM |
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That doesn't give us immediate use of more water, sewer, etc. |
Juniperx |
May-28-06 01:05 PM |
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Give working people political power and you'll solve those problems |
1932 |
May-28-06 08:41 PM |
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If the floodgates open |
Juniperx |
May-29-06 08:31 AM |
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Pay workers fair wages & end neoliberal exploitation of foreign countries |
1932 |
May-29-06 11:49 AM |
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Please don't put words into my mouth |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 07:17 AM |
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What ridiculous hyperbole! |
entanglement |
May-29-06 06:29 PM |
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Clearly you miss the point |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 07:20 AM |
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This comment is just so disgusting I don't know what to say |
proud2Blib |
May-29-06 06:41 PM |
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How so? |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 07:15 AM |
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And the ironic aspect of your worries, |
Maestro |
May-29-06 11:51 AM |
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No, not if the work is city related. City workers are not illegals. |
IndyJones |
May-29-06 07:54 PM |
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Not around Los Angeles County... the area that would be impacted |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 07:25 AM |
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Because it's not in their backyard, so they don't care. If it is in |
IndyJones |
May-29-06 07:52 PM |
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Exactly. I'm labeled a racist even if they have to grasp at straws |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 07:30 AM |
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What utter bullshit! |
Warpy |
May-28-06 10:23 AM |
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So you didn't listen to the link? |
1932 |
May-28-06 10:29 AM |
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By the way, I'd say that the decline of the power of unions and the rise |
1932 |
May-28-06 10:31 AM |
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The question isn't about whether it helps "the economy"... |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-28-06 01:02 PM |
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When I say helps the economy, I mean that it helps working people |
1932 |
May-28-06 08:45 PM |
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Yeah sure, and trickle down economics is great for the working class. |
LostInAnomie |
May-29-06 12:17 PM |
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The argument against repealing the estate tax and against super |
1932 |
May-29-06 03:19 PM |
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But the argument that it holds wages flat is not. |
LostInAnomie |
May-29-06 04:56 PM |
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I'm not sure if that's a priori logic |
1932 |
May-29-06 05:36 PM |
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That backs what I said here. |
Maestro |
May-29-06 03:23 PM |
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Jesus we're cheap |
sweetheart |
May-29-06 06:05 PM |
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Well said |
proud2Blib |
May-29-06 06:43 PM |
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Well said. I think this immmigration debate is the new gay marriage. |
1932 |
May-29-06 07:46 PM |
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I'm all for the ability to freely walk the planet |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 09:55 AM |
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Los Angeles has a more embedded problem |
sweetheart |
May-30-06 02:56 PM |
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I never said it was the fault of the immigrants that we are where we are |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 03:41 PM |
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Which LA politicians want to shore up the infrastructure? |
Bridget Burke |
May-30-06 03:17 PM |
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Nope, you're wrong about our air and water |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 03:31 PM |
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It sounds as though Bush is more to blame than..... |
Bridget Burke |
May-30-06 03:37 PM |
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I never once blamed the freaking immigrants! |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 03:46 PM |
#44 |
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the sacred crucible of free will |
sweetheart |
May-30-06 03:58 PM |
#46 |
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So you would disagree with the term... |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 04:06 PM |
#47 |
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You've introduced a false straw man |
sweetheart |
May-30-06 04:18 PM |
#50 |
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Tell that to my neighbors in and around downtown LA |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 04:40 PM |
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I was born there too... |
sweetheart |
May-30-06 05:02 PM |
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You are ignoring one major fact |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 05:26 PM |
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Have you been to the owens valley? |
sweetheart |
May-30-06 04:12 PM |
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I've spent a lot of time in Owen's Valley, Mammoth Lakes |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 04:29 PM |
#51 |
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Well now that you're unburdened of that |
sweetheart |
May-30-06 04:51 PM |
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You deserved that rant by calling me names! |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 05:14 PM |
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yes dear |
sweetheart |
May-30-06 05:42 PM |
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Yes, there are many things that need fixed |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 05:51 PM |
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It's much easier to criticize Immigrants than Republicans... |
Bridget Burke |
May-30-06 03:07 PM |
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No one is playing the race end here but you |
Juniperx |
May-30-06 03:49 PM |
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Ah, FAIR & its less reputable cousins... |
Bridget Burke |
May-30-06 03:33 PM |
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Well, there are two FAIRs |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-30-06 04:08 PM |
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Thanks for the correction. |
Bridget Burke |
May-31-06 07:53 AM |
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