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43. I didn't count on the military as a solution and I don't think of the
military as the entire government. I think that's a different country you're talking about. Yes, we all must suffer the shame of what's been done in our names, just as the Germans had to suffer and the Romans before them. But, I did not do this war. I didn't support it and I didn't vote for it. The people who did vote for this war need to step up and ask forgiveness and stop trying to justify their actions. They failed us. The failed the world.

Bill Clinton, himself, has made many mistakes, failing to act in Rwanda being the biggest. He admitted his errors and we were able to move on. I don't understand why it's so hard for his wife to do the same. How hard is it to say, "You know, we were wrong to make war on Iraq. I'm sorry I voted for the use of force. I was wrong to trust the judgement of this president. I believed what he and his administration were telling me. Many things they have said have proven to be false. The problem now is, we have broken Iraq and we must do everything we can to fix it. Forgive me." How hard is that? How hard is that?

I was a big Hillary fan, but I must admit, I'm feeling a little shaky about her now. Why won't she say it? I don't get it. Is it Murdoch's money? I understand "playing the middle," but you know what? I'm the middle, (ok, slightly left of middle), and she's losing me.
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  Clinton gets cranky as a question about Dems and Iraq hits close to home BurtWorm  May-26-06 05:57 PM   #0 
   That damn war vote is gonna bite her in the ass  Generic Other   May-26-06 06:05 PM   #1 
   Donahue said it best  Roon   May-26-06 06:08 PM   #3 
   It took me a while to get that.  BurtWorm   May-26-06 06:15 PM   #7 
   I don't think Phil meant only the Democrats  Bucky   May-26-06 06:29 PM   #17 
   Oh! Why did he ever lose his show?!?!  Roon   May-26-06 07:28 PM   #27 
   I didn't count on the military as a solution and I don't think of the  Miss Chybil   May-27-06 02:16 PM   #43 
      Except she is nervous Iraq might actually turn out as the GOP predicts.  Toots   May-28-06 10:53 AM   #49 
   Yep!  Roon   May-26-06 07:25 PM   #26 
   What I think he was saying is there was no upside to opposing the war  Bucky   May-26-06 06:20 PM   #11 
   That's why the ones who  zidzi   May-26-06 06:53 PM   #24 
   Hilary is PROUD of the war -- PROUD  Terran1212   May-27-06 10:56 AM   #34 
   Millions KNEW what would happen.  bvar22   May-27-06 01:10 PM   #41 
   Forget Iraq - She's hawkish on Iran  Master Mahon   May-26-06 06:10 PM   #4 
   You may be right.  cat_girl25   May-26-06 06:11 PM   #5 
   "That damn war vote is gonna bite her in the ass"  Husb2Sparkly   May-26-06 06:18 PM   #10 
   Goddamn right it should! CHOMP CHOMP that ass!!  paparush   May-26-06 07:55 PM   #30 
   You bet it should  Lugnut   May-27-06 01:44 PM   #42 
   Yep. There were plenty of people who were against the war, and there  BrklynLiberal   May-27-06 04:59 PM   #45 
   Dallying with Monica  zidzi   May-26-06 06:43 PM   #21 
   Bravo!  montanacowboy   May-26-06 06:07 PM   #2 
   We can win in '08...Neither Al Gore nor Feingold Voted for Iraq Occupation  Dunvegan   May-26-06 06:13 PM   #6 
   Hillary Clinton wants to portray herself as being...  Disturbed   May-26-06 06:23 PM   #14 
   I think she still carries the scars of that witch hunt. I think that's why  Bucky   May-26-06 06:31 PM   #18 
      I agree.  BurtWorm   May-27-06 10:54 AM   #32 
   If we don't emphasize fair elections or stay on message.  politicasista   May-26-06 06:54 PM   #25 
   Gore wasn't even in a position to vote on the IWR. n/t  wisteria   May-27-06 11:06 AM   #37 
      His Sept 23, 2002 speech clearly defined his position on IWR and  Larkspur   May-27-06 05:07 PM   #47 
   They were INDEED, knowable.  debbierlus   May-26-06 06:16 PM   #8 
   And somehow we also knew not to trust that fucker Bush  BurtWorm   May-26-06 06:18 PM   #9 
   It wasn't that difficult, really. On Feb 15, 2003, some 30 million  coalition_unwilling   May-26-06 07:50 PM   #29 
   How dare they ask relevant questions  rniel   May-26-06 06:21 PM   #12 
   Someone told me something similar about NAFTA and GATT  Elwood P Dowd   May-26-06 06:22 PM   #13 
   Bill Clinton should come out strongly against this war.  tabasco   May-26-06 06:26 PM   #15 
   Bush said it wasn't a vote for war  sandnsea   May-26-06 06:28 PM   #16 
   Were the Dems that voted yes on IWR really that  Disturbed   May-26-06 06:35 PM   #19 
   It really doesn't matter  sandnsea   May-26-06 06:46 PM   #22 
      You make some good points  politicasista   May-26-06 06:51 PM   #23 
      IWR was designed just for that purpose.  BurtWorm   May-27-06 10:57 AM   #35 
   The Democrats who voted for IWR enabled him.  BurtWorm   May-27-06 10:55 AM   #33 
   Guy Saperstein! What a hero!  zidzi   May-26-06 06:42 PM   #20 
   I can tell you one thing.  Bouncy Ball   May-26-06 07:43 PM   #28 
   I am with you 100%.  BrklynLiberal   May-27-06 05:02 PM   #46 
   Saperstein asks: "Are voters supposed to forget how we got into this mess,  xchrom   May-26-06 08:21 PM   #31 
   There're more than a few inconvenient facts out there. - n/t  porphyrian   May-27-06 11:01 AM   #36 
   The WORSE thing ANY Democrat could have done was cast a freakin' vote  in_cog_ni_to   May-27-06 11:37 AM   #38 
   In_Cog, cuz you have principles, politicians only think about funders.  Tom Joad   May-27-06 12:53 PM   #40 
   B&H don't need to apologize to any American reporters, but first to  Tom Joad   May-27-06 12:46 PM   #39 
   When asked about why people voted for the IWR, why don't Dems  babylonsister   May-27-06 04:13 PM   #44 
   It's a thin excuse in the face of millions who knew otherwise, but the  kenzee13   May-28-06 11:00 AM   #51 
   Oaktown civil rights lawyer  wryter2000DU Moderator   May-28-06 10:42 AM   #48 
   The classic DLC response: look forward, not back on the Iraq war  leesa   May-28-06 11:00 AM   #50 
 

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