Miss Chybil
(1000+ posts)
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Sat May-27-06 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #17 |
| 43. I didn't count on the military as a solution and I don't think of the |
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military as the entire government. I think that's a different country you're talking about. Yes, we all must suffer the shame of what's been done in our names, just as the Germans had to suffer and the Romans before them. But, I did not do this war. I didn't support it and I didn't vote for it. The people who did vote for this war need to step up and ask forgiveness and stop trying to justify their actions. They failed us. The failed the world.
Bill Clinton, himself, has made many mistakes, failing to act in Rwanda being the biggest. He admitted his errors and we were able to move on. I don't understand why it's so hard for his wife to do the same. How hard is it to say, "You know, we were wrong to make war on Iraq. I'm sorry I voted for the use of force. I was wrong to trust the judgement of this president. I believed what he and his administration were telling me. Many things they have said have proven to be false. The problem now is, we have broken Iraq and we must do everything we can to fix it. Forgive me." How hard is that? How hard is that?
I was a big Hillary fan, but I must admit, I'm feeling a little shaky about her now. Why won't she say it? I don't get it. Is it Murdoch's money? I understand "playing the middle," but you know what? I'm the middle, (ok, slightly left of middle), and she's losing me.
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Clinton gets cranky as a question about Dems and Iraq hits close to home |
BurtWorm |
May-26-06 05:57 PM |
#0 |

That damn war vote is gonna bite her in the ass |
Generic Other |
May-26-06 06:05 PM |
#1 |
 
Donahue said it best |
Roon |
May-26-06 06:08 PM |
#3 |
  
It took me a while to get that. |
BurtWorm |
May-26-06 06:15 PM |
#7 |
   
I don't think Phil meant only the Democrats |
Bucky |
May-26-06 06:29 PM |
#17 |
    
Oh! Why did he ever lose his show?!?! |
Roon |
May-26-06 07:28 PM |
#27 |
    
I didn't count on the military as a solution and I don't think of the |
Miss Chybil |
May-27-06 02:16 PM |
#43 |
   
Except she is nervous Iraq might actually turn out as the GOP predicts. |
Toots |
May-28-06 10:53 AM |
#49 |
   
Yep! |
Roon |
May-26-06 07:25 PM |
#26 |
  
What I think he was saying is there was no upside to opposing the war |
Bucky |
May-26-06 06:20 PM |
#11 |
  
That's why the ones who |
zidzi |
May-26-06 06:53 PM |
#24 |
  
Hilary is PROUD of the war -- PROUD |
Terran1212 |
May-27-06 10:56 AM |
#34 |
  
Millions KNEW what would happen. |
bvar22 |
May-27-06 01:10 PM |
#41 |
 
Forget Iraq - She's hawkish on Iran |
Master Mahon |
May-26-06 06:10 PM |
#4 |
 
You may be right. |
cat_girl25 |
May-26-06 06:11 PM |
#5 |
 
"That damn war vote is gonna bite her in the ass" |
Husb2Sparkly |
May-26-06 06:18 PM |
#10 |
  
Goddamn right it should! CHOMP CHOMP that ass!! |
paparush |
May-26-06 07:55 PM |
#30 |
  
You bet it should |
Lugnut |
May-27-06 01:44 PM |
#42 |
  
Yep. There were plenty of people who were against the war, and there |
BrklynLiberal |
May-27-06 04:59 PM |
#45 |
 
Dallying with Monica |
zidzi |
May-26-06 06:43 PM |
#21 |

Bravo! |
montanacowboy |
May-26-06 06:07 PM |
#2 |

We can win in '08...Neither Al Gore nor Feingold Voted for Iraq Occupation |
Dunvegan |
May-26-06 06:13 PM |
#6 |
 
Hillary Clinton wants to portray herself as being... |
Disturbed |
May-26-06 06:23 PM |
#14 |
  
I think she still carries the scars of that witch hunt. I think that's why |
Bucky |
May-26-06 06:31 PM |
#18 |
 
I agree. |
BurtWorm |
May-27-06 10:54 AM |
#32 |
 
If we don't emphasize fair elections or stay on message. |
politicasista |
May-26-06 06:54 PM |
#25 |
 
Gore wasn't even in a position to vote on the IWR. n/t |
wisteria |
May-27-06 11:06 AM |
#37 |

His Sept 23, 2002 speech clearly defined his position on IWR and |
Larkspur |
May-27-06 05:07 PM |
#47 |

They were INDEED, knowable. |
debbierlus |
May-26-06 06:16 PM |
#8 |
 
And somehow we also knew not to trust that fucker Bush |
BurtWorm |
May-26-06 06:18 PM |
#9 |
 
It wasn't that difficult, really. On Feb 15, 2003, some 30 million |
coalition_unwilling |
May-26-06 07:50 PM |
#29 |

How dare they ask relevant questions |
rniel |
May-26-06 06:21 PM |
#12 |

Someone told me something similar about NAFTA and GATT |
Elwood P Dowd |
May-26-06 06:22 PM |
#13 |

Bill Clinton should come out strongly against this war. |
tabasco |
May-26-06 06:26 PM |
#15 |

Bush said it wasn't a vote for war |
sandnsea |
May-26-06 06:28 PM |
#16 |
 
Were the Dems that voted yes on IWR really that |
Disturbed |
May-26-06 06:35 PM |
#19 |
  
It really doesn't matter |
sandnsea |
May-26-06 06:46 PM |
#22 |
 
You make some good points |
politicasista |
May-26-06 06:51 PM |
#23 |
 
IWR was designed just for that purpose. |
BurtWorm |
May-27-06 10:57 AM |
#35 |
 
The Democrats who voted for IWR enabled him. |
BurtWorm |
May-27-06 10:55 AM |
#33 |

Guy Saperstein! What a hero! |
zidzi |
May-26-06 06:42 PM |
#20 |

I can tell you one thing. |
Bouncy Ball |
May-26-06 07:43 PM |
#28 |
 
I am with you 100%. |
BrklynLiberal |
May-27-06 05:02 PM |
#46 |

Saperstein asks: "Are voters supposed to forget how we got into this mess, |
xchrom |
May-26-06 08:21 PM |
#31 |

There're more than a few inconvenient facts out there. - n/t |
porphyrian |
May-27-06 11:01 AM |
#36 |

The WORSE thing ANY Democrat could have done was cast a freakin' vote |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-27-06 11:37 AM |
#38 |
 
In_Cog, cuz you have principles, politicians only think about funders. |
Tom Joad |
May-27-06 12:53 PM |
#40 |

B&H don't need to apologize to any American reporters, but first to |
Tom Joad |
May-27-06 12:46 PM |
#39 |

When asked about why people voted for the IWR, why don't Dems |
babylonsister |
May-27-06 04:13 PM |
#44 |
 
It's a thin excuse in the face of millions who knew otherwise, but the |
kenzee13 |
May-28-06 11:00 AM |
#51 |

Oaktown civil rights lawyer |
wryter2000 |
May-28-06 10:42 AM |
#48 |

The classic DLC response: look forward, not back on the Iraq war |
leesa |
May-28-06 11:00 AM |
#50 |