| -Atheist Removes Memorial Crosses For Woman, Baby |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:11 PM |
#0 |
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Sorry, but that's just messed up... |
Mythsaje |
May-23-06 02:14 PM |
#1 |
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Atheists can be religious fanatics |
jobycom |
May-23-06 02:30 PM |
#31 |
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Read the other article in the OP; it will give you a different view of the |
lindisfarne |
May-23-06 03:08 PM |
#59 |
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I had already read it. Gives me the same opinion. |
jobycom |
May-23-06 08:18 PM |
#138 |
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I'm a proud atheist who's never been offended by a cross |
formernaderite |
May-25-06 07:44 AM |
#327 |
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So true |
BoneDaddy |
May-25-06 09:27 PM |
#350 |
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It is his property |
proud2Blib |
May-24-06 09:33 AM |
#223 |
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What part of private property is so hard to deal with here? |
politicat |
May-24-06 09:29 PM |
#280 |
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Wow that is some higher thinking |
BoneDaddy |
May-24-06 11:14 PM |
#300 |
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No more morally bankrupt than society forcing religious displays |
politicat |
May-25-06 01:00 AM |
#307 |
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Damn, and I was gonna ask if I could "erect" a symbol of my love |
U4ikLefty |
May-25-06 03:39 AM |
#313 |
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Is it tasteful? |
politicat |
May-25-06 05:34 PM |
#346 |
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Okay let's try to think rationally AND compassionately |
BoneDaddy |
May-25-06 07:30 PM |
#349 |
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Why thank you for the lecture on living with others. |
politicat |
May-25-06 11:06 PM |
#352 |
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So now your are a grief counselor too |
BoneDaddy |
May-26-06 07:02 AM |
#353 |
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I've seen this sort of thing annoy other atheists |
LittleClarkie |
May-23-06 02:14 PM |
#2 |
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exagerate much? n/t |
Scout |
May-23-06 10:17 PM |
#154 |
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Only if the cemeteries are on their property |
proud2Blib |
May-24-06 09:35 AM |
#224 |
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Cemeteries are the place for this. Private property isn't. |
politicat |
May-24-06 09:34 PM |
#282 |
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His property; his rules |
TechBear_Seattle |
May-23-06 02:14 PM |
#3 |
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Oops, didn't see that he's the property owner. Of course it was his right |
LittleClarkie |
May-23-06 02:16 PM |
#7 |
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I don't dispute that he could have handled the matter better |
TechBear_Seattle |
May-23-06 02:19 PM |
#12 |
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I still wonder if we erased the religious symbolism |
LittleClarkie |
May-23-06 02:23 PM |
#20 |
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The logical fallacy of the red herring |
TechBear_Seattle |
May-23-06 02:27 PM |
#27 |
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But not the angels?? |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 05:37 PM |
#108 |
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Those have been appropriated by the New Age movement |
LittleClarkie |
May-23-06 06:43 PM |
#123 |
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Says who? |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 07:42 PM |
#132 |
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Eh. I was being facetious. |
LittleClarkie |
May-23-06 07:48 PM |
#135 |
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ah ok, sorry , my bad :) (nt) |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 07:55 PM |
#136 |
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Note how he "accidentally" destroyed the father's baby booties |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-23-06 11:40 PM |
#164 |
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He has the right to deem what is crap or not on his own land. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-24-06 10:53 PM |
#297 |
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Absolutely |
BoneDaddy |
May-26-06 09:32 AM |
#354 |
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He left several items, including religious, and only removed the cross |
jobycom |
May-23-06 02:36 PM |
#36 |
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Would he, or we? whaddayamean we |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-23-06 11:35 PM |
#162 |
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Why would I do that |
LittleClarkie |
May-24-06 12:34 AM |
#178 |
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That's OK, unlike Brodmerkle, I can be an equal-opportunity jerk. :-) n/t |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 01:14 AM |
#187 |
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Who cares... |
Bzzzz |
May-24-06 11:56 AM |
#243 |
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He allowed it in the first place and then became an asshole. |
seriousstan |
May-23-06 02:23 PM |
#21 |
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Now see. I should read the whole thing before reacting |
LittleClarkie |
May-23-06 02:32 PM |
#33 |
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Read again... |
politicat |
May-24-06 09:39 PM |
#285 |
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Read the article... |
Ms. Toad |
May-23-06 06:29 PM |
#122 |
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I think they used it because that was his reasoning |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:17 PM |
#8 |
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I agree. That was my first thought. |
BrklynLiberal |
May-23-06 02:21 PM |
#14 |
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If he said he was a Baptist and opposes "popish nonsense" like shrines |
TechBear_Seattle |
May-23-06 02:21 PM |
#15 |
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Bashing everyone in this country it seems, even on DU, is fine |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:46 PM |
#43 |
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I should pope so. Ideally people WOULD be offended. Or anti-"pagan" nt |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 01:53 AM |
#195 |
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legally I agree, if its his property, he should not have to have that up, |
Lerkfish |
May-23-06 02:18 PM |
#11 |
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I agree with you there |
TechBear_Seattle |
May-23-06 02:22 PM |
#17 |
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When did it become "progressive" to defend absolute property rights |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-23-06 11:43 PM |
#165 |
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I don't think a Wiccan would do what the fiance did... |
Scout |
May-24-06 10:35 PM |
#291 |
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Exactly, and a memorial doesn't have to include a symbol |
Warpy |
May-23-06 02:24 PM |
#23 |
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What about those of us who find symbols of witchcraft offensive? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-23-06 11:47 PM |
#167 |
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Exactly why I suggested nonsectarian symbols |
Warpy |
May-24-06 07:41 AM |
#208 |
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It's not always about rights. |
11cents |
May-23-06 02:39 PM |
#40 |
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Thank you. No building memorials on private prop w/o permission. duh |
elehhhhna |
May-23-06 02:52 PM |
#48 |
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Edit: read the 2nd article in the OP. It will make the situation more |
lindisfarne |
May-23-06 02:59 PM |
#51 |
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Nope, read again, grieving father says 2 MONTHS |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 12:04 AM |
#170 |
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I agree the guy is an ass |
proud2Blib |
May-24-06 09:39 AM |
#225 |
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If it were my dead kid's baby booties, I wouldn't have put them on |
politicat |
May-24-06 10:17 PM |
#288 |
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Just because he has a legal right to do it |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 06:03 AM |
#205 |
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That's my opinion. It's his property. |
Clark2008 |
May-24-06 06:16 AM |
#207 |
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Just another battle in the 'War on Cristians' |
democrat_patriot |
May-23-06 02:15 PM |
#4 |
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"Its the guys property he can do what he wants" |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 12:14 AM |
#175 |
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First, it's against the law... |
Bzzzz |
May-24-06 12:04 PM |
#245 |
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That headline will go a long way toward setting the tone for debate |
Bill McBlueState |
May-23-06 02:15 PM |
#5 |
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Property Owner Removes Memorial Crosses After Telling Bereaved YES |
cryingshame |
May-23-06 03:04 PM |
#55 |
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they should hire you |
Bill McBlueState |
May-23-06 03:25 PM |
#70 |
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Property owner said they could remain for 2 weeks. |
PassingFair |
May-23-06 03:56 PM |
#93 |
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If he was innocently burying the items out of respect, |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 12:26 AM |
#177 |
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"DUers, being fair and objective, won't fall for this"... |
Wrinkle_In_Time |
May-23-06 09:47 PM |
#152 |
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Yup, critical thinking skills seem to be in short supply here... |
SidDithers |
May-24-06 08:18 AM |
#213 |
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pretty much... |
Bill McBlueState |
May-24-06 08:23 AM |
#214 |
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Methinks there may be more to this story than being reported |
MindPilot |
May-23-06 02:15 PM |
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See the second link I posted, a lot more info there (nt) |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:17 PM |
#10 |
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For instance, she was pregnant. "Cross for woman, baby" is misleading |
Bluebear |
May-23-06 02:26 PM |
#25 |
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Um, not really - in some states the Driver could be charged with 2 counts |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:49 PM |
#44 |
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Journalistically, I would think "pregnant woman killed" is more accurate |
Bluebear |
May-23-06 02:51 PM |
#45 |
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She was 8 months pregnant & they tried to save the baby. |
Bridget Burke |
May-23-06 03:18 PM |
#65 |
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Thank you, the stories above did not point out 'how pregnant' she was. nt |
Bluebear |
May-23-06 03:35 PM |
#78 |
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That's pretty much the whole country |
RGBolen |
May-24-06 12:13 AM |
#174 |
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That just makes Brodmerkle a hypocrite. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 12:35 AM |
#179 |
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You're way over the top here. |
girl gone mad |
May-24-06 01:11 AM |
#186 |
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It's a slippery slope either way when you get into "property rights"... |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 01:23 AM |
#189 |
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Rt. 62 is not a highway at all. It's a backroad. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-24-06 11:09 PM |
#299 |
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Not nice to bury them, but it's his property. |
ContraBass Black |
May-23-06 02:17 PM |
#9 |
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The guy does sound like a prick but... |
NJ_Lib |
May-23-06 02:20 PM |
#13 |
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Common law says Brodmerkle could've shot 'im fer trespassing n/t |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 12:38 AM |
#180 |
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The guy seems to be an asshole |
johnnie |
May-23-06 02:21 PM |
#16 |
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LOL! |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 12:41 AM |
#181 |
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Something I have never understood about this... |
Momgonepostal |
May-23-06 02:22 PM |
#18 |
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In the article it states that they had a mutual agreement of a 2 week |
seriousstan |
May-23-06 02:25 PM |
#24 |
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personally i am having issue with driving cross country with crosses |
seabeyond |
May-23-06 02:41 PM |
#41 |
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Our streets are drenched with the blood of people who have died |
CAcyclist |
May-23-06 03:12 PM |
#64 |
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Nobody ever got hurt getting from point a to point b until... |
MindPilot |
May-23-06 03:24 PM |
#69 |
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sure. and lets just retard our children with this kind of thinking |
seabeyond |
May-23-06 03:48 PM |
#86 |
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Hear, hear. Would people say they are "sick and tired" of PBS Honor Roll? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 12:43 AM |
#182 |
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Yeah, I have the same reaction. I don't like being reminded of tragedies |
Ladyhawk |
May-23-06 08:46 PM |
#142 |
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I agree, I see them everywhere |
Caoimhe |
May-23-06 02:43 PM |
#42 |
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One of my neighbors had a serious problem with this. |
Xithras |
May-23-06 03:33 PM |
#77 |
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what a story.... n/t |
seabeyond |
May-23-06 03:55 PM |
#92 |
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"CRAZED CHRISTIAN DESTROYS ATHEIST FARMER'S LAND ! ! !" |
beam me up scottie |
May-23-06 11:56 PM |
#168 |
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Yeah, that cross builder sounds like just as much of a jerk as Brodmerkle. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 12:56 AM |
#184 |
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Oh my |
shrike |
May-24-06 09:56 AM |
#231 |
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If crosses mean nothing |
sandnsea |
May-23-06 04:02 PM |
#97 |
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The property owner, presumably, doesn't wish to appear... |
Orsino |
May-24-06 07:53 AM |
#209 |
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It is getting rediculous. |
alphafemale |
May-24-06 01:22 AM |
#188 |
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This is based on fundamental disrespect for culture. |
lvx35 |
May-23-06 02:22 PM |
#19 |
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Strangely enough, Hindus, Muslims, and Atheists Have NO Need |
Demeter |
May-23-06 04:33 PM |
#105 |
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Oh the GALL of those Christians! How DARE they leave flowers and crosses |
lvx35 |
May-23-06 06:24 PM |
#119 |
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It's the Sense of Entitlement |
Demeter |
May-23-06 08:16 PM |
#137 |
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no, i can't imagine... |
QuestionAll |
May-23-06 09:17 PM |
#148 |
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As long as they don't leave an actual gall bladder at the memorial, I'm OK |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 02:05 AM |
#197 |
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And the Gall of that atheist for not wanting that crap on HIS land! |
Cobalt Violet |
May-24-06 11:18 PM |
#301 |
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"I don't care whose beliefs it is." |
Scout |
May-23-06 10:27 PM |
#155 |
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Ha! |
trotsky |
May-24-06 08:52 AM |
#216 |
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Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans etc. DO put up memorials, indeed. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 02:00 AM |
#196 |
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Legally and Morally fine |
Ravenseye |
May-23-06 02:24 PM |
#22 |
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He allowed it to be put there: |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:27 PM |
#26 |
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He allowed angels, a wreath, stuffed animals & flowers to be displayed |
Bluebear |
May-23-06 02:28 PM |
#28 |
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Odd though why he did allow them at first |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:33 PM |
#34 |
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I dunno. |
Bluebear |
May-23-06 02:38 PM |
#39 |
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Moral of the story: |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:51 PM |
#47 |
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That is the beauty of America... You're allowed to be a... |
NJ_Lib |
May-23-06 02:29 PM |
#29 |
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Yup you sure are |
Ravenseye |
May-23-06 02:32 PM |
#32 |
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We have a strong tradition of that in Massachusetts. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-24-06 11:26 PM |
#305 |
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I've Seen So Much Abuse of "Sensitivity" Lately |
Demeter |
May-23-06 02:29 PM |
#30 |
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"People who want to be victims"??? |
fishnfla |
May-23-06 04:06 PM |
#99 |
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The "Victim" Is The One Who Insists On Appropriating Another's Property |
Demeter |
May-23-06 04:24 PM |
#104 |
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Yes, I see, property rights trump everything |
fishnfla |
May-24-06 11:28 AM |
#240 |
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Mass law says first 6 feet next to road is not your property - so there's |
papau |
May-23-06 02:35 PM |
#35 |
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Are you talking ownership, or ROW? |
Xithras |
May-23-06 03:06 PM |
#57 |
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I am an actuary - one of my daughters is the lawyer in the family - but |
papau |
May-23-06 03:24 PM |
#68 |
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I am an atheist, but I do not see any problem |
RebelOne |
May-23-06 02:36 PM |
#37 |
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On his property. That's the issue. |
BurtWorm |
May-23-06 02:58 PM |
#50 |
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How long would you want that cross on your lawn, Burt? |
PassingFair |
May-23-06 03:42 PM |
#83 |
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It was the front lawn? He let it stay up for two weeks? |
BurtWorm |
May-23-06 03:46 PM |
#85 |
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Interestingly.... |
PassingFair |
May-23-06 03:53 PM |
#91 |
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Where did the guy pull the two months figure from? |
BurtWorm |
May-23-06 03:58 PM |
#94 |
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Sounds like a simple misunderstanding.... |
PassingFair |
May-23-06 04:01 PM |
#96 |
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Why do we only memorialize car crash victims? |
PassingFair |
May-23-06 03:36 PM |
#79 |
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You make excellent points. |
BurtWorm |
May-23-06 03:48 PM |
#87 |
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What a stupid thing for this property-owning atheist to get his |
Vinca |
May-23-06 02:37 PM |
#38 |
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These road side memorials have gotten out of hand here in Hawaii |
Jara sang |
May-23-06 02:51 PM |
#46 |
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In our case - the memorial is at home |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 02:53 PM |
#49 |
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I do the same thing--I have a little shrine for my dad over the fireplace |
MindPilot |
May-23-06 03:10 PM |
#61 |
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There are more and more of them. |
Opposite Reaction |
May-23-06 03:04 PM |
#56 |
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Agreed, I'm waiting for the contest judging who has the best memorial. |
Jara sang |
May-23-06 03:09 PM |
#60 |
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Seen any with tip jars yet? |
Opposite Reaction |
May-23-06 03:22 PM |
#67 |
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On the flip side of that |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 03:49 PM |
#88 |
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The headline's a bit provocative, ain't it. |
BurtWorm |
May-23-06 03:03 PM |
#52 |
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He was an ass. |
missb |
May-23-06 03:03 PM |
#53 |
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Premarital sex and a "bastard" child but its the ATHEIST with "no respect" |
IdaBriggs |
May-23-06 03:04 PM |
#54 |
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Lol |
charlie |
May-23-06 03:10 PM |
#62 |
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I am evil, aren't I? |
IdaBriggs |
May-23-06 04:21 PM |
#103 |
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isn't he the one who described himself as an atheist? |
onenote |
May-23-06 03:27 PM |
#71 |
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best post in this thread! |
Scout |
May-23-06 10:13 PM |
#153 |
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I'm an atheist and the crosses don't annoy me in this context |
CAcyclist |
May-23-06 03:07 PM |
#58 |
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More litter on the highways. Yeah, good idea. |
Jara sang |
May-23-06 03:10 PM |
#63 |
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You meanie. You obviously don't understand the importance... |
Opposite Reaction |
May-23-06 03:27 PM |
#72 |
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Why specific to car crashes? |
MindPilot |
May-23-06 03:21 PM |
#66 |
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Can these be back-dated? |
Opposite Reaction |
May-23-06 03:29 PM |
#75 |
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actually, to have the roadside littered with distractions |
Bill McBlueState |
May-23-06 03:32 PM |
#76 |
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I'm an atheist and they bother me a lot. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-25-06 06:25 AM |
#320 |
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Some Athiest are very passionate about their religion |
Freedom_Aflaim |
May-23-06 03:28 PM |
#73 |
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People aren't reading the 2nd article in OP - it gives a very different |
lindisfarne |
May-23-06 03:29 PM |
#74 |
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But, but, the first article is so much more sensational! |
Bluebear |
May-23-06 03:36 PM |
#80 |
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What's next? A right to BURN a cross on someone's lawn? |
IanDB1 |
May-23-06 03:41 PM |
#81 |
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I didn't realize you could just annex other peoples' property if |
Marr |
May-23-06 03:42 PM |
#82 |
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Did not annex it, asked permission and got it |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 03:58 PM |
#95 |
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I did- but apparently he also promised to remove the memorial after |
Marr |
May-23-06 04:07 PM |
#100 |
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I drove by a memorial on Rt 16 in Everett (also in MA) where |
AllieB |
May-23-06 03:43 PM |
#84 |
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He is fully within the law and has every right |
MathGuy |
May-23-06 03:51 PM |
#89 |
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Just my $0.02 |
tammywammy |
May-23-06 03:52 PM |
#90 |
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As far as I'm concerned, he was perfectly within his rights. |
Spider Jerusalem |
May-23-06 04:03 PM |
#98 |
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And then he runs to the media to make a Jerry Springer circus out of it. |
BurtWorm |
May-23-06 04:07 PM |
#101 |
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Agreed. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing this guy called a prick |
Mojambo |
May-23-06 05:02 PM |
#106 |
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Perhaps he deserved it some |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 05:36 PM |
#107 |
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I wonder if it was made clear that crosses would be a part of the memorial |
Mojambo |
May-23-06 05:55 PM |
#114 |
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What a douchebag. |
BamaLefty |
May-23-06 04:20 PM |
#102 |
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Would you really want a memorial on your front lawn? n/t |
progressivebydesign |
May-23-06 05:45 PM |
#111 |
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The "douchebag" didn't want a shrine on his property-how is he a radical? |
beam me up scottie |
May-24-06 12:06 AM |
#171 |
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He's An Idiot |
Crisco |
May-24-06 09:21 AM |
#220 |
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Good for him!! |
QuestionAll |
May-23-06 05:40 PM |
#109 |
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see post 112 |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 05:50 PM |
#113 |
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since you know so much- what were the exact terms of the agreement? |
QuestionAll |
May-23-06 05:56 PM |
#115 |
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Putting a memorial on someone's property is wrong... |
progressivebydesign |
May-23-06 05:44 PM |
#110 |
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Cause he agreed to it? |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 05:50 PM |
#112 |
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He agreed to it and lived up to the deal. |
Mojambo |
May-23-06 05:57 PM |
#116 |
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Yes, because the agreement was that it would remain for that long. |
NYC Liberal |
May-23-06 06:12 PM |
#117 |
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He agreed to 2 weeks. We are now a month past the accident |
Beaverhausen |
May-23-06 06:26 PM |
#121 |
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Why do you keep wanting to blame this guy for doing something wrong? |
trotsky |
May-24-06 08:58 AM |
#217 |
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What A Prick! |
Southpawkicker |
May-23-06 06:24 PM |
#118 |
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Yeah, it's a good thing your religious faith doesn't prevent you |
Mojambo |
May-23-06 06:52 PM |
#125 |
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You're Right, My Faith Doesn't Preclude Me From Saying What |
Southpawkicker |
May-23-06 07:30 PM |
#129 |
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Not into the whole 'turning the other cheek' thing then? |
Mojambo |
May-23-06 07:36 PM |
#131 |
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Turning The Other Cheek |
Southpawkicker |
May-23-06 08:29 PM |
#139 |
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Do you think Christ was turning the other cheek when he threw the tables |
Mojambo |
May-23-06 08:45 PM |
#141 |
| -
Why Did He Leave Some Things, And Bury The Cross? |
Southpawkicker |
May-23-06 09:03 PM |
#143 |
| -
Perhaps the idea of a memorial didn't bother him |
Mojambo |
May-23-06 09:18 PM |
#149 |
| -
He left the personal effects. |
greyl |
May-24-06 03:06 AM |
#203 |
| -
That Is An Asinine Interpretation Of My Post |
Southpawkicker |
May-24-06 06:00 PM |
#275 |
| -
It was designed to make you think. |
greyl |
May-24-06 06:06 PM |
#276 |
| -
I'm Not Shocked That You Think You Made A Point |
Southpawkicker |
May-24-06 08:19 PM |
#277 |
| -
I think most would realize that you're misreading it and |
greyl |
May-24-06 11:20 PM |
#302 |
| -
what are they? words? |
Scout |
May-23-06 10:39 PM |
#157 |
| -
Hey, Glad You Could Make It! |
Southpawkicker |
May-24-06 08:21 PM |
#278 |
| -
Why would you want to visit the place where your wife died? |
Beaverhausen |
May-23-06 06:25 PM |
#120 |
| -
Not his wife. 8 months pregnant and he wouldn't marry her. |
Divernan |
May-23-06 07:45 PM |
#133 |
| -
excellent, thank you very much |
Scout |
May-23-06 10:44 PM |
#158 |
| -
Uh, I know a couple who married when their triplets were 2 years old |
shrike |
May-24-06 09:50 AM |
#229 |
| -
just hypocrites n/t |
Scout |
May-24-06 12:13 PM |
#250 |
| -
Wish I could say something that wouldn't get this post deleted. |
shrike |
May-24-06 02:18 PM |
#263 |
| -
Yes, I Hear You |
Southpawkicker |
May-24-06 09:26 PM |
#279 |
| -
what makes either of you ASSUME I am not religious? |
Scout |
May-24-06 10:36 PM |
#292 |
| -
wtf |
Scout |
May-24-06 10:37 PM |
#293 |
| -
Don't misquote me or twist what I wrote. |
Divernan |
May-24-06 12:40 PM |
#257 |
| -
Don't see where I twisted your words |
shrike |
May-24-06 02:16 PM |
#261 |
| -
Could be. |
trotsky |
May-24-06 03:06 PM |
#269 |
| -
Well, he's the grieving party |
shrike |
May-25-06 04:20 PM |
#341 |
| -
He's a nasty old crank. |
SmokingJacket |
May-23-06 06:45 PM |
#124 |
| -
If he was a nasty old crank he would have told them to go fuck themselves |
Mojambo |
May-23-06 06:57 PM |
#127 |
| -
I don't think it has anything to do with him being an atheist |
Skittles |
May-23-06 06:56 PM |
#126 |
| -
isn't this OP and thread life the most freeped out thing you've ever seen? |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 07:04 PM |
#128 |
| -
Ironically enough |
LittleClarkie |
May-23-06 07:32 PM |
#130 |
| -
Um, we keep such things kicked all the time around here |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 07:46 PM |
#134 |
| -
Freeped? |
Southpawkicker |
May-23-06 08:31 PM |
#140 |
| -
Man that's just cold |
JNelson6563 |
May-23-06 09:11 PM |
#144 |
| -
Christian attempts to erect religious altar on private property. |
Beelzebud |
May-23-06 09:12 PM |
#145 |
| -
Logical fallacy-- red herring |
LittleClarkie |
May-23-06 09:15 PM |
#146 |
| -
Fair enough. Exchange words. It's the same thing. |
Beelzebud |
May-23-06 09:17 PM |
#147 |
| -
Skewed? Is it not an honest headline? |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 10:51 PM |
#159 |
| -
No, it's NOT an honest headline... |
Spider Jerusalem |
May-24-06 03:56 PM |
#273 |
| -
Yep. |
beam me up scottie |
May-24-06 12:01 AM |
#169 |
| -
How do we know this guy is really an Atheist? |
genie_weenie |
May-23-06 09:18 PM |
#150 |
| -
Those Atheists are SUCH assholes .... |
Trajan |
May-23-06 09:29 PM |
#151 |
| -
He brought up his idealism - not me or the reporter |
The Straight Story |
May-23-06 10:54 PM |
#160 |
| -
You posted it and got everyone yipping about it like it was a hate crime. |
beam me up scottie |
May-24-06 12:25 AM |
#176 |
| -
He brought up his milk drinking - not me or the reporter ... |
Trajan |
May-24-06 02:38 AM |
#200 |
| -
Please see my post #150. |
genie_weenie |
May-24-06 09:46 AM |
#228 |
| -
This story is like a week old - but I live up here |
Mr_Spock |
May-23-06 10:34 PM |
#156 |
| -
I guess that particular Christian doesn't know the meaning of "2 weeks"... |
SidDithers |
May-23-06 11:11 PM |
#161 |
| -
MSM's witch hunt against Atheists continues... |
Odin2005 |
May-23-06 11:38 PM |
#163 |
| -
Yep, and DU is sucking it up. |
beam me up scottie |
May-24-06 12:07 AM |
#172 |
| -
I think it's rude |
KingFlorez |
May-23-06 11:44 PM |
#166 |
| -
Is EVERY asshole who's a CHRISTIAN going to generate this much attention? |
beam me up scottie |
May-24-06 12:10 AM |
#173 |
| -
I hope so, because this is typical American behavior. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 01:32 AM |
#191 |
| -
What a ridiculous comparison. |
beam me up scottie |
May-24-06 01:37 AM |
#192 |
| -
What are you talking about? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-24-06 02:08 AM |
#198 |
| -
Just One Caveat Scottie |
Southpawkicker |
May-24-06 09:33 PM |
#281 |
| -
I guess I'm more of an asshole than this guy. |
bling bling |
May-24-06 12:47 AM |
#183 |
| -
Agreed, would not let anyone put anything on my property... nt. |
Strong Atheist |
May-24-06 08:51 AM |
#215 |
| -
Before you say "property rights!", Under Common Law, You Can Be Shot. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 01:10 AM |
#185 |
| -
"secularists" ? |
beam me up scottie |
May-24-06 01:27 AM |
#190 |
| -
Don't feel bad, some people say "values-based" like it's a bad thing |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-24-06 01:45 AM |
#193 |
| -
I don't think you're in a smaller minority. |
beam me up scottie |
May-24-06 01:53 AM |
#194 |
| -
You and me both, BMUS n/t |
varkam |
May-24-06 02:43 AM |
#202 |
| -
Wow, your definition of right-of-way fascinates me...tell me more. |
U4ikLefty |
May-25-06 04:11 AM |
#314 |
| -
Ok now |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-24-06 02:23 AM |
#199 |
| -
The Only Difference I Have With Your Idea Buffy |
Southpawkicker |
May-24-06 09:39 PM |
#284 |
| -
He probably was/is quite grief stricken |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-24-06 10:39 PM |
#294 |
| -
My .02. |
varkam |
May-24-06 02:42 AM |
#201 |
| -
That's my take, too |
shrike |
May-24-06 10:05 AM |
#233 |
| -
One month is long enough |
InaneAnanity |
May-24-06 04:27 AM |
#204 |
| -
This thread makes me ashamed to be a DUer and and atheist |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 06:14 AM |
#206 |
| -
spoken like a true atheist Donald, thanks |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-24-06 07:58 AM |
#210 |
| -
Oh please. It's his property. He allowed the crosses in for a time, |
lizzy |
May-24-06 08:01 AM |
#211 |
| -
before any debate, check the sources in the OP. this is all fiction |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-24-06 08:04 AM |
#212 |
| -
Ha? |
fun n serious |
May-24-06 09:11 AM |
#218 |
| -
I'm sure that the atheist-bashers... |
trotsky |
May-24-06 09:13 AM |
#219 |
| -
No , and the fact that no-one is admitting they think it is sickening. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 12:02 PM |
#244 |
| -
Well, let's debate the grieving process then. |
trotsky |
May-24-06 12:18 PM |
#252 |
| -
Respect is indeed a one-way street. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 12:32 PM |
#255 |
| -
I'm having a tough time reversing this situation |
trotsky |
May-24-06 12:37 PM |
#256 |
| -
It's a declining scale. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 12:59 PM |
#259 |
| -
Well now I'm even more confused. |
trotsky |
May-24-06 01:05 PM |
#260 |
| -
It seems that atheists, being more enlightened about all things |
BurtWorm |
May-24-06 03:53 PM |
#272 |
| -
I don't care if he was a property owning purple rabbit |
LittleClarkie |
May-24-06 09:51 PM |
#287 |
| -
Because he allowed a memorial on his property? |
trotsky |
May-25-06 07:34 AM |
#326 |
| -
Utter nonsense... |
Spider Jerusalem |
May-24-06 04:04 PM |
#274 |
| -
Poor choice of words, I admit. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 05:32 AM |
#317 |
| -
No, they don't. |
Spider Jerusalem |
May-25-06 06:05 AM |
#318 |
| -
Well, |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 06:16 AM |
#319 |
| -
I'm capable of keeping my grief to myself. |
Spider Jerusalem |
May-25-06 06:27 AM |
#321 |
| -
No. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 12:26 PM |
#335 |
| -
Do we have to have universal standards for what is "sickening?" |
BurtWorm |
May-24-06 03:12 PM |
#270 |
| -
Just think about having someone else turn your property into a religious |
BurtWorm |
May-24-06 10:33 AM |
#238 |
| -
Atheists, and everyone else, |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 11:48 AM |
#241 |
| -
In the Jewish religion, a mother, a husband, a child...no matter who |
BurtWorm |
May-24-06 12:08 PM |
#247 |
| -
I strongly disagree. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 12:15 PM |
#251 |
| -
Of course some people mourn privately for much longer. |
BurtWorm |
May-24-06 12:53 PM |
#258 |
| -
the fiance lost neither a wife nor a child.... |
Scout |
May-24-06 10:31 PM |
#290 |
| -
This is what I mean about this thread making me ashamed to be a DUer |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 05:15 AM |
#315 |
| -
if you don't like the company here... |
Scout |
May-25-06 02:29 PM |
#337 |
| -
so which is it, who chooses? |
Scout |
May-24-06 10:26 PM |
#289 |
| -
What the hell is this? I see someone who has interpreted the words of |
Random_Australian |
May-27-06 07:36 AM |
#358 |
| -
He buried the damn cross? |
shrike |
May-24-06 09:28 AM |
#221 |
| -
Would it have been more respectful... |
trotsky |
May-24-06 09:32 AM |
#222 |
| -
How about give it back? |
shrike |
May-24-06 09:51 AM |
#230 |
| -
We don't know the details. |
trotsky |
May-24-06 10:04 AM |
#232 |
| -
It's not about being the atheist |
shrike |
May-24-06 10:06 AM |
#234 |
| -
He allowed the memorial for a full two weeks past the agreement. |
trotsky |
May-24-06 10:11 AM |
#236 |
| -
That impression is simply wrong. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 12:10 PM |
#248 |
| -
But this isn't about refusing to allow a memorial. |
trotsky |
May-24-06 12:28 PM |
#254 |
| -
"Agreed upon timeframe"? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 05:20 AM |
#316 |
| -
And what are your grounds for believing the fiance? |
trotsky |
May-25-06 07:15 AM |
#325 |
| -
As I've said, |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 10:39 AM |
#330 |
| -
Why? |
trotsky |
May-25-06 10:49 AM |
#331 |
| -
No, you don't understand. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 12:22 PM |
#334 |
| -
No, the issue is how MUCH respect and compassion is warranted. |
trotsky |
May-25-06 01:06 PM |
#336 |
| -
I have a lot of evidence, too. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 02:58 PM |
#338 |
| -
Oh, but wait, this isn't about him being an atheist! You told me so! |
trotsky |
May-25-06 03:31 PM |
#340 |
| -
No, I said that |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-25-06 04:33 PM |
#343 |
| -
A simple reading of several posts in this thread |
trotsky |
May-25-06 05:36 PM |
#347 |
| -
I think you're rather proving my point |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-27-06 07:18 AM |
#357 |
| -
"in spite of"? |
trotsky |
May-27-06 10:47 AM |
#359 |
| -
So you bury the cross, eh? Whatever n/t |
shrike |
May-24-06 02:17 PM |
#262 |
| -
As opposed to other options? |
trotsky |
May-24-06 02:24 PM |
#264 |
| -
Call him up and say, "Two weeks are up. Come get your memorial?" |
shrike |
May-24-06 02:29 PM |
#265 |
| -
Why is it now his burden? |
trotsky |
May-24-06 02:51 PM |
#267 |
| -
The victims were buried. |
greyl |
May-24-06 11:25 PM |
#304 |
| -
Trying to make criticism of this guy into an attack on atheism |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-24-06 12:12 PM |
#249 |
| -
Perhaps a dose of the facts would be helpful. |
trotsky |
May-24-06 12:27 PM |
#253 |
| -
The media in Boston certainly played up the guy's atheism. |
BurtWorm |
May-24-06 02:38 PM |
#266 |
| -
Great point, BurtWorm. n/t |
trotsky |
May-24-06 03:14 PM |
#271 |
| -
Roadside religious icons don't belong on public property, either. |
porphyrian |
May-24-06 09:41 AM |
#226 |
| -
The Christian cross |
frogmarch |
May-24-06 09:43 AM |
#227 |
| -
His Property, why should he be forced to promote the religion |
TheFriedPiper |
May-24-06 10:11 AM |
#235 |
| -
If it is his land, he has the right to do |
dogday |
May-24-06 10:13 AM |
#237 |
| -
I have a problem with the whole roadside shrine thing, anyways |
noonwitch |
May-24-06 10:33 AM |
#239 |
| -
I would do the same if it were my property and I would charge trespassing. |
NoodleyAppendage |
May-24-06 11:56 AM |
#242 |
| -
Almost happened to me when someone stopped their car in the |
Strong Atheist |
May-24-06 12:07 PM |
#246 |
| -
No chance to bash atheists gets missed, does it? |
TheFriedPiper |
May-24-06 03:01 PM |
#268 |
| -
I expect to find a burning "null set" symbol on my lawn... |
Wrinkle_In_Time |
May-24-06 09:36 PM |
#283 |
| -
I Don't Understand Why People Put Anything To Memorialize Where Someone Is |
Southpawkicker |
May-24-06 09:45 PM |
#286 |
| -
Intolerance, pure and simple |
Nevernose |
May-24-06 10:44 PM |
#295 |
| -
Did you read that he allowed angels, stuffed animals, etc? |
Bluebear |
May-24-06 10:45 PM |
#296 |
| -
penny=pound; ALSO the anti-Catholic antipathy is VERY suspicious |
Nevernose |
May-24-06 11:06 PM |
#298 |
| -
If he doesn't want that crap on his lawn he shouldn't have to tolerate it. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-24-06 11:41 PM |
#306 |
| -
If he had been a fundamentalist Christian |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-25-06 02:21 AM |
#308 |
| -
I'd like to see a fundie allow satanic memorial symbols. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-25-06 06:39 AM |
#322 |
| -
Not a religious issue or a property issue or a rights issue - |
lynne |
May-24-06 11:20 PM |
#303 |
| -
You tell me that a wiccan and her unborn child |
depakid |
May-25-06 02:42 AM |
#309 |
| -
If they were indeed Christians, then I'd expect the same from them |
LittleClarkie |
May-25-06 02:56 AM |
#310 |
| -
Expect is one thing |
depakid |
May-25-06 03:16 AM |
#311 |
| -
How do you know that the atheist has alway be treated ... |
Cobalt Violet |
May-25-06 06:45 AM |
#323 |
| -
No I don't. |
LittleClarkie |
May-25-06 03:06 PM |
#339 |
| -
What a Jackass |
DoveTurnedHawk |
May-25-06 03:36 AM |
#312 |
| -
"abominable things"?Like what? |
Cobalt Violet |
May-25-06 06:52 AM |
#324 |
| -
The Guy's Fiancee and Unborn Child DIED |
DoveTurnedHawk |
May-25-06 08:57 AM |
#328 |
| -
Wow, the only people to ever DIE! |
Cobalt Violet |
May-25-06 10:16 AM |
#329 |
| -
The Guy Is Utterly Callous |
DoveTurnedHawk |
May-25-06 11:31 AM |
#332 |
| -
Can't wait until Billy the Klansman comes onto these peoples' properties |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-25-06 04:37 PM |
#345 |
| -
It's his property. I never quite understood this whole roadside |
lectrobyte |
May-25-06 11:39 AM |
#333 |
| -
If someone put up swastika on my property, I'd take it down |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-25-06 04:27 PM |
#342 |
| -
Let's Face It: Some People Are Just Total Assholes. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-25-06 04:36 PM |
#344 |
| -
So I'm going to reverse the situation and try it that way. |
LanternWaste |
May-25-06 06:24 PM |
#348 |
| -
Reality check |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-25-06 10:59 PM |
#351 |
| -
Make it easier for people. Imagine it was an orthodox Jew |
BurtWorm |
May-26-06 09:56 AM |
#355 |
| -
Of course not |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-26-06 11:43 PM |
#356 |
| -
MSM picks on atheists? DU'ers pick on christians? |
The Straight Story |
May-27-06 11:42 AM |
#360 |
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