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I have to back up what some people on this thread have been saying about the uniform and such. My husband served in some of the same units this guy claims to have served in and immediately spotted all the problems. In fact, when I first showed him the picture in this thread (the framed pic), he thought it was some kid "pretending."
If you think about it, if this guy was a set up, it's a clever, though ultimately unsuccessful way for the reich-wing war supporters to discredit anyone who claims anything untoward is going on in Iraq.
Unfortunately for them, there ARE people on the left who are serving and who have served and therefore can spot a fake from ten paces. The black shirt immediately caught my eye. I mean, WTF?
HOWEVER, that being said, remember, they are trying to discredit the notion that anything BAD is being done in Iraq.
Why would they want to discredit such a notion so badly?
Yep. Because these things DO happen. Some may think a veteran's spouse would be loathe to believe such things. Actually I am probably more likely to believe these horrible things happen. My husband doesn't sugarcoat things, he knows how things go.
War is an ugly, nasty business.
But this guy in the video? I doubt he ever was in the military.
Doesn't mean war isn't still an ugly, nasty business.
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| -"By my hand alone almost 200 were taken out, that's just a rough estimate" |
LibertyorDeath |
May-21-06 09:09 PM |
#0 |
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MacBeth stutters through the whole video -- |
IndyOp |
May-21-06 09:14 PM |
#1 |
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So much for all that 'support the troops' bullshit. eom |
1620rock |
May-21-06 09:21 PM |
#2 |
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He's got the courage to speak out. To implicate himself in War Crimes |
LibertyorDeath |
May-21-06 09:28 PM |
#5 |
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I don't support the troop's actions, but I do wish them peace and health. |
IndyOp |
May-21-06 09:31 PM |
#6 |
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Thanks for sharing this IndyOp |
LibertyorDeath |
May-21-06 09:53 PM |
#11 |
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IT'S A FAKE!!!!!! |
grytpype |
May-22-06 07:03 PM |
#223 |
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His beret is NOT on backwards. |
gully |
May-22-06 07:34 PM |
#226 |
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From the "Peacefilms" guestbook |
grytpype |
May-22-06 07:39 PM |
#227 |
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Another comment from a real soldier |
grytpype |
May-22-06 07:42 PM |
#228 |
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Under the photo is "Iraq Veterans Against The War" I'm thinking |
gully |
May-22-06 07:51 PM |
#231 |
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Marines don't roll sleeves like that either |
dmesg |
May-22-06 09:01 PM |
#251 |
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I'm not sure what picture this angry person is debunking, but it |
gully |
May-22-06 07:49 PM |
#230 |
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I have never seen a beret in the Army over the left ear... |
misternormal |
May-22-06 08:01 PM |
#236 |
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"backward" I was thinking backward as in backward baseball hat. |
gully |
May-22-06 08:37 PM |
#248 |
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I can not speak for a ranger... but... |
misternormal |
May-22-06 08:46 PM |
#249 |
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No, his beret is not fine. |
grytpype |
May-22-06 08:07 PM |
#237 |
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As I said, I believe the picture on the wall may have been taken |
gully |
May-22-06 08:36 PM |
#247 |
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Still doesn't explain the sleeves |
dmesg |
May-22-06 09:04 PM |
#254 |
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Not sure if he rolled them or if they are the new issue uniforms I posted |
gully |
May-22-06 09:09 PM |
#255 |
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gully, go to ivaw.net and look at their photos...the only photo of a |
file83 |
May-22-06 09:12 PM |
#257 |
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I admit to wild speculation. However I understand it's not uncommon to |
gully |
May-22-06 09:30 PM |
#258 |
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gully, show us one picture, just one picture of another Army Ranger with |
file83 |
May-22-06 09:04 PM |
#252 |
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I may be. When I said "fine" I was saying it's not "backward." |
gully |
May-22-06 09:12 PM |
#256 |
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I'll argue that the image is reversed in technical terms |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 10:52 AM |
#276 |
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AMEN! |
StellaBlue |
May-21-06 11:32 PM |
#22 |
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I want what you want, IndyOp - |
Nostradammit |
May-22-06 02:12 AM |
#67 |
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IndyOp, that is a great post. I agree with you 100%. I am sick of |
driver8 |
May-22-06 02:23 AM |
#68 |
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Winning Hearts & Minds |
watrwefitinfor |
May-22-06 05:39 AM |
#75 |
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Joining in the chorus in praise of IndyOp /nt |
al bupp |
May-22-06 08:33 AM |
#88 |
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A nightmare, indeed |
BeFree |
May-22-06 09:12 AM |
#96 |
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Bravo. |
motocicleta |
May-22-06 10:42 AM |
#110 |
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Amen |
Pacifist Patriot |
May-22-06 02:37 PM |
#181 |
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Indy, bless you for the transcript, |
Tom Joad |
May-21-06 09:37 PM |
#8 |
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The rest of what I typed from what MacBeth said is here: |
IndyOp |
May-21-06 09:42 PM |
#9 |
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Perhaps he's a stutterer? |
maveric |
May-21-06 10:38 PM |
#17 |
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I don't recall any reports like this in the foreign media. |
grytpype |
May-22-06 07:51 AM |
#78 |
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Makes me sick that this adm is behind this cruelty. |
jaxx |
May-21-06 09:25 PM |
#3 |
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This needs to be verified and then verified again.... |
Ragazz68 |
May-21-06 09:26 PM |
#4 |
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He is presented as a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War - |
IndyOp |
May-21-06 09:33 PM |
#7 |
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Hopefully Dahr Jamail can |
LibertyorDeath |
May-21-06 09:43 PM |
#10 |
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kick for the truth |
Ragazz68 |
May-22-06 02:13 PM |
#158 |
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and a kick for spite |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-24-06 08:52 PM |
#309 |
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I watched about 1 minute of this and have to wonder about the standards |
karlrschneider |
May-21-06 09:58 PM |
#12 |
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Because he has a stammer? |
EnfantTerrible |
May-21-06 10:05 PM |
#13 |
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Chimpy stammers and he's an idiot. |
kittenwithmittens |
May-22-06 10:23 AM |
#108 |
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Ever been in a combat zone? |
Earth_First |
May-21-06 10:36 PM |
#16 |
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He's not a spokesman for anything except his own experiences in Iraq |
LibertyorDeath |
May-21-06 11:33 PM |
#23 |
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rough call |
peacetheonlyway |
May-21-06 11:42 PM |
#28 |
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As though Army Rangers would officially speak out on such matters. |
rman |
May-22-06 07:55 AM |
#79 |
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"sorry-ass" |
hiley |
May-22-06 08:08 AM |
#84 |
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People sometimes stutter with PTSD. |
Lars39 |
May-22-06 08:26 AM |
#86 |
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He's not a spokeman for the army. He's telling us what HE went through. |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-22-06 11:04 AM |
#112 |
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I'm sure it was horrible...in his mind.... |
theboss |
May-23-06 11:04 AM |
#282 |
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Oh, I don't know...being order to murder the youngest child in a family |
KansDem |
May-22-06 11:59 AM |
#122 |
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I Hope I'd Kill Myself First |
Tace |
May-22-06 03:42 PM |
#203 |
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Please keep this kicked! |
NanceGreggs |
May-21-06 10:09 PM |
#14 |
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kicking for the Truth and the end of War. Now. |
northamericancitizen |
May-21-06 10:21 PM |
#15 |
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One good kick ... |
NanceGreggs |
May-21-06 10:44 PM |
#18 |
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KICK! |
mortlefaucheur |
May-21-06 10:53 PM |
#19 |
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Like the screen name mortlefaucheur LOL |
LibertyorDeath |
May-21-06 11:41 PM |
#26 |
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Cheers Nance! |
LibertyorDeath |
May-21-06 11:30 PM |
#21 |
| -
kick this baby higher... |
peacetheonlyway |
May-21-06 11:51 PM |
#32 |
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Kick |
fun n serious |
May-21-06 11:07 PM |
#20 |
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12:37 a.m. my time ... |
NanceGreggs |
May-21-06 11:38 PM |
#24 |
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You're doing a good job Nance. I applaud your determination. eom |
northamericancitizen |
May-21-06 11:41 PM |
#27 |
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Just felt I had to reply to your ... |
NanceGreggs |
May-21-06 11:54 PM |
#34 |
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You like kicking horseshit? n/t |
Clarkie1 |
May-22-06 12:06 AM |
#40 |
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Someone get this on YOUTUBE. Post a link. And we'll view/rate it up. |
Hatalles |
May-21-06 11:38 PM |
#25 |
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kick again! |
peacetheonlyway |
May-21-06 11:44 PM |
#29 |
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I don't believe this guy. I'd verify before you kick. n/t |
Clarkie1 |
May-21-06 11:51 PM |
#31 |
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Verify this guy |
davepc |
May-21-06 11:57 PM |
#36 |
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I'll kick till my heart's content |
peacetheonlyway |
May-22-06 12:00 AM |
#38 |
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So you want soldeirs to "speak up" by lies and exagerrations. |
Clarkie1 |
May-22-06 12:07 AM |
#41 |
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exaggerations |
peacetheonlyway |
May-22-06 12:28 AM |
#47 |
| -
"Lies and Exaggerations?" |
The Stranger |
May-22-06 08:36 AM |
#89 |
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Troops are ordered to do worse than this - remember the tortures? |
rman |
May-22-06 11:30 AM |
#120 |
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The reporter Dahr Jamail |
DoYouEverWonder |
May-22-06 05:52 AM |
#76 |
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Dan Rather was reliable too. But even he got tricked into a set up. |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:24 PM |
#167 |
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It think Dahr |
DoYouEverWonder |
May-22-06 03:20 PM |
#202 |
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I agree. Trust, but verify, verify, verify. Something about him |
Common Sense Party |
May-22-06 03:49 PM |
#205 |
| -
Do we have any corroboration that this is authentic? I have some doubts. |
Clarkie1 |
May-21-06 11:48 PM |
#30 |
| -
Pepperspray Productions |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 12:17 AM |
#42 |
| -
As I thought, Radical ideologues with no credibility who will lie to suit |
Clarkie1 |
May-22-06 12:21 AM |
#43 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-22-06 12:27 AM |
#46 |
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where did you get your info...? |
QuestionAll |
May-22-06 03:02 AM |
#70 |
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Have you seen the torture pictures? |
Catrina |
May-22-06 04:49 AM |
#73 |
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The Radical Ideologues are in the WH, in case you haven't noticed. |
rman |
May-22-06 07:59 AM |
#82 |
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The Radical ideologues are on the left and right, lies all. n/t |
Clarkie1 |
May-22-06 06:33 PM |
#216 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-22-06 08:39 AM |
#90 |
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There is thing that has happened throughout history |
meganmonkey |
May-22-06 12:50 PM |
#128 |
| -
there have been similar massacres since the beginning of the occupation |
leftchick |
May-22-06 02:51 PM |
#188 |
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Something is closed, but I'm not sure it's this case. |
High Plains |
May-22-06 01:31 PM |
#142 |
| -
I live in Seattle |
mirandapriestly |
May-22-06 12:29 AM |
#48 |
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You "have some doubts" ? no you don't, you called it bullshit |
Viva_La_Revolution |
May-22-06 01:40 AM |
#62 |
| -
Yeah they said that bout John Kerry when he tried to talk about War Crimes |
TheGoldenRule |
May-22-06 11:57 AM |
#121 |
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kicking in utter disgust at the crimes committed by the U.S. military.... |
mike_c |
May-21-06 11:53 PM |
#33 |
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This is utter bullshit. I just listened to the whole thing. |
Clarkie1 |
May-21-06 11:56 PM |
#35 |
| -
Dahr Jamail has more credibility than most American journalists... |
mike_c |
May-21-06 11:59 PM |
#37 |
| -
Like Truthout's credibility? |
Clarkie1 |
May-22-06 12:03 AM |
#39 |
| -
You seem to know next to nothing....... about Dahr Jamail |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 12:25 AM |
#45 |
| -
Keep arguing your point, Clarkie1! |
NanceGreggs |
May-22-06 12:29 AM |
#49 |
| -
Paid by whom? How can you be so sure?nt |
mirandapriestly |
May-22-06 12:30 AM |
#50 |
| -
right-- this from a guy with a general's pic in his sig... |
mike_c |
May-22-06 12:41 AM |
#54 |
| -
Well, someone's in deep denial, aren't they? (nt) |
mr blur |
May-22-06 05:14 AM |
#74 |
| -
Dahr Jamail & Truthout no comparison, Dahr has been in Iraq |
hiley |
May-22-06 07:55 AM |
#80 |
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If you don't feel at home on DU, you're free to leave. |
rman |
May-22-06 08:00 AM |
#83 |
| -
Funny you bring up "little fantasy worlds" nt |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 09:05 AM |
#94 |
| -
"I wonder how much the guy was paid to say that stuff." I wonder... |
Junkdrawer |
May-22-06 09:49 AM |
#103 |
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I'm wondering |
EnfantTerrible |
May-22-06 10:23 AM |
#107 |
| -
Usual suspects... |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
May-22-06 02:33 PM |
#176 |
| -
Have to say I think The Usual Suspects are double bluffing. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
May-22-06 02:55 PM |
#192 |
| -
"He Disgusts Me". |
novalib |
May-22-06 10:23 AM |
#109 |
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And you determined that he is speaking the truth how? n/t |
Clarkie1 |
May-22-06 06:30 PM |
#215 |
| -
Haditha |
Ms. Clio |
May-22-06 12:36 PM |
#126 |
| -
The Haditha video evidence |
hiley |
May-22-06 12:55 PM |
#131 |
| -
thanks for the additional info. |
Ms. Clio |
May-22-06 01:09 PM |
#136 |
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only the seriously |
hiley |
May-22-06 01:28 PM |
#139 |
| -
Good lord |
meganmonkey |
May-22-06 01:31 PM |
#141 |
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I think Dahr Jamail might have been tricked like Dan Rather got tricked... |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:09 PM |
#155 |
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As I understand it, Dan Rather is one of the nation's heroes. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
May-22-06 02:35 PM |
#178 |
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Except Rather didn't get tricked. |
dailykoff |
May-22-06 02:35 PM |
#179 |
| -
Yeah, but you know what I mean. |
file83 |
May-22-06 03:01 PM |
#195 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-22-06 12:22 AM |
#44 |
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Pray for America |
bigluckyfeet |
May-22-06 01:21 PM |
#137 |
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In case anyone doubts that Operation Iraqi Freedom |
dailykoff |
May-22-06 12:30 AM |
#51 |
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good point, where's my European asskicking "Tough Love" |
peacetheonlyway |
May-22-06 12:40 AM |
#53 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-22-06 12:37 AM |
#52 |
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Thanks peacetheonlyway |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 12:41 AM |
#55 |
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I was at the kangaroo Court Joke of a Trial |
peacetheonlyway |
May-22-06 12:45 AM |
#56 |
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Well said! |
NanceGreggs |
May-22-06 12:50 AM |
#57 |
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hey nance... that donkey of yours |
peacetheonlyway |
May-22-06 12:54 AM |
#58 |
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HEY!!!!! |
NanceGreggs |
May-22-06 01:14 AM |
#61 |
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the only thing better |
peacetheonlyway |
May-22-06 09:52 AM |
#104 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
May-22-06 12:58 AM |
#59 |
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Thanks to wtmusic for getting it on YouTube |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 01:13 AM |
#60 |
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There's a freep dropping nasty comments at the vid page. nt |
Hatalles |
May-22-06 01:43 AM |
#63 |
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Is he emailing his comments from Iraq? |
NanceGreggs |
May-22-06 01:49 AM |
#64 |
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Note to YouTube visitors/members... |
Hatalles |
May-22-06 01:52 AM |
#65 |
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The Part 3 video clip has made YouTube's "Most Discussed List" for the day |
Hatalles |
May-22-06 04:40 AM |
#72 |
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The videos have all been deleted from YouTube |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 08:51 AM |
#265 |
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One more Kick. Peace Now.... |
northamericancitizen |
May-22-06 01:57 AM |
#66 |
| -
Imagine! n/t |
laylah |
May-22-06 02:51 AM |
#69 |
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kick |
tavalon |
May-22-06 03:55 AM |
#71 |
| -
Needs a |
vickiss |
May-22-06 06:03 AM |
#77 |
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kick for peace |
rman |
May-22-06 07:56 AM |
#81 |
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yes |
hiley |
May-22-06 08:10 AM |
#85 |
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I'd like to know when he was there - I can't |
OKNancy |
May-22-06 08:27 AM |
#87 |
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The video is very compelling. |
Heidi |
May-22-06 08:50 AM |
#91 |
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Thanks, I watched the first part. video say he was wounded |
OKNancy |
May-22-06 08:54 AM |
#92 |
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Try video on YouTube |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 08:54 AM |
#93 |
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Someone is Hushing him |
fun n serious |
May-22-06 09:09 AM |
#95 |
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It's possible the server was overwhelmed. nt |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 09:18 AM |
#97 |
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The video link has been disabled. NSA is at it again. Anyone have a copy |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-22-06 09:20 AM |
#98 |
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Here it is in three parts: |
Heidi |
May-22-06 09:22 AM |
#100 |
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Thank you, Heidi. |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-22-06 11:05 AM |
#113 |
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Prego! |
Heidi |
May-22-06 11:11 AM |
#114 |
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See post #92 n/t |
Junkdrawer |
May-22-06 09:29 AM |
#101 |
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Looks like they exceeded their account limits. |
Xithras |
May-22-06 12:54 PM |
#130 |
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(gasp) I saw this last night and |
peacebuzzard |
May-22-06 09:21 AM |
#99 |
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YouTube video (and kick) |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 09:42 AM |
#102 |
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His name seems to be "Jesse" -- not "Jessie"? |
DTinAZ |
May-22-06 10:17 AM |
#105 |
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Spoke with people from Pepperspray Productions |
DTinAZ |
May-22-06 03:04 PM |
#198 |
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He is going to be one of the leaders of the revolution! |
deaniac21 |
May-22-06 10:17 AM |
#106 |
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I've written to the website owners... |
DTinAZ |
May-22-06 10:54 AM |
#111 |
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Other questions. |
Heidi |
May-22-06 11:23 AM |
#116 |
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At this stage some verification of claims would certainly help. nt |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 11:25 AM |
#118 |
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Explanation from the owner of Peacefilms.org |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 09:07 AM |
#267 |
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If he is not a ranger, but his story is valid? |
theboss |
May-23-06 09:33 AM |
#269 |
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well, the story still has some truthiness! |
davepc |
May-23-06 10:40 AM |
#274 |
| -
Hmm. This is a good test to see which DUers are gullible and |
brentspeak |
May-22-06 11:19 AM |
#115 |
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You're right |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 11:23 AM |
#117 |
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Well, I sincerely hope that this is a bogus story... n/t |
Peter Frank |
May-22-06 03:53 PM |
#206 |
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Peacefilms Site Disabled |
retrospective66 |
May-22-06 11:28 AM |
#119 |
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It appears he was not a Ranger. |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 12:10 PM |
#123 |
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Links? |
Heidi |
May-22-06 12:24 PM |
#125 |
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I'm not an expert, but this is what some people are saying about his beret |
file83 |
May-22-06 01:30 PM |
#140 |
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yes, this is more persuasive |
Ms. Clio |
May-22-06 01:52 PM |
#147 |
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Looks like he's wearing a new beret with the lining still in it. |
D__S |
May-22-06 01:53 PM |
#148 |
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I also noticed the fold on Macbeth's beret is wrong... |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:02 PM |
#152 |
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try here. |
davepc |
May-22-06 02:23 PM |
#164 |
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His story is a deft mix of truth and fiction. |
Xithras |
May-22-06 12:43 PM |
#127 |
| -
Haditha |
Ms. Clio |
May-22-06 12:57 PM |
#133 |
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You have no proof that he's lying |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 01:04 PM |
#135 |
| -
That he wears fake flash... |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 01:32 PM |
#143 |
| -
We'll see |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 01:39 PM |
#144 |
| -
Did you notice too that his beret is on the WRONG way? |
file83 |
May-22-06 01:40 PM |
#145 |
| -
Earlier this morning Jessie MacBeth... |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 02:01 PM |
#151 |
| -
Have the freepers picked up on this? |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:03 PM |
#153 |
| -
Freepers, Veterans' Sites... |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 02:26 PM |
#168 |
| -
Way too late. |
kittenwithmittens |
May-22-06 02:28 PM |
#170 |
| -
He said he got a bronze star too |
OKNancy |
May-22-06 02:05 PM |
#154 |
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I'm not sure what that signifies, lot's of people get bronze stars... |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:20 PM |
#160 |
| -
I have no idea. My thoughts are that |
OKNancy |
May-22-06 02:40 PM |
#184 |
| -
Screenshot |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 02:15 PM |
#159 |
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And now that page has been removed? Weird....I wonder why. |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:22 PM |
#163 |
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Yep. |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 02:23 PM |
#165 |
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so anybody could have posted all that info & called himself Jesse Macbeth? |
Ms. Clio |
May-22-06 02:32 PM |
#174 |
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Exactly. Hmmmm. |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 02:37 PM |
#182 |
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If the profile was put up... |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 02:52 PM |
#189 |
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I just set up a profile for Fred Garvin (Dan Akroyd)... |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:59 PM |
#193 |
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The Military.com account/membership was activated in 2005. |
D__S |
May-22-06 03:01 PM |
#194 |
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That comment struck me as odd too |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 03:05 PM |
#199 |
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the protest march pic could have been posted anytime, though |
Ms. Clio |
May-22-06 03:14 PM |
#201 |
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I could Kiss YA !! |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 02:24 PM |
#166 |
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You got it |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 02:27 PM |
#169 |
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great work! |
Ms. Clio |
May-22-06 02:29 PM |
#171 |
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That is what I was talking about... |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 02:32 PM |
#175 |
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Are you 110% on that?....Just asking |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 02:53 PM |
#190 |
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Yes. 100% Certain. |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 03:09 PM |
#200 |
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Clarification on the CAB and Ranger/Infantry |
reformed_military |
May-23-06 09:37 AM |
#270 |
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the awards and badges have been removed... |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 09:41 AM |
#271 |
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The profile is NOT gone... |
DTinAZ |
May-22-06 03:43 PM |
#204 |
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The Military.com profile has been redacted |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 08:46 AM |
#264 |
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. |
Xithras |
May-22-06 04:01 PM |
#207 |
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He never claims to have been in Fallujah. nt |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 12:59 PM |
#134 |
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Yes he did |
OKNancy |
May-22-06 01:58 PM |
#149 |
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OK |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 02:22 PM |
#162 |
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dehumanizing our troops |
Alameda |
May-22-06 12:17 PM |
#124 |
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The US seeded Death Squads in Iraq - wo why not believe his story? |
bushmeat |
May-22-06 12:54 PM |
#129 |
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It's not the story - it's the man attached to the story. You see... |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:30 PM |
#173 |
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Good advice |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 02:49 PM |
#186 |
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I could not agree more. Well said... |
Peter Frank |
May-23-06 08:30 AM |
#262 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-22-06 12:55 PM |
#132 |
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Iraq Veterans Against the War think he's legit , so do I |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 01:27 PM |
#138 |
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Thanks |
meganmonkey |
May-22-06 01:46 PM |
#146 |
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I'm currently emailing IVAW to try & establish beyond Any Doubt |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 01:59 PM |
#150 |
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That's a great idea |
meganmonkey |
May-22-06 02:09 PM |
#156 |
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Hope they answer soon |
DTinAZ |
May-22-06 02:11 PM |
#157 |
| -
I just sent the email. Will post the response soon hopefully |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 02:20 PM |
#161 |
| -
If this guy in question was marching with IVAR, it still doesn't mean |
brentspeak |
May-22-06 02:51 PM |
#187 |
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That's why I emailed them for confirmation |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 02:55 PM |
#191 |
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You still think he's "legit", now? |
brentspeak |
May-22-06 07:22 PM |
#225 |
| -
IVAW confirms his resignation from their organization |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 11:48 AM |
#286 |
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"Site Temporarily Disabled" Someone really don't like what he says. |
reprobate |
May-22-06 02:30 PM |
#172 |
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That may be because the owners have reason to believe they were tricked... |
file83 |
May-22-06 02:34 PM |
#177 |
| -
More likely a bandwidth issue |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 02:36 PM |
#180 |
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Yes bandwith issue this is just a small sample of Groups that have a link |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 02:47 PM |
#185 |
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Yes, and that too. :-) |
file83 |
May-22-06 03:03 PM |
#197 |
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Rather didn't get tricked, he got smeared. |
dailykoff |
May-22-06 02:39 PM |
#183 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-22-06 03:03 PM |
#196 |
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wow...insane |
Blue_Tires |
May-22-06 05:46 PM |
#208 |
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Vid won't play in Firefox.... any suggestions? Anyone else havin |
4MoronicYears |
May-22-06 06:03 PM |
#209 |
| -
You've gotta download something from YouTube....it works on my |
file83 |
May-22-06 09:37 PM |
#259 |
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This has been debunked as a fake, fyi. |
rpgamerd00d |
May-22-06 06:06 PM |
#210 |
| -
where? nt |
wtmusic |
May-22-06 06:10 PM |
#211 |
| -
debunked here: |
rpgamerd00d |
May-22-06 06:11 PM |
#213 |
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Hard wading through that- here is one that states |
OKNancy |
May-22-06 06:52 PM |
#218 |
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Nice info, good research. He should be ashamed for lying. |
rpgamerd00d |
May-22-06 06:56 PM |
#221 |
| -
Your 'blackfive' debunking site mentions only his outfit -- |
IndyOp |
May-22-06 06:52 PM |
#219 |
| -
Dahr Jamail is being "Dan Rathered" |
Julius Civitatus |
May-22-06 06:55 PM |
#220 |
| -
COINTELPRO n/t |
Ms. Clio |
May-22-06 07:08 PM |
#224 |
| -
more than that - his dates are wrong |
OKNancy |
May-22-06 06:57 PM |
#222 |
| -
Perhaps he got tipped off and so pulled the video from peacefilm.org... |
IndyOp |
May-22-06 07:54 PM |
#233 |
| -
Uhhh, the guy has credibility problems... |
D__S |
May-22-06 07:45 PM |
#229 |
| -
I logged off, thought about the picture, and now am feeling |
IndyOp |
May-22-06 07:52 PM |
#232 |
| -
At first I thought the guy might have actually served... |
D__S |
May-22-06 08:17 PM |
#239 |
| -
I am beginning he is a vet at all. |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 08:52 PM |
#250 |
| -
It would be us and IVAW who've been Rathered, |
rman |
May-23-06 04:02 AM |
#261 |
| -
An old friend had a brother in Iraq; this is the tip of the ice berg |
originalpckelly |
May-22-06 06:10 PM |
#212 |
| -
A friend's husband is in Iraq and claims the Iraqi people, |
vickiss |
May-22-06 07:56 PM |
#235 |
| -
Does anyone here have access to USA Army personnel register |
LibertyorDeath |
May-22-06 06:21 PM |
#214 |
| -
There is no... |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 09:04 PM |
#253 |
| -
Someone wants to "Dan Rather" possible war crimes -- careful |
Julius Civitatus |
May-22-06 06:41 PM |
#217 |
| -
Someone verify this guy served. Shouldn't be to hard for some. |
Rex |
May-22-06 07:55 PM |
#234 |
| -
maybe the picture is reversed, it happens |
allalone |
May-22-06 08:14 PM |
#238 |
| -
In a video? |
D__S |
May-22-06 08:20 PM |
#241 |
| -
it's not revered |
pocket |
May-22-06 08:22 PM |
#242 |
| -
If this was so... |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 08:22 PM |
#243 |
| -
kick! |
pocket |
May-22-06 08:19 PM |
#240 |
| -
Beret controversy solved... |
misternormal |
May-22-06 08:28 PM |
#244 |
| -
Plus his beret obviously... |
Scoody Boo |
May-22-06 08:32 PM |
#245 |
| -
I was never a ranger, and never wore a beret, but... |
misternormal |
May-22-06 08:34 PM |
#246 |
| -
This guy may not be that proud any more, |
rman |
May-23-06 03:53 AM |
#260 |
| -
Here it is |
fun n serious |
May-23-06 08:45 AM |
#263 |
| -
Aren't we tired of falling for shit yet? |
theboss |
May-23-06 08:58 AM |
#266 |
| -
More information on this obvious fake |
slackmaster |
May-23-06 09:15 AM |
#268 |
| -
Well, that wingnut is already blaming the left for Jesse McBeth |
Julius Civitatus |
May-23-06 10:36 AM |
#273 |
| -
I agree with you - It has all the trappings of, well, a trap |
slackmaster |
May-23-06 11:02 AM |
#281 |
| -
And he has a rap sheet to boot: credit card fraud |
davepc |
May-23-06 09:50 AM |
#272 |
| -
He lives in Tacoma, Washington. That makes no sense. n/t |
progressivebydesign |
May-23-06 10:57 AM |
#277 |
| -
He's documented as being in Arizona |
davepc |
May-23-06 11:01 AM |
#280 |
| -
When I saw that Coffee Plantantion thing... I was suspicious. |
progressivebydesign |
May-23-06 11:08 AM |
#283 |
| -
IT IS VERY STUPID TO ANALYZE THIS IMAGE. IT'S A PICTURE OF A PHOTO |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 10:44 AM |
#275 |
| -
Then how do you explain all of the discrepancies that have nothing |
Ron Mexico |
May-23-06 11:01 AM |
#279 |
| -
and perhaps ron, you've answered your own questions |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 11:28 AM |
#285 |
| -
Macbeth works with IVAW in Tacoma, Washington. |
progressivebydesign |
May-23-06 11:01 AM |
#278 |
| -
it's been reported... |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 11:24 AM |
#284 |
| -
'reported" by who or what? DT of AZ? |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 12:23 PM |
#287 |
| -
by other DUers |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 01:27 PM |
#288 |
| -
LIES, PROPAGANDA OR WHATEVER they're arresting him for using free speech! |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 01:33 PM |
#290 |
| -
uh, no... |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 01:39 PM |
#291 |
| -
and appearance is everything in a "war of ideas," isn't it? |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 02:02 PM |
#293 |
| -
*plonk* |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 02:18 PM |
#295 |
| -
the video will be removed from peacefilms.org "ASAP" |
DTinAZ |
May-23-06 01:28 PM |
#289 |
| -
what a blitzkrieg hush job! |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 01:54 PM |
#292 |
| -
Works every time. (n/t) |
dailykoff |
May-23-06 02:16 PM |
#294 |
| -
so how much left wing propaganda can you kill in a week dailykoff? |
Jeffersons Ghost |
May-23-06 05:40 PM |
#297 |
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If only RW propaganda got this kind of scrutiny |
dailykoff |
May-23-06 10:57 PM |
#299 |
| -
Right. We should just accept whatever lies support our world view. |
tabasco |
May-23-06 11:23 PM |
#301 |
| -
Unfortunately he isn't lying |
dailykoff |
May-23-06 11:35 PM |
#303 |
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exactly! Its the truthiness of what he says! |
davepc |
May-24-06 12:04 AM |
#304 |
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You are ABSOLUTELY correct. His story is fake but it is also |
deaniac21 |
May-24-06 09:57 AM |
#306 |
| -
No, it's not a fashion show. |
Bouncy Ball |
May-24-06 07:53 PM |
#308 |
| -
So you think it is "left wing propaganda" to lie about war crimes. |
tabasco |
May-23-06 11:26 PM |
#302 |
| -
Thanks! |
wicket |
May-23-06 04:59 PM |
#296 |
| -
IVAW Statement on MacBeth Video |
LibertyorDeath |
May-23-06 10:17 PM |
#298 |
| -
Fascinating thread. |
Bouncy Ball |
May-23-06 11:04 PM |
#300 |
| -
Thank you Bouncy wise words |
LibertyorDeath |
May-24-06 12:26 AM |
#305 |
| -
Now What? |
Iblis |
May-24-06 12:43 PM |
#307 |
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Mr. MacBeth has a forged DD-214. |
BikeWriter |
May-27-06 12:20 PM |
#310 |
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Man who bragged of murdering Iraqis debunked by Army |
BikeWriter |
May-27-06 12:52 PM |
#311 |
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54 VOTES FOR A FUCKING LIE! That fucking sucks! |
BikeWriter |
May-27-06 01:18 PM |
#312 |
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Locking |
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May-27-06 05:01 PM |
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