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Wed May-17-06 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #121 |
| 122. Two is Good, but Three or more is optimal... n/t |
| - Will Pitt and Mark Ash of TruthOut--- do I trust their judgment? |
trumad |
May-16-06 06:22 PM |
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I am willing to believe this story until there is reason not to. |
MrsGrumpy |
May-16-06 06:24 PM |
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I trust them more than the corporate media |
JNelson6563 |
May-16-06 06:25 PM |
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If there were reason to retract this story, TO would do so. |
benburch |
May-16-06 06:26 PM |
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I'm with the Truth-out! |
liberalnurse |
May-16-06 06:27 PM |
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How many times have they been right vs. wrong? |
Steve_DeShazer |
May-16-06 06:28 PM |
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how many times? |
Snivi Yllom |
May-16-06 06:30 PM |
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Rove has fooled Dan Rather and CBS.... |
Junkdrawer |
May-16-06 06:29 PM |
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You're mistaking being fooled with being railroaded. Rather was.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-16-06 08:40 PM |
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I followed it closely...A true story was "salted" with a fake document. |
Junkdrawer |
May-16-06 08:49 PM |
#63 |
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Where did you learn conclusivly the document was a fake? |
Bandit |
May-17-06 11:12 AM |
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I found this convincing... |
Junkdrawer |
May-17-06 11:47 AM |
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I don't for a *second* believe that a wait-and-see skepticism.... |
BlooInBloo |
May-16-06 06:29 PM |
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24 business hours |
Kire |
May-16-06 10:20 PM |
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Well, there is this fact: |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 06:29 PM |
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That's your mantra, and you're stickin' to it. |
Maddy McCall |
May-16-06 06:37 PM |
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Damn right I am |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 06:38 PM |
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We at some point NEEDED Sonny Bono?? |
DancingBear |
May-16-06 06:41 PM |
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See? |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:07 PM |
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With just Cher. And that's tragic. |
Maddy McCall |
May-16-06 09:20 PM |
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Of course not |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:23 PM |
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I miss Dean Martin. |
Maddy McCall |
May-16-06 10:26 PM |
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So much for your credibility on this issue. Thanks for playing. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-16-06 08:42 PM |
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It's longer than Leopold's mantra. |
Kire |
May-16-06 10:23 PM |
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... |
Maddy McCall |
May-16-06 10:27 PM |
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Why so harsh? |
8_year_nightmare |
May-16-06 06:52 PM |
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You are confusing "harsh" with "direct" |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 07:04 PM |
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Why draw this whole issue out if you know the whereabouts of |
oregonjen |
May-16-06 09:00 PM |
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It's a matter of public record |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:06 PM |
#79 |
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"The way others have?" If they have, no one on DU seems to know |
oregonjen |
May-16-06 09:10 PM |
#82 |
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No one? |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:15 PM |
#87 |
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See, instead of proving your arguements, you turn to putting me down |
oregonjen |
May-16-06 09:25 PM |
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Do your own homework |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:28 PM |
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Exactly why you post a linky, linky |
oregonjen |
May-16-06 09:48 PM |
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the burden of proof is on you |
Kire |
May-16-06 10:33 PM |
#112 |
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"... burden of proof ..."? |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 10:54 PM |
#114 |
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You post flamebait... |
Kire |
May-16-06 11:40 PM |
#117 |
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Well, if you're a farmer, |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-17-06 06:18 AM |
#127 |
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Bitter much? |
Moochy |
May-16-06 09:44 PM |
#102 |
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Okay, would someone |
deansyawp |
May-17-06 12:24 AM |
#119 |
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"It's not my fault, It's not my fault" |
Kire |
May-16-06 10:25 PM |
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or that Rove sat in on the meetings with his secret service detail |
Halliburton |
May-16-06 08:35 PM |
#48 |
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Shhhhhhhh |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 08:46 PM |
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Just asking - |
Breeze54 |
May-16-06 09:40 PM |
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He doesn't even need to be indicted, |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 10:14 PM |
#105 |
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wow... |
Breeze54 |
May-16-06 10:58 PM |
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Did you hear Mr. Leopold on Ed Schultz ? |
BeatleBoot |
May-16-06 06:31 PM |
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HAHAHAHAHA! |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 06:34 PM |
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I don't have a stake in any of this... |
BeatleBoot |
May-16-06 06:39 PM |
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There is no indictment |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 06:43 PM |
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Repectfully, an ex-prosecutor friend of mine thinks TO could be right. |
benburch |
May-16-06 06:51 PM |
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Thank you for the definition of a "sealed indictment" |
BeatleBoot |
May-16-06 06:52 PM |
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It's pretty easy to find out |
DancingBear |
May-16-06 06:57 PM |
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Naw, |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 06:58 PM |
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Okeee-Dokeee |
BeatleBoot |
May-16-06 07:03 PM |
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You act like you've got enough for everyone. If you're so sure.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-16-06 08:44 PM |
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OLL, please tell me if I have this right... |
Sparkly |
May-16-06 06:53 PM |
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Too much like practicing law online, |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 07:00 PM |
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I understand. |
Sparkly |
May-16-06 07:21 PM |
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Why stop now? Haven't you been "practicing law online" since... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-16-06 08:50 PM |
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hehe....(nt) |
stepnw1f |
May-16-06 09:02 PM |
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Leopold has no common sense |
Halliburton |
May-16-06 09:10 PM |
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Leopold should be a comedian |
Halliburton |
May-16-06 08:47 PM |
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This isn't over yet and just because nothing has become |
Cleita |
May-16-06 06:33 PM |
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I gave him the benefit of the doubt until "24 business hours" |
tritsofme |
May-16-06 06:36 PM |
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BINGO! "Report" the OBVIOUS and hope for timing |
DisgustedTX |
May-16-06 07:22 PM |
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Succinct, |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 08:49 PM |
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Why Did They EDIT The Original Story? |
arwalden |
May-17-06 11:09 AM |
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Pitt has made his bones as a serious journalist |
Vinnie From Indy |
May-16-06 06:36 PM |
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alot more to the story...and Cheney is a big part of it |
katty |
May-16-06 06:37 PM |
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Could be...JL either connected to or manipulated by OVP. |
5X |
May-16-06 07:20 PM |
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Do I trust their judgment as opposed to someone in the MSM? |
Rex |
May-16-06 06:43 PM |
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I'm withholding judgement for the moment.... |
mike_c |
May-16-06 06:45 PM |
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Ditto. |
DesertedRose |
May-17-06 10:18 AM |
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Truthout, Leopold, Pitt, Ash and a woman from TO whose name I |
HereSince1628 |
May-16-06 06:52 PM |
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Like I said above--- |
trumad |
May-16-06 07:05 PM |
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Are We Through With The Circular Firing Squad Yet??? |
KharmaTrain |
May-16-06 07:07 PM |
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I still believe it......... |
tulsakatz |
May-16-06 07:09 PM |
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No, I do not trust their judgement. Trust must be earned. n/t |
Clarkie1 |
May-16-06 07:29 PM |
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Trust must be earned? |
trumad |
May-16-06 07:50 PM |
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Trust can't be earned |
Dunedain |
May-17-06 01:52 AM |
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Will stands behind the story, I am standing behind him |
Generic Other |
May-16-06 07:47 PM |
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I too stand with Will and Truthout.... |
Pachamama |
May-17-06 03:17 AM |
#126 |
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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you |
spokane |
May-16-06 07:50 PM |
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Interesting message. |
H2O Man |
May-16-06 08:03 PM |
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Libby>>>>Liddy?? lol |
Chomp |
May-16-06 08:34 PM |
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Yikes! |
H2O Man |
May-16-06 08:48 PM |
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Too funny...plus ca change...n/t |
Chomp |
May-16-06 09:04 PM |
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Sometimimes urge to "jump forward" overcomes the "stepping backward." |
KoKo01 |
May-16-06 09:22 PM |
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Merry Hoaxmas! |
meisje |
May-16-06 08:11 PM |
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LOL! |
Vinnie From Indy |
May-16-06 08:35 PM |
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Agree. I Posted An Innocent Sentiment Similar Last Night. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-16-06 08:22 PM |
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'the same tired ole handful of expected posters' |
Bluebear |
May-16-06 08:58 PM |
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Most Can Do So Without Being Labelled Such. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-16-06 10:14 PM |
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No problem here....happy to support them. K & R. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-16-06 08:36 PM |
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I have absolute faith in Will Pitt and T.O. and Dan Rather. ...n/t |
WiseButAngrySara |
May-16-06 08:37 PM |
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Has anyone heard from Mr. Pitt lately? |
kingofalldems |
May-16-06 08:42 PM |
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Its not nice to fool DUers. |
Jacobin |
May-16-06 08:46 PM |
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Incredible. So much hate, and life is so short. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-16-06 08:52 PM |
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Yes. its so much nicer and easier to |
Jacobin |
May-16-06 09:04 PM |
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Which reminds me.... |
Bluebear |
May-16-06 08:53 PM |
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Yes. I'm afraid I do |
Jacobin |
May-16-06 09:02 PM |
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Where did you find that photo??? I searched the nets thoroughly... |
Maddy McCall |
May-16-06 09:10 PM |
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She's all yours :) |
Bluebear |
May-16-06 09:13 PM |
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When I was a kid... |
Maddy McCall |
May-16-06 09:19 PM |
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Great...thanks for reminding me how old I am. |
DesertedRose |
May-17-06 10:24 AM |
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Trust is earned and it can be lost |
Jacobin |
May-16-06 08:45 PM |
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Ahem... |
Maddy McCall |
May-16-06 09:12 PM |
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What I don't understand ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-16-06 08:46 PM |
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Something happened on the way to the forum. |
0007 |
May-16-06 08:48 PM |
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I'm just glad they're on our side. |
madokie |
May-16-06 08:50 PM |
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I agree trumad |
Ksec |
May-16-06 08:51 PM |
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the Bottom Line |
garybeck |
May-16-06 08:57 PM |
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Well said! |
MelissaB |
May-16-06 08:58 PM |
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I'm with you. Don't know Jason, but I feel like... |
KAZ |
May-16-06 09:03 PM |
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Sometimes deals are made.... |
kentuck |
May-16-06 09:04 PM |
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I guarantee that's what Leopold will say |
Halliburton |
May-16-06 09:13 PM |
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This has happened before? |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:17 PM |
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how about the sealed indictment |
Halliburton |
May-16-06 09:44 PM |
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You don't 'make deals' |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:16 PM |
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Can they not change the timing of the announcement ? |
kentuck |
May-16-06 09:24 PM |
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I don't understand what you asked. |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:26 PM |
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Can the grand jury agree to announce an indictment at a later date? |
kentuck |
May-16-06 09:28 PM |
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They hand down the indictment |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 09:31 PM |
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You describe a country I once heard about.... |
Junkdrawer |
May-16-06 10:30 PM |
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I live in that country |
OldLeftieLawyer |
May-16-06 10:52 PM |
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LOL. Bush flaunts our most precious freedoms like most flaunt J walking... |
Junkdrawer |
May-16-06 11:31 PM |
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Touche |
canichelouis |
May-17-06 12:12 AM |
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I will stand behind them all the way |
Tulum_Moon |
May-17-06 01:05 AM |
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Bottom Line - Never Publish a Story w/o More Than One Source... n/t |
Peter Frank |
May-17-06 01:40 AM |
#121 |
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Two is Good, but Three or more is optimal... n/t |
Peter Frank |
May-17-06 01:43 AM |
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Didn't he have, like, five sources? n/t |
SeveneightyWhoa |
May-17-06 01:50 AM |
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From what I understand (and I could be wrong)... |
Peter Frank |
May-17-06 02:00 AM |
#125 |
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OK--the short answer is YES |
lapislzi |
May-17-06 06:21 AM |
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People need to be prepared for disappointments. Times are bad. |
gordianot |
May-17-06 09:45 AM |
#129 |
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There's a difference between a polemicist and a reporter. |
patcox2 |
May-17-06 10:05 AM |
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Excellent Observation. |
arwalden |
May-17-06 11:02 AM |
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I think they made the mistake of trying to scoop secret proceedings. |
Inland |
May-17-06 10:38 AM |
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I trust Pitt and Ash |
davekriss |
May-17-06 10:44 AM |
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Their judgment is now in question. |
Orsino |
May-17-06 10:51 AM |
#135 |
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this controversy has hurt Truthout's fund raising. Guys and Gals |
alfredo |
May-17-06 10:52 AM |
#136 |