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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:37 AM
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12. ES&S are just as bad as Diebold -
Edited on Tue May-16-06 11:38 AM by sparosnare
There were problems in my county in 2004 and in our primary a couple of months ago.
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  -I voted electronically for the first time today! hopein08  May-16-06 11:19 AM   #0 
  - ES&S likely disenfranchised me in 2004  Warpy   May-16-06 11:21 AM   #1 
  - ES&S are just as bad as Diebold -  sparosnare   May-16-06 11:37 AM   #12 
  - Been voting that way for awhile here in Texas,  RufusEarl   May-16-06 11:23 AM   #2 
  - Did you see a paper record made of your vote?  ramblin_dave   May-16-06 11:24 AM   #3 
  - Unfortunately, paper printouts don't do anything either. As a programmer,  sinkingfeeling   May-16-06 11:43 AM   #16 
  - Paper records are a necessity that must be followed up  ramblin_dave   May-16-06 11:57 AM   #21 
  - No paper record...PA law forbids it, I do believe  hopein08   May-16-06 11:44 AM   #17 
     - How the hell can they FORBID a paper record?  annabanana   May-16-06 06:57 PM   #29 
        - IIRC, the PA Constitution was interpreted that a paper record...  hopein08   May-17-06 11:31 AM   #33 
  - its the backend that hurts so bad.  bullimiami   May-16-06 11:25 AM   #4 
  - but how do we verify??  bcoylepa   May-16-06 11:25 AM   #5 
  - Sadly. however,...  reichstag911   May-16-06 11:25 AM   #6 
  - Even a 5-cent piece of bubble gum has a verifiable paper trail  CornField   May-16-06 11:26 AM   #7 
  - It's not the casting of the vote that's the problem, but the counting  Skidmore   May-16-06 11:27 AM   #8 
  - yes but  blogslut   May-16-06 11:29 AM   #9 
  - LOL - no you didn't - ROFL  BlooInBloo   May-16-06 11:31 AM   #10 
  - I'm sorry to hear that. Because we need people to understand  sfexpat2000   May-16-06 11:34 AM   #11 
  - I vote with ES&S machines too.  sparosnare   May-16-06 11:38 AM   #13 
  - so you have never  marions ghost   May-16-06 11:39 AM   #14 
  - But my question has always been...how do I know how my lever machine votes  hopein08   May-16-06 11:47 AM   #18 
     - Theoretically that's true, but  ramblin_dave   May-16-06 12:06 PM   #22 
     - there are lots  marions ghost   May-16-06 12:24 PM   #23 
  - Yes, they make it so easy and convenient to steal your vote  Canuckistanian   May-16-06 11:43 AM   #15 
  - Yep. An exercise in "feeling like you had your say"...  Junkdrawer   May-16-06 11:53 AM   #20 
  - Going out to vote now.  The Wielding Truth   May-16-06 11:51 AM   #19 
  - After the process of asking my name and my signing their book  The Wielding Truth   May-16-06 06:55 PM   #28 
  - IMO ES&S is worse then Diebold. It showed in FL in 04.  Stevepol   May-16-06 01:14 PM   #24 
  - Sit back and watch... one by one, Dem's will go down in Nov.  Rainscents   May-16-06 01:23 PM   #25 
  - The senior citizens in line in front of me  miss_american_pie   May-16-06 01:37 PM   #26 
  - Me, too, and I have questions  spinbaby   May-16-06 06:34 PM   #27 
  - Jim Jones' koolaid probably tasted just fine ...at first...:(  SoCalDem   May-16-06 06:58 PM   #30 
  - Good luck...I hope your vote counted.  Media_Lies_Daily   May-16-06 06:59 PM   #31 
  - Well, I hope the results are accurate! That's all. nt  SmokingJacket   May-16-06 07:02 PM   #32 
 

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