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Thu Jan-12-06 11:56 AM
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| 70. Is he SURPRISED? This Congress has been so anxiously handed |
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it's powers (and responsibilities) to the President over the last few years. Bush and his administration have advertised their tendency to dictatorship over and over again.
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| -SOS/HELP! *'s Lawyers argue no approval needed to invaded Iran- IMPORTANT |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:05 AM |
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Holy shit! If it's true that's what Fuckstick said - that just ratcheted |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-12-06 09:09 AM |
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"This administration's Lawyers argue that president has the right to goto |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:15 AM |
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whose army are we using? |
classic1 |
Jan-12-06 09:17 AM |
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No army needed - planes work better n/t |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:23 AM |
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The Pentagon has a scenario for attacking Iran - it goes like this: |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 09:56 AM |
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Hope your right |
rustydad |
Jan-12-06 10:02 AM |
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Lose-lose |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 10:06 AM |
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I know I saw your response on this in the other thread and thought |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 10:05 AM |
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The WH can't just snap it's fingers and tell the Joint Chiefs to bomb Iran |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 10:12 AM |
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That's why they call him Commander in Chief |
wtmusic |
Jan-12-06 10:19 AM |
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There's no imminent nuclear threat from Iran. Everyone knows it. |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 10:29 AM |
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they can rally the dumbed down masses in this country behind ANYTHING |
sweetm2475 |
Jan-12-06 07:13 PM |
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Even in 2003, there was NO imminent nuclear threat. |
tyedyeto |
Jan-12-06 09:56 PM |
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it looked to me like he was desperately trying to get a message out |
sweetm2475 |
Jan-12-06 07:10 PM |
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Iran has not even close to 17 million troops |
wtmusic |
Jan-12-06 10:17 AM |
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trying to get to the bottom of this here - could you source your numbers |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 10:22 AM |
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. |
wtmusic |
Jan-12-06 10:26 AM |
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I was wrong - make that 16 million |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 10:34 AM |
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There's a huge gap |
wtmusic |
Jan-12-06 10:40 AM |
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I don't know what to think anymore n/t |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 10:47 AM |
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I think your OP is right on the money |
wtmusic |
Jan-12-06 11:26 AM |
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News flash: we lost the Iraq war. |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 10:53 AM |
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If there were a ground invasion |
wtmusic |
Jan-12-06 11:17 AM |
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US forces inside Iraq are vulnerable. |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 11:41 AM |
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Very true |
wtmusic |
Jan-12-06 01:31 PM |
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By that same ridiculous standard |
NotThatNolan |
Jan-13-06 11:17 AM |
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Iranian missles CAN reach US targets.... |
bvar22 |
Jan-12-06 10:57 AM |
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and the regional HQ in Doha. |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 10:59 AM |
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accuracy questionable, value as a deterrent nil n/t |
wtmusic |
Jan-12-06 11:18 AM |
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Tell that to the troops on station. |
bvar22 |
Jan-12-06 11:27 AM |
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Every ship that transits the Straights faces close-in threats. |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 11:47 AM |
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question about the Oil thing what if we were to set up co-op agreement |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 12:14 PM |
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Sensible analysis, but there's a wild card in your equation: Israel. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-12-06 01:48 PM |
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I asked about Israel 2 times in your Redux thread. |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 01:56 PM |
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Did you see Syriana? |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-12-06 04:27 PM |
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There'll be a caretaker gov't for a while in Israel. |
leveymg |
Jan-12-06 02:19 PM |
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It's also part of the plan that during '06 elections to have the |
Auntie Bush |
Jan-12-06 03:52 PM |
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"What are we going to do, then? Occupy Iran? Nuke Iran?" The latter, IMO. |
eppur_se_muova |
Jan-13-06 08:18 AM |
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Welcome to DU |
wryter2000 |
Jan-12-06 11:16 AM |
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Well, then, I don't know |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-12-06 09:22 AM |
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VIDEO-compilation from Today Show and segment of Biden's questioning today |
liveoaktx |
Jan-12-06 12:12 PM |
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"Have Democrats Gone too far"? |
leftchick |
Jan-12-06 12:15 PM |
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HOLT SH*T K&R, THANKS!!!!!nt |
sweetm2475 |
Jan-12-06 04:20 PM |
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Have they ever read the US Constitution? |
Pharaoh |
Jan-15-06 10:14 AM |
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Without Congress, though |
Habibi |
Jan-12-06 09:16 AM |
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Is YOUR congresscritter going to vote to cut off supplies... |
JHB |
Jan-12-06 09:25 AM |
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he'll use all that $ that 'disappeared' in iraq. |
ellenfl |
Jan-12-06 12:22 PM |
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The sad part is, no one in the MSM thinks this is newsworthy |
hedgehog |
Jan-12-06 09:17 AM |
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Both I think |
RufusEarl |
Jan-12-06 09:19 AM |
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I'm flabbergasted that Katie didn't even bother to question Biden on this |
wordpix |
Jan-12-06 11:25 AM |
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Frogs is what I've always heard. |
raccoon |
Jan-12-06 11:31 AM |
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bushit is going to bomb iran, soon |
emald |
Jan-12-06 09:19 AM |
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the point is there seems to be an argument going on between the Congress |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:22 AM |
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it wont be us |
reelcobra |
Jan-12-06 09:22 AM |
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Welcome to DU |
wryter2000 |
Jan-12-06 11:18 AM |
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Biden is discussing this now - omg! |
Glimmer of Hope |
Jan-12-06 09:21 AM |
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Professor Yoo's Book |
ClayZ |
Jan-12-06 09:29 AM |
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First thing Biden's said in a long time that matters |
txindy |
Jan-12-06 09:26 AM |
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what did you think of the clip, stb? |
soonerhoosier |
Jan-12-06 09:26 AM |
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It just sounds like there is an argument going on between Congress and the |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:30 AM |
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Alito did not answer the question ,do you believe |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-12-06 09:29 AM |
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Right. That was Biden's point. |
soonerhoosier |
Jan-12-06 09:31 AM |
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they already started a war of agression - Iraq - however it sounds like |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:32 AM |
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AFAIC, Alito did not answer any questions. He was evasive all the way. |
Straight Shooter |
Jan-12-06 09:34 AM |
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in fact, he DID answer the questions . . . by his evasions. |
ellenfl |
Jan-12-06 12:24 PM |
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What's important is what's on the record. Deductions don't matter. |
Straight Shooter |
Jan-12-06 12:41 PM |
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but you can sure see what his stand is on those |
ellenfl |
Jan-12-06 08:14 PM |
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Ben Nelson (D) says he saw nothing that would disqualify Alito. |
Straight Shooter |
Jan-12-06 10:47 PM |
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this thread located here in GD also ties directly with this. Please People |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:39 AM |
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. |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:47 AM |
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come on people!!! n/t |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:52 AM |
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somebody could call Biden's office |
soonerhoosier |
Jan-12-06 09:57 AM |
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our next move is to flood the media-tv,newspaper,talk radio |
w8liftinglady |
Jan-12-06 09:56 AM |
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that is why I am trying create awareness here at DU - I should have had |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 09:58 AM |
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hey-I've got your back-I'm writing all the usuals as we speak |
w8liftinglady |
Jan-12-06 10:01 AM |
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Since when is it that a presidents' personal lawyer makes the rules? |
rman |
Jan-12-06 09:58 AM |
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(already knew this: they have argued that they don't need to get authoriza |
jsamuel |
Jan-12-06 10:02 AM |
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VIDEO of what Rice told Congress a couple of months ago |
liveoaktx |
Jan-12-06 10:03 AM |
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let's see if we can find corroboration |
w8liftinglady |
Jan-12-06 10:23 AM |
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Thank you for your help and think people are working on it up thread |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 10:56 AM |
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They've been saying this since IWR. Iran and Syria were OFF the table |
blm |
Jan-12-06 10:32 AM |
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Joe Biden can't be trusted when he gets in front of a camera. |
bvar22 |
Jan-12-06 11:03 AM |
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Actually what he said |
H2O Man |
Jan-12-06 11:14 AM |
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Thank you - now I know I am not nutz - at least about this n/t |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 11:20 AM |
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No, |
bvar22 |
Jan-12-06 11:23 AM |
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how is what he said no believable??? |
LSK |
Jan-12-06 11:49 AM |
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I agree, Biden saying WH prepared to attack Iran w/o consulting Congress |
wordpix |
Jan-12-06 11:27 AM |
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wordpix you get all of the "props" on this, it was your heads in the LBN |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 11:29 AM |
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OK, let AWOL fly the plane that drops the first bomb on Iran. nt |
satya |
Jan-12-06 11:21 AM |
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Well he breaks ALL the rules and laws now doesn't he? Had enough |
lonestarnot |
Jan-12-06 11:24 AM |
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Is he SURPRISED? This Congress has been so anxiously handed |
Marr |
Jan-12-06 11:56 AM |
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WAR POWERS in the Constitution |
SlipperySlope |
Jan-12-06 12:03 PM |
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thanks for the enlightening, yet depressing, post. |
Lerkfish |
Jan-12-06 12:23 PM |
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To a "strict constructionist", the prez is not the commander of the Air |
satya |
Jan-12-06 01:25 PM |
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good post nt |
w8liftinglady |
Jan-12-06 01:34 PM |
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I think Biden said it twice for people like me. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-12-06 12:43 PM |
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I am glad you made it - there is some intense discussions on this |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 12:56 PM |
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And Seymour Hersh has been reporting on this for about a year. n/t |
Emit |
Jan-12-06 01:10 PM |
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I heard him speak last March. He said commando squads had been in Iran |
Roland99 |
Jan-12-06 01:42 PM |
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Lucky you! I 'd love to see Hersh talk. |
Emit |
Jan-12-06 03:01 PM |
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Read all about it here >>>>> |
Roland99 |
Jan-12-06 03:10 PM |
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interesting read, especially the questioning of the veracity of his |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-12-06 03:26 PM |
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Last thing I specifically recall was the article you posted. |
Roland99 |
Jan-12-06 04:15 PM |
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No he doesn't! There was a thread a few days ago (Kerry's speech in 10/02) |
Roland99 |
Jan-12-06 12:46 PM |
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Keep an eye out for this term: unitary executive |
Emit |
Jan-12-06 02:33 PM |
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Brain fried, but someone did ask him about that yesterday afternoon |
liveoaktx |
Jan-12-06 02:34 PM |
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Maybe it was Kennedy you saw |
Emit |
Jan-12-06 02:44 PM |
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does she even realize WTF he is saying????????? |
sweetm2475 |
Jan-12-06 04:25 PM |
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Frightening. Utterly frightening. They ignore law. |
spanone |
Jan-12-06 04:29 PM |
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I hate Couric ...What a freaking tool!!! |
insane_cratic_gal |
Jan-12-06 04:35 PM |
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So, we're just going to wake up one morning and be at war |
long_green |
Jan-12-06 04:43 PM |
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I have no idea what to think but I pray to God that leveymg is correct! nt |
glitch |
Jan-12-06 05:38 PM |
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Yak! I just had the time to finally watch the video |
Emit |
Jan-12-06 06:37 PM |
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I know this isn't the point of the thread, but |
Emit |
Jan-12-06 08:47 PM |
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Thank you for doing that. |
nicknameless |
Jan-12-06 09:46 PM |
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So * is planning yet ANOTHER violation of the Constitution & his Oath |
nicknameless |
Jan-12-06 09:53 PM |
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If memory serves me correct, that language is in the Patriot Act..... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jan-12-06 10:09 PM |
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See this thread...possibility of a SURPRISE tactical nuke attack... |
Gloria |
Jan-12-06 10:49 PM |
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Biden said the same in the Alito Hearings today 1/12 when asking questions |
Pachamama |
Jan-13-06 04:59 AM |
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It's funny you mention Syria |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-13-06 08:22 AM |
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Regarding this whole attack Iran thing |
pointblank |
Jan-13-06 11:51 AM |
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Condolezza Rice has said as much |
Marie26 |
Jan-13-06 12:00 PM |
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Thank you this shows the WH Lawyers are fulfilling what the WHIG wants |
stop the bleeding |
Jan-13-06 12:24 PM |
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Yes he can. |
dutchdemocrat |
Jan-13-06 01:07 PM |
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Well why not they warred on Pakistan just a couple of days ago. |
lonestarnot |
Jan-15-06 10:15 AM |
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