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SOS/HELP! *'s Lawyers argue no approval needed to invaded Iran- IMPORTANT
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Edited on Thu Jan-12-06 09:57 AM by stop the bleeding
Biden tells Couric 2X's that Bush and his lawyers have argued that they have the authority to declare war on Iran without telling Congress. That should be alarming enough.

He quoted this 2X's and sounded like this has been on going argument between the WH and the Senate/House

"This administration's Lawyers argue that president has the right to goto war in Iran, tomorrow without even telling the US Congress, that is what they argue Katie" this was said the second time.



The "tomorrow" part was hypothetical.

War authority & Iran... not so hypothetical.

BTW, you can watch the video. I can't link to it, but go to the Today Show/MSNBC page here: http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?, enter "Biden" in the MSNBC Video Search box & it'll be the first one.


This fact that the administration has argued this and Biden has used this interview to state it 2X's is super alarming to anyone with a pulse.

We all know they want regime change in the Iran and the Middle East and it is not a question of when -

The question is how and under who's authority.

Congress is the voice of the people.

Chilling is an understatement, if this went down it would throw the Middle East in a downward spiral and from there the WH could overide ALL LAW and therefore America descends even further down the rabbit hole taking whatever profit and countries with them. Sorry if this is too much :tinfoilhat:
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  -SOS/HELP! *'s Lawyers argue no approval needed to invaded Iran- IMPORTANT stop the bleeding  Jan-12-06 09:05 AM   #0 
  - Holy shit! If it's true that's what Fuckstick said - that just ratcheted  Rabrrrrrr   Jan-12-06 09:09 AM   #1 
  - "This administration's Lawyers argue that president has the right to goto  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:15 AM   #2 
     - whose army are we using?  classic1   Jan-12-06 09:17 AM   #4 
     - No army needed - planes work better n/t  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:23 AM   #12 
     - The Pentagon has a scenario for attacking Iran - it goes like this:  leveymg   Jan-12-06 09:56 AM   #26 
        - Hope your right  rustydad   Jan-12-06 10:02 AM   #32 
        - Lose-lose  leveymg   Jan-12-06 10:06 AM   #35 
        - I know I saw your response on this in the other thread and thought  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 10:05 AM   #34 
        - The WH can't just snap it's fingers and tell the Joint Chiefs to bomb Iran  leveymg   Jan-12-06 10:12 AM   #36 
        - That's why they call him Commander in Chief  wtmusic   Jan-12-06 10:19 AM   #38 
           - There's no imminent nuclear threat from Iran. Everyone knows it.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 10:29 AM   #42 
              - they can rally the dumbed down masses in this country behind ANYTHING  sweetm2475   Jan-12-06 07:13 PM   #107 
              - Even in 2003, there was NO imminent nuclear threat.  tyedyeto   Jan-12-06 09:56 PM   #112 
        - it looked to me like he was desperately trying to get a message out  sweetm2475   Jan-12-06 07:10 PM   #106 
        - Iran has not even close to 17 million troops  wtmusic   Jan-12-06 10:17 AM   #37 
        - trying to get to the bottom of this here - could you source your numbers  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 10:22 AM   #39 
        - .  wtmusic   Jan-12-06 10:26 AM   #41 
        - I was wrong - make that 16 million  leveymg   Jan-12-06 10:34 AM   #44 
        - There's a huge gap  wtmusic   Jan-12-06 10:40 AM   #45 
        - I don't know what to think anymore n/t  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 10:47 AM   #46 
        - I think your OP is right on the money  wtmusic   Jan-12-06 11:26 AM   #62 
        - News flash: we lost the Iraq war.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 10:53 AM   #47 
           - If there were a ground invasion  wtmusic   Jan-12-06 11:17 AM   #54 
              - US forces inside Iraq are vulnerable.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 11:41 AM   #67 
                 - Very true  wtmusic   Jan-12-06 01:31 PM   #84 
        - By that same ridiculous standard  NotThatNolan   Jan-13-06 11:17 AM   #119 
        - Iranian missles CAN reach US targets....  bvar22   Jan-12-06 10:57 AM   #49 
           - and the regional HQ in Doha.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 10:59 AM   #50 
           - accuracy questionable, value as a deterrent nil n/t  wtmusic   Jan-12-06 11:18 AM   #56 
              - Tell that to the troops on station.  bvar22   Jan-12-06 11:27 AM   #64 
                 - Every ship that transits the Straights faces close-in threats.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 11:47 AM   #68 
                    - question about the Oil thing what if we were to set up co-op agreement  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 12:14 PM   #73 
        - Sensible analysis, but there's a wild card in your equation: Israel.  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 01:48 PM   #87 
        - I asked about Israel 2 times in your Redux thread.  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 01:56 PM   #88 
        - Did you see Syriana?  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 04:27 PM   #100 
        - There'll be a caretaker gov't for a while in Israel.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 02:19 PM   #89 
        - It's also part of the plan that during '06 elections to have the  Auntie Bush   Jan-12-06 03:52 PM   #96 
        - "What are we going to do, then? Occupy Iran? Nuke Iran?" The latter, IMO.  eppur_se_muova   Jan-13-06 08:18 AM   #117 
     - Welcome to DU  wryter2000   Jan-12-06 11:16 AM   #53 
     - Well, then, I don't know  liberalhistorian   Jan-12-06 09:22 AM   #11 
     - VIDEO-compilation from Today Show and segment of Biden's questioning today  liveoaktx   Jan-12-06 12:12 PM   #72 
     - "Have Democrats Gone too far"?  leftchick   Jan-12-06 12:15 PM   #74 
     - HOLT SH*T K&R, THANKS!!!!!nt  sweetm2475   Jan-12-06 04:20 PM   #98 
     - Have they ever read the US Constitution?  Pharaoh   Jan-15-06 10:14 AM   #124 
  - Without Congress, though  Habibi   Jan-12-06 09:16 AM   #3 
  - Is YOUR congresscritter going to vote to cut off supplies...  JHB   Jan-12-06 09:25 AM   #13 
  - he'll use all that $ that 'disappeared' in iraq.  ellenfl   Jan-12-06 12:22 PM   #75 
  - The sad part is, no one in the MSM thinks this is newsworthy  hedgehog   Jan-12-06 09:17 AM   #5 
  - Both I think  RufusEarl   Jan-12-06 09:19 AM   #7 
  - I'm flabbergasted that Katie didn't even bother to question Biden on this  wordpix   Jan-12-06 11:25 AM   #61 
  - Frogs is what I've always heard.  raccoon   Jan-12-06 11:31 AM   #66 
  - bushit is going to bomb iran, soon  emald   Jan-12-06 09:19 AM   #6 
  - the point is there seems to be an argument going on between the Congress  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:22 AM   #9 
  - it wont be us  reelcobra   Jan-12-06 09:22 AM   #10 
     - Welcome to DU  wryter2000   Jan-12-06 11:18 AM   #55 
  - Biden is discussing this now - omg!  Glimmer of Hope   Jan-12-06 09:21 AM   #8 
  - Professor Yoo's Book  ClayZ   Jan-12-06 09:29 AM   #17 
  - First thing Biden's said in a long time that matters  txindy   Jan-12-06 09:26 AM   #14 
  - what did you think of the clip, stb?  soonerhoosier   Jan-12-06 09:26 AM   #15 
  - It just sounds like there is an argument going on between Congress and the  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:30 AM   #18 
  - Alito did not answer the question ,do you believe  sfexpat2000   Jan-12-06 09:29 AM   #16 
  - Right. That was Biden's point.  soonerhoosier   Jan-12-06 09:31 AM   #19 
  - they already started a war of agression - Iraq - however it sounds like  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:32 AM   #20 
  - AFAIC, Alito did not answer any questions. He was evasive all the way.  Straight Shooter   Jan-12-06 09:34 AM   #21 
     - in fact, he DID answer the questions . . . by his evasions.  ellenfl   Jan-12-06 12:24 PM   #77 
        - What's important is what's on the record. Deductions don't matter.  Straight Shooter   Jan-12-06 12:41 PM   #78 
        - but you can sure see what his stand is on those  ellenfl   Jan-12-06 08:14 PM   #108 
        - Ben Nelson (D) says he saw nothing that would disqualify Alito.  Straight Shooter   Jan-12-06 10:47 PM   #114 
  - this thread located here in GD also ties directly with this. Please People  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:39 AM   #22 
  - .  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:47 AM   #23 
     - come on people!!! n/t  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:52 AM   #24 
        - somebody could call Biden's office  soonerhoosier   Jan-12-06 09:57 AM   #27 
  - our next move is to flood the media-tv,newspaper,talk radio  w8liftinglady   Jan-12-06 09:56 AM   #25 
  - that is why I am trying create awareness here at DU - I should have had  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:58 AM   #29 
     - hey-I've got your back-I'm writing all the usuals as we speak  w8liftinglady   Jan-12-06 10:01 AM   #30 
  - Since when is it that a presidents' personal lawyer makes the rules?  rman   Jan-12-06 09:58 AM   #28 
  - (already knew this: they have argued that they don't need to get authoriza  jsamuel   Jan-12-06 10:02 AM   #31 
  - VIDEO of what Rice told Congress a couple of months ago  liveoaktx   Jan-12-06 10:03 AM   #33 
  - let's see if we can find corroboration  w8liftinglady   Jan-12-06 10:23 AM   #40 
  - Thank you for your help and think people are working on it up thread  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 10:56 AM   #48 
  - They've been saying this since IWR. Iran and Syria were OFF the table  blm   Jan-12-06 10:32 AM   #43 
  - Joe Biden can't be trusted when he gets in front of a camera.  bvar22   Jan-12-06 11:03 AM   #51 
  - Actually what he said  H2O Man   Jan-12-06 11:14 AM   #52 
     - Thank you - now I know I am not nutz - at least about this n/t  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 11:20 AM   #57 
     - No,  bvar22   Jan-12-06 11:23 AM   #59 
     - how is what he said no believable???  LSK   Jan-12-06 11:49 AM   #69 
     - I agree, Biden saying WH prepared to attack Iran w/o consulting Congress  wordpix   Jan-12-06 11:27 AM   #63 
        - wordpix you get all of the "props" on this, it was your heads in the LBN  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 11:29 AM   #65 
  - OK, let AWOL fly the plane that drops the first bomb on Iran. nt  satya   Jan-12-06 11:21 AM   #58 
  - Well he breaks ALL the rules and laws now doesn't he? Had enough  lonestarnot   Jan-12-06 11:24 AM   #60 
  - Is he SURPRISED? This Congress has been so anxiously handed  Marr   Jan-12-06 11:56 AM   #70 
  - WAR POWERS in the Constitution  SlipperySlope   Jan-12-06 12:03 PM   #71 
  - thanks for the enlightening, yet depressing, post.  Lerkfish   Jan-12-06 12:23 PM   #76 
  - To a "strict constructionist", the prez is not the commander of the Air  satya   Jan-12-06 01:25 PM   #83 
  - good post nt  w8liftinglady   Jan-12-06 01:34 PM   #85 
  - I think Biden said it twice for people like me.  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 12:43 PM   #79 
  - I am glad you made it - there is some intense discussions on this  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 12:56 PM   #81 
  - And Seymour Hersh has been reporting on this for about a year. n/t  Emit   Jan-12-06 01:10 PM   #82 
     - I heard him speak last March. He said commando squads had been in Iran  Roland99   Jan-12-06 01:42 PM   #86 
        - Lucky you! I 'd love to see Hersh talk.  Emit   Jan-12-06 03:01 PM   #93 
           - Read all about it here >>>>>  Roland99   Jan-12-06 03:10 PM   #94 
              - interesting read, especially the questioning of the veracity of his  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 03:26 PM   #95 
                 - Last thing I specifically recall was the article you posted.  Roland99   Jan-12-06 04:15 PM   #97 
  - No he doesn't! There was a thread a few days ago (Kerry's speech in 10/02)  Roland99   Jan-12-06 12:46 PM   #80 
  - Keep an eye out for this term: unitary executive  Emit   Jan-12-06 02:33 PM   #90 
  - Brain fried, but someone did ask him about that yesterday afternoon  liveoaktx   Jan-12-06 02:34 PM   #91 
     - Maybe it was Kennedy you saw  Emit   Jan-12-06 02:44 PM   #92 
  - does she even realize WTF he is saying?????????  sweetm2475   Jan-12-06 04:25 PM   #99 
  - Frightening. Utterly frightening. They ignore law.  spanone   Jan-12-06 04:29 PM   #101 
  - I hate Couric ...What a freaking tool!!!  insane_cratic_gal   Jan-12-06 04:35 PM   #102 
  - So, we're just going to wake up one morning and be at war  long_green   Jan-12-06 04:43 PM   #103 
  - I have no idea what to think but I pray to God that leveymg is correct! nt  glitch   Jan-12-06 05:38 PM   #104 
  - Yak! I just had the time to finally watch the video  Emit   Jan-12-06 06:37 PM   #105 
  - I know this isn't the point of the thread, but  Emit   Jan-12-06 08:47 PM   #109 
  - Thank you for doing that.  nicknameless   Jan-12-06 09:46 PM   #110 
  - So * is planning yet ANOTHER violation of the Constitution & his Oath  nicknameless   Jan-12-06 09:53 PM   #111 
  - If memory serves me correct, that language is in the Patriot Act.....  Media_Lies_Daily   Jan-12-06 10:09 PM   #113 
  - See this thread...possibility of a SURPRISE tactical nuke attack...  Gloria   Jan-12-06 10:49 PM   #115 
  - Biden said the same in the Alito Hearings today 1/12 when asking questions  Pachamama   Jan-13-06 04:59 AM   #116 
  - It's funny you mention Syria  stop the bleeding   Jan-13-06 08:22 AM   #118 
  - Regarding this whole attack Iran thing  pointblank   Jan-13-06 11:51 AM   #120 
  - Condolezza Rice has said as much  Marie26   Jan-13-06 12:00 PM   #121 
  - Thank you this shows the WH Lawyers are fulfilling what the WHIG wants  stop the bleeding   Jan-13-06 12:24 PM   #122 
  - Yes he can.  dutchdemocrat   Jan-13-06 01:07 PM   #123 
  - Well why not they warred on Pakistan just a couple of days ago.  lonestarnot   Jan-15-06 10:15 AM   #125 
 

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