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deFaultLine Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 04:27 PM
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79. wow
Edited on Tue May-09-06 04:31 PM by deFaultLine
I have been having difficulty in dealing with Sallie Mae, I'm in grad school and have tried to stay in communication with them regarding deferments until I can complete my degree. Thus far I have to give them and F for competence. I have faxed them forms and have had them lose them or have been given the wrong number and several other excuses/obfuscations about what happened to my forms.

I still don't live and extravagant lifestyle and as an undergrad I lived very frugally, I worked at jobs and had other financial aid to help. Despite this, I had to take out loans to help pay for school and it got worse when some clerical errors were made that prevented me from receiving a full package during some periods of my undergrad career. I simply took out a loan when I could not pay for tuition in any other way.

Going out to for dinner, seeing movies or even drinking espressos was/is out of the question and despite my cost cutting efforts, I had to take out loans just to make ends meet and pay for the skyrocketing costs of school. (Which I may add got considerably worse since 2001.)

Now I find out that I've essentially signed over my life to a government subsidized loan shark...

The interest is outrageous, I have a hard time believing that a government subsidized organization is charging this much in fees and interest.

I would also say it's inaccurate for anyone to say that students are just blowing loan money on frivolous expenditures. The cost of education and housing are just too high to blithely pass off loan debt as poor planning by students. Consider the time and effort to become an engineer...it's not easy and the time it takes to study precludes taking a full-time job to pay for school. You end up either getting a loan or finding an easy major like business that allows you to spend a minimal amount of time studying and more on a job to pay for school.

If you are considering using a loan to pay for school... don't.
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  -60 Minutes covering student loan (SALLIE MAE) collection abuses tonight quiet.american  May-07-06 02:23 PM   #0 
  - Their executives are insanely overcompensated.  faygokid   May-07-06 02:25 PM   #1 
  - More on this, check this out --  quiet.american   May-07-06 02:28 PM   #2 
     - Thanks. Remember when the media might have made this front page?  faygokid   May-07-06 02:35 PM   #5 
        - You're right, I couldn't remember!  quiet.american   May-07-06 03:02 PM   #17 
  - Durbin to introduce bill: Reverse the Raid on Student Aid  Us vs Them   May-07-06 02:31 PM   # 
  - Does his legislation address the accreditation issue?  greyhound1966   May-07-06 02:38 PM   #7 
  - Touche'  deFaultLine   May-11-06 11:32 AM   #85 
  - Thanks for the reminder -- photos of students "storming" Boehner's office  quiet.american   May-07-06 02:38 PM   #8 
  - You should post this in the Missouri forum.  cornermouse   May-07-06 02:31 PM   #3 
  - Well, Show Me!  faygokid   May-07-06 02:41 PM   #10 
  - That's bad news, SALLIE MAE is trying to become Microsoft of student loans  quiet.american   May-07-06 02:52 PM   #13 
     - hold on now  deFaultLine   May-11-06 11:24 AM   #84 
  - Yikes. I have an $11K loan. K&R  gulfcoastliberal   May-07-06 02:32 PM   #4 
  - Whatever you do, watch it like a hawk and don't let it default! n/t  quiet.american   May-07-06 02:47 PM   #12 
  - Pay it off now!  deFaultLine   May-10-06 10:35 AM   #80 
  - If this issue ever gain traction, I advocate a general strike against them  greyhound1966   May-07-06 02:36 PM   #6 
  - Not a bad idea! n/t  quiet.american   May-07-06 02:41 PM   #9 
  - Isn't that when collection agencies turn into repo men?  derby378   May-07-06 04:54 PM   #37 
     - Not if you now how to play the game.  greyhound1966   May-08-06 06:47 PM   #78 
     - Yep, not a good idea.  TX-RAT   May-10-06 10:56 AM   #81 
  - Yikes! I need to watch this  pdxbecca   May-07-06 02:46 PM   #11 
  - Debt collectrolls are SCUM!  liberalhistorian   May-07-06 02:52 PM   #14 
  - Yeah, I'm one of those turnips they are bloodletting  HeeBGBz   May-07-06 02:52 PM   #15 
  - Exactly, HeeBGBz! There's no coherent paper trail.  quiet.american   May-07-06 02:57 PM   #16 
     - It's gotten to the point that I HAVE to be a waitress now  HeeBGBz   May-07-06 03:10 PM   #19 
        - O.M.G. -- that is scary. And wrong. O.M.G. n/t  quiet.american   May-07-06 03:29 PM   #21 
  - Will watch, thanks  incapsulated   May-07-06 03:04 PM   #18 
  - I used to work for them as a contract programmer  suziedemocrat   May-07-06 03:24 PM   #20 
  - Aaargh. Just.... arrgh. n/t  quiet.american   May-07-06 03:30 PM   #22 
  - OK,I give up ! Why shouldn't someone pay back a loan on time?  GrumpyGreg   May-07-06 04:26 PM   #23 
  - In an ideal world. Things happen and SALLIE MAE compounds the problem.  quiet.american   May-07-06 04:31 PM   #25 
  - It sounds like The Austins don't understand how credit works  high density   May-07-06 04:39 PM   #29 
     - This is not an isolated case.  quiet.american   May-07-06 04:44 PM   #31 
  - Not everyone is the perfect angel you are, dear. Some people make  Thtwudbeme   May-07-06 04:31 PM   #26 
  - I'm convinced they want a permanent underclass of near indentured servants  suziedemocrat   May-07-06 05:18 PM   #45 
     - You're not the only one, too. Check this out from 2004 --  quiet.american   May-07-06 05:37 PM   #49 
  - Because banks are supposed to lend money for nothing?  high density   May-07-06 04:36 PM   #27 
  - Not everyone's life goes like clockwork.  quiet.american   May-07-06 04:41 PM   #30 
     - That's why you talk to them before it goes into default  high density   May-07-06 04:47 PM   #32 
        - And sometimes it's not enough  sandnsea   May-07-06 04:54 PM   #36 
        - right  high density   May-07-06 05:15 PM   #44 
           - And so what  sandnsea   May-07-06 05:28 PM   #47 
           - "Most people have no problem managing their credit." Huh?  quiet.american   May-07-06 05:29 PM   #48 
              - OK so out of 200 million adults in the USA...  high density   May-07-06 05:46 PM   #50 
                 - I think you've made a wrong assumption.  quiet.american   May-07-06 06:04 PM   #52 
        - Forget the website, it does not apply when you are in default.  quiet.american   May-07-06 04:56 PM   #38 
  - OK - I give up - why would someone have an unwanted pregnancy?  suziedemocrat   May-07-06 07:10 PM   #53 
  - Have you ever heard of personal responsibilty?  GrumpyGreg   May-07-06 10:19 PM   #55 
  - You may have answered your own objection to  annabanana   May-08-06 05:01 AM   #59 
  - Funny how that works.  TX-RAT   May-10-06 11:00 AM   #82 
  - Not condoning abusive collection practices  PsN2Wind   May-07-06 04:29 PM   #24 
  - Please visit SLJ's site and read some of the stories.  quiet.american   May-07-06 04:38 PM   #28 
  - My only point was  PsN2Wind   May-07-06 04:49 PM   #33 
  - There are many improvements to be made and that could be one.  quiet.american   May-07-06 05:01 PM   #41 
  - Just feelin' the love  sandnsea   May-07-06 04:50 PM   #34 
     - :) :) :)  quiet.american   May-07-06 05:15 PM   #43 
  - That's really not quite accurate.  cornermouse   May-07-06 04:50 PM   #35 
  - Especially not now  sandnsea   May-07-06 04:58 PM   #39 
     - I agree.  cornermouse   May-07-06 05:06 PM   #42 
     - Not only that, but today's graduates, often...  girl gone mad   May-08-06 04:51 AM   #58 
  - You're right. Loans for education are bad.  HypnoToad   May-07-06 04:59 PM   #40 
  - I read about a case  thethinker   May-07-06 05:20 PM   #46 
  - 60 Minutes on now. n/t  quiet.american   May-07-06 06:01 PM   #51 
  - Alan's story is the best  serryjw   May-07-06 09:50 PM   #54 
  - This is what's most objectionable.  quiet.american   May-08-06 08:44 AM   #66 
  - Woman with $260,000 in college debt?!!  Xap   May-07-06 11:22 PM   #56 
  - Hello! And her major is film school? She'd better sell a script fast!  quiet.american   May-08-06 08:41 AM   #64 
  - Add outsourcing to this mix ….  Bushknew   May-08-06 01:11 AM   #57 
  - Because their dream is our nightmare.  quiet.american   May-08-06 08:43 AM   #65 
  - K & R...  Peter Frank   May-08-06 05:01 AM   #60 
  - Good question.  quiet.american   May-08-06 08:48 AM   #68 
     - Yeah - "No Financial Guild Left Behind"...  Peter Frank   May-08-06 02:09 PM   #76 
  - Good loan program  Chalco   May-08-06 08:06 AM   #61 
  - Hi Chalco -- it was the "Direct Loan Program."  quiet.american   May-08-06 08:45 AM   #67 
     - Thanks, mucho! nt  Chalco   May-08-06 10:53 AM   #70 
  - I've communicated with both NH senators  BigMcLargehuge   May-08-06 08:13 AM   #62 
  - Thanks, Big, this is just what we all need to do.  quiet.american   May-08-06 08:39 AM   #63 
  - I'm a big proponent..  sendero   May-08-06 08:53 AM   #69 
  - I'm Fed Up and Want to DO Something About It  stepnw1f   May-08-06 11:01 AM   #71 
  - Thank you thank you thank you! I missed the previous post, really glad to  eppur_se_muova   May-08-06 11:39 AM   #72 
  - Howdy, Eppur -- you can still watch the video here --  quiet.american   May-08-06 12:14 PM   #73 
     - Well, double thanks for the links! nt  eppur_se_muova   May-08-06 12:22 PM   #74 
     - Links!!! thanks nt  Bushknew   May-08-06 01:51 PM   #75 
        - :) n/t  quiet.american   May-08-06 02:56 PM   #77 
  - wow  deFaultLine   May-09-06 04:27 PM   #79 
  - I know that Sallie Mae and Fannie Mae are just huge loan sharks ......  FarceOfNature   May-10-06 11:19 AM   #83 
 

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