Reply #260: I said "helped"

[Kelvin Mace]

If I were Bev, I would have claimed to have done it all and smeared anyone who dared disagree.

If you assert that my statement is factually in error, then you are invited to contact NC Verified Voting and ask them. Their leader, Joyce McCloy was honored by the ACLU for her efforts (http://www.newsobserver.com/659/story/410538.html) in getting S223 passed which outlawed paper-less voting, required disclosure of the source code, and required the CEO's of voting machine companies to sign sworn affidavits that the software used in the election was the same software as certified by the state. Violation of this provision is a FELONY.

Diebold withdrew from NC rather sign that statement.

The fact that Diebold has a manufacturing plant in Lexington, NC is irrelevant. They won't do business with NC because of that provision of the law.

What does that have to do with me?

I wrote that provision when I served on the Select Committee that drafted the law.

'Taint bragging if it is fact.

What has Bev done lately?

Oh yeah, Bev is against the only federal law which would require a VVPB.

Thanks Bev, way to help out.

And before you you even THINK of trashing Joyce, let's look at this news item:

Diebold v. North Carolina Board of Elections
and
McCloy v. North Carolina Board of Elections

State court litigation involving Diebold's attempt to be exempted from state law requirements to escrow all of its system source code on the grounds that it couldn't do so. EFF intervened in the case on behalf of local election integrity advocate Joyce McCloy and convinced the Superior Court to dismiss Diebold's complaint. The Board of Elections nonetheless certified Diebold to sell equipment in the state, despite a statutory requirement to review "all source code" prior to certifying any vendor. EFF filed suit on behalf of McCloy, asking the Court to force the Board to perform its duties. The Court denied EFF's motion, finding for the Board an exemption for the Board from having to inspect "third party software" although such an exemption does not exist in the statute. Nevertheless, Diebold was forced to drop out of the process as it could not escrow all of its code for possible future review.

http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/

McCloy took Diebold to court on principle and prevaled. Bev took Diebold to court and pocketed $70K and sold out Steven Heller.

And yes, it was mixed. We didn't win on all points, but ultimately Diebold withdrew. The claims about being unable to escrow the software are nonsense. You put the software on a disk and mail it to Raleigh. What is so hard about that? Trouble was, when you escrowed the code, you had to sign the sworn statement, and that Diebold would not do.