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Wed May-03-06 11:20 AM
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| 86. i didn't see this post.. what malloy quoted of zinn regarding "obedience" |
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i can't remember the exact quote.
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| -Sometimes, I loathe the middle class almost as much as the plutocracy |
entanglement |
May-02-06 08:42 PM |
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Mark Twain nailed it |
TomInTib |
May-02-06 08:44 PM |
#1 |
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Perfect |
entanglement |
May-02-06 09:36 PM |
#17 |
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zinn points out |
frankenforpres |
May-02-06 08:45 PM |
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I think that's also in |
Nadienne |
May-02-06 11:40 PM |
#27 |
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And the upper-middle class is the most disgusting part of ... |
ShortnFiery |
May-03-06 08:04 AM |
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But some of them are "liberals." |
WildEyedLiberal |
May-04-06 07:57 PM |
#170 |
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i didn't see this post.. what malloy quoted of zinn regarding "obedience" |
radio4progressives |
May-03-06 11:20 AM |
#86 |
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you forgot rude, self-absorbed, incurious, arrogant, prosac-addled |
ixion |
May-02-06 08:46 PM |
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I hear ya |
AnnieBW |
May-02-06 08:49 PM |
#4 |
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"Indirectly" on the government's dime? |
bunkerbuster1 |
May-02-06 09:35 PM |
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He's just exhibit number 210065233 in a nearly endless list |
entanglement |
May-02-06 09:38 PM |
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Sorry. Can't join you in your misanthropic rant. |
KAZ |
May-02-06 08:52 PM |
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That's because (Nice) birds of a feather, hang together. |
BlueJazz |
May-02-06 09:09 PM |
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I don't know about nationwide, but here in Ca most Dems are middle class. |
Xithras |
May-03-06 12:58 PM |
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People will behave like any other animal when left with nothing but... |
Fridays Child |
May-02-06 08:56 PM |
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To my stepdaughter's great credit, her most famous quote |
tmfun |
May-02-06 09:50 PM |
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Smart kid. |
Fridays Child |
May-02-06 10:45 PM |
#24 |
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Whimmies |
antiochsdad |
May-02-06 08:56 PM |
#7 |
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Welcome back |
catmandu57 |
May-03-06 11:38 AM |
#92 |
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Where ya from? |
0007 |
May-03-06 08:18 PM |
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I live in a city full of middle class liberals who... |
stumblnrose |
May-02-06 08:58 PM |
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DAMN! |
quickesst |
May-02-06 09:26 PM |
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Sounds a lot like Marin and Sonoma counties. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 12:16 AM |
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Yet. |
KitSileya |
May-03-06 08:00 AM |
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Nicely said. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 08:20 AM |
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It's hard to see why you'd WANT people who are already voting like you |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 11:30 AM |
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How do they vote? |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 08:14 AM |
#52 |
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Marin and Sonoma Counties are solid democrat. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 08:24 AM |
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So they vote solidly democrat but they don't seem to care enough? |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 08:29 AM |
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I answered your bait post honestly. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:08 AM |
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It wasn't "bait". It was, IMO, the relevant question. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:10 AM |
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They would consider themselves middle class... |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:19 AM |
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LOL - now you're just making shit up. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:21 AM |
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I am not making shit up. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:25 AM |
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Who is talking about what people think they are? |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:29 AM |
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(exhale) I have to go now. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:39 AM |
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LOL - my "free spending" friend. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:43 AM |
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Nicely Done (nt) |
stepnw1f |
May-03-06 04:34 PM |
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100k is middle class. |
Finder |
May-03-06 11:08 AM |
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100K? UPPER middle class is what that is. |
TheGoldenRule |
May-03-06 11:50 AM |
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Please define "middle class: in terms of income. Thank you. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 12:55 PM |
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Anything over $75K is "upper" middle class in my book. |
TheGoldenRule |
May-03-06 01:39 PM |
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Per person? Per family? |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 01:42 PM |
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That's what I make in NYC, and believe me, I honestly feel like |
smirkymonkey |
May-04-06 07:51 PM |
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See - there they go again. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 07:50 PM |
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Like I keep asking: Please define middle class in terms of household |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:03 PM |
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I *AM* talking household income |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:06 PM |
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Right. So I'm asking: what range do you believe is "middle class"? |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:16 PM |
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This will be very arbitrary, but... |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:28 PM |
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I'd go with that set of numbers, more or less. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:34 PM |
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I love gourmet/organic foods and wines... |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:46 PM |
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Marinites Love Bike Paths But Refuse to Vote for Commuter Rail System |
radio4progressives |
May-03-06 11:47 AM |
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wealthy liberals who put up the likes of Dianne Feinstein and Joe Nation |
radio4progressives |
May-03-06 11:52 AM |
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Sonoma County Progressive here... |
radio4progressives |
May-03-06 11:26 AM |
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Sonoma County has some of the nicest people I've ever met. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 07:58 PM |
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Where I come from, those people are considered "Rich"-not in the middle |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:10 PM |
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You mean that place where Cindy Sheehan comes from? n/t |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 02:51 PM |
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You should get over your rage with Seattle because folks here don't |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 12:25 AM |
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My rage has nothing to do with people |
stumblnrose |
May-03-06 02:15 AM |
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LOL! AnD i thought it was because we don't want state taxes - or so you |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 08:05 AM |
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No state income tax |
stumblnrose |
May-03-06 10:37 AM |
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It may be news to you but there's more to the state than |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 10:59 AM |
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That's right. |
JulieRB |
May-03-06 01:16 PM |
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Here, here! |
Yollam |
May-02-06 09:16 PM |
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That is so true |
entanglement |
May-03-06 12:04 AM |
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And when was this ever different? |
LSdemocrat |
May-02-06 09:16 PM |
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Ah, the middle class....... |
Agnomen |
May-02-06 09:18 PM |
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so you believe poor people are noble people |
adriennui |
May-02-06 09:23 PM |
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LOL! |
Swamp Rat |
May-02-06 09:30 PM |
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Flame you because no where in the post does it say that |
treestar |
May-02-06 09:42 PM |
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No, I don't, and there's nothing in my post that says so |
entanglement |
May-02-06 09:48 PM |
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Well, *I* like to think I'm noble... |
BiggJawn |
May-03-06 06:59 AM |
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Exactly who are we talking about here? |
Dr Fate |
May-02-06 09:26 PM |
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They elect the boobs in Washington, Pretzeldent and Congress |
treestar |
May-02-06 09:42 PM |
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A quote from Willie Brown, re: Eugene McArthy |
tmfun |
May-02-06 09:58 PM |
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Exactly Right! |
novalib |
May-03-06 07:43 AM |
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THEY do? |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 08:27 AM |
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Sounds like you're talking about the Top 1%, not the.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-02-06 10:53 PM |
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The middle class shouldn't be defined solely by economic measures, IMHO |
entanglement |
May-03-06 12:32 AM |
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The Middle Class has historically been a barrier to attempts by.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-03-06 08:09 AM |
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Then by all means, define "class" as anything other than "class", though |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 08:13 AM |
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Well, keep fighting... |
TygrBright |
May-02-06 11:36 PM |
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Meaningless? |
ShortnFiery |
May-03-06 08:16 AM |
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Meaningless for the purpose of MORAL judgments... |
TygrBright |
May-03-06 09:15 AM |
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Agree and disagree. |
quantessd |
May-02-06 11:59 PM |
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See this link |
entanglement |
May-03-06 03:13 AM |
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The steadily decreasing middle class... n/t |
misternormal |
May-03-06 12:00 AM |
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Another Evita moment |
LittleClarkie |
May-03-06 12:06 AM |
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Oh yes, Evita in her furs and diamonds far too good for lowly bourgeois |
American Tragedy |
May-03-06 09:32 PM |
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We should start a Misanthropracy |
rucky |
May-03-06 02:19 AM |
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Is this a joke?? |
bling bling |
May-03-06 02:27 AM |
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Didn't you know, it's fine to stereotype people by middle or upper |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 08:07 AM |
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Everyone else does ... |
ShortnFiery |
May-03-06 08:12 AM |
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Wow, you're pretty defensive about affluent dems. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:15 AM |
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I'm pretty defensive of people judged on their income. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:18 AM |
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Fair point. |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:20 AM |
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Irrelevant. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:26 AM |
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Democratic party has long been the party of the middle and working classes |
Yollam |
May-03-06 09:37 AM |
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Screwed without the working class? |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 09:47 AM |
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the middle class |
taught_me_patience |
May-03-06 02:39 AM |
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You'll run into problems because very few Americans |
brindis_desala |
May-03-06 07:41 AM |
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I hate to break the news to you.. |
sendero |
May-03-06 07:50 AM |
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I can't quote any statistics ... |
ShortnFiery |
May-03-06 08:11 AM |
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Well, that sure explains the Kennedy family. |
dbaker41 |
May-03-06 01:36 PM |
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Broad brush much? |
MadHound |
May-03-06 08:24 AM |
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Spot On! |
Perky |
May-03-06 09:36 AM |
#72 |
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I didn't say anything about |
entanglement |
May-03-06 02:05 PM |
#128 |
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No, but you certainly implied it |
MadHound |
May-03-06 03:41 PM |
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So refreshing to see such a self-righteous... |
NaturalHigh |
May-03-06 08:26 AM |
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Yeah but you better learned to love em |
Perky |
May-03-06 09:33 AM |
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ARRG- what is this "them" crap- the middle class is US. |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:08 PM |
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So what? |
entanglement |
May-03-06 02:10 PM |
#129 |
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Sure you can- but if you recognized that this "attitude" you speak of.. |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 02:23 PM |
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Yes, but the middle class by virtue of its size |
entanglement |
May-03-06 02:31 PM |
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All the people who were at the war protest I organized were middle class |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 02:37 PM |
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"They were all at a hootnaney singing old labor songs" |
WildEyedLiberal |
May-04-06 08:29 PM |
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The middle class isn't a monolith, y'know. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 04:29 PM |
#145 |
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which is my point I think. |
Perky |
May-03-06 02:12 PM |
#130 |
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Wow, there are so many special people in this thread! |
deaniac21 |
May-03-06 09:39 AM |
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That's true for many people, regardless of class |
rman |
May-03-06 09:40 AM |
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Blame the victims... |
porphyrian |
May-03-06 10:04 AM |
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Oh the beauty of Classism first thing in afternoon |
insane_cratic_gal |
May-03-06 11:12 AM |
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And i thought "wine drinking sushi eaters" was a Republican slur |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 11:13 AM |
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i hear ya! i see a lot of it right here in these threads.. |
radio4progressives |
May-03-06 11:18 AM |
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Stupidity knows no income level. |
Ksec |
May-03-06 11:23 AM |
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Well this attitude will sure got lots of folks interested... |
Sammy Pepys |
May-03-06 11:26 AM |
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I agree with the poster ... |
ShortnFiery |
May-03-06 11:30 AM |
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Who else can afford the time & money to post on the internet...? |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 11:50 AM |
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Yes! And we've gone all this way without an actual definition |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 12:54 PM |
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I know- most of those Marin County & Wine Country people are RICH... |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 12:57 PM |
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See my reply above |
entanglement |
May-03-06 02:13 PM |
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Far too many self absorbed and apathetic middle class people |
TheGoldenRule |
May-03-06 11:55 AM |
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The middle class are the beneficiaries of Bread and Circuses. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-03-06 11:56 AM |
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Please define "middle class" in terms of income. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 12:55 PM |
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It's a matter of attitude rather than income. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-03-06 01:01 PM |
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I see- so I can pay my rent & grocery bills with "attitude" now. |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:05 PM |
#106 |
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Isn't that what the OP is talking about? Attitude? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-03-06 01:13 PM |
#111 |
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No, the OP is specifically talking about "Class"- even used the word. |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:21 PM |
#115 |
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Have you ever been homeless? I have. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-03-06 01:31 PM |
#118 |
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Almost. I grew up in a shot-gun house heated with a wood stove. |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:39 PM |
#120 |
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The middle class is indifferent? |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 01:43 PM |
#124 |
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"The poor" are beyond voting- they are having Marxist "teach ins" |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:47 PM |
#126 |
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Then perhaps you should find a term other than "middle class". |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 01:39 PM |
#122 |
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Many of the "poor" people I see on the bus have I-pods & cell phones... |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:01 PM |
#105 |
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Actually its kind of a sad condescension..... |
rinsd |
May-03-06 01:21 PM |
#116 |
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Is it "The soft bigotry of low expectations" or unrealistic romanticism? |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:25 PM |
#117 |
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ROFL! We love the middle class when Michael Moore talks |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 01:48 PM |
#127 |
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Straw man argument |
entanglement |
May-03-06 02:23 PM |
#133 |
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Middle class culpability- or middle class "attitiude" culpability? |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 02:33 PM |
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self delete |
rinsd |
May-03-06 03:10 PM |
#140 |
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You're not the only poster on this thread. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 04:24 PM |
#142 |
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You won't get a definition of "middle class" any more than |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 01:45 PM |
#125 |
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you keep bringing this up |
frankenforpres |
May-04-06 06:55 PM |
#168 |
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How do you know? |
JulieRB |
May-03-06 09:14 PM |
#160 |
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Extraordinary, excellent, amazing post |
WildEyedLiberal |
May-04-06 08:25 PM |
#172 |
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I find your post offensive. |
debbierlus |
May-03-06 01:12 PM |
#109 |
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Again the same damn story, |
agincourt |
May-03-06 01:12 PM |
#110 |
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That smug middle class, with their "internet" and "computers" |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 01:15 PM |
#112 |
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So true |
EminenceFront |
May-03-06 01:21 PM |
#114 |
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How many of these posts are being typed at a Universtiy computer lab?.. |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 02:29 PM |
#134 |
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You made me spit my drink. |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 04:26 PM |
#143 |
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Hey yeah fuck the middle class! |
Beelzebud |
May-03-06 02:34 PM |
#137 |
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There yuo go - we want the middle class votes, we want their |
mondo joe |
May-03-06 04:27 PM |
#144 |
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Dead on! |
debbierlus |
May-03-06 04:50 PM |
#151 |
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He's not an elitist! He hates everyone equally |
insane_cratic_gal |
May-03-06 04:53 PM |
#152 |
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What an incredibly (stupid) stereotypical statement. |
NightOwwl |
May-03-06 04:31 PM |
#146 |
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it will be gone soon enough entanglement |
mdmc |
May-03-06 04:33 PM |
#147 |
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LOL! n/t |
Dr Fate |
May-03-06 04:47 PM |
#149 |
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:-) |
mdmc |
May-03-06 04:49 PM |
#150 |
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You forgot plain ole stupid. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-03-06 08:00 PM |
#155 |
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Yes, and? |
HypnoToad |
May-03-06 08:20 PM |
#157 |
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Don't do that stuff before I've had my coffee |
treestar |
May-06-06 08:54 PM |
#175 |
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What middle class? You mean the middle class, where both .... |
Joe Fields |
May-03-06 09:24 PM |
#162 |
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Yeah, I think she means that one. |
Redstone |
May-03-06 11:00 PM |
#167 |
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I'm middle class and guess what? |
MichiganVote |
May-04-06 07:59 PM |
#171 |
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I hate people with 10 fingers! |
JVS |
May-06-06 08:49 PM |
#174 |
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