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Sat Apr-29-06 01:03 PM
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The few cases that are prosecuted, however, highlight how lucrative a business recruiting undocumented workers has become. In one case, a single smuggler allegedly earned $900,000 over 15 months placing 6,000 migrants in jobs at Chinese restaurants across the upper Midwest. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060415/ap_on_bi_ge/mexico_... ;_ylt=A86.I2droEJEtCEBAQZQuk0A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl |
| -Immigration: Whose side are you on? |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 11:10 AM |
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because we are infected with trolls and naifs? |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-29-06 11:12 AM |
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Actually, it's not just trolls |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 11:37 AM |
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Those would be the 'naifs' |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-29-06 02:18 PM |
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spot on! All working people are our brothers and sisters.... |
mike_c |
Apr-29-06 11:15 AM |
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Well, I'm glad to see that I'm not alone |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 11:43 AM |
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I stand with you. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-29-06 05:39 PM |
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Been railing against illegal EMPLOYERS for decades |
havocmom |
Apr-29-06 11:19 AM |
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I'm mostly Irish and English |
panader0 |
Apr-29-06 11:20 AM |
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I won't argue with that at all |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 11:39 AM |
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"native" americans are also immigrants |
msongs |
Apr-29-06 09:00 PM |
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Illegal=illegal |
bluedog |
Apr-29-06 11:20 AM |
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Exactly - I see you are a Floridian |
El Fuego |
Apr-29-06 11:39 AM |
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That IS a real problem |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 11:41 AM |
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Exactly!!!! |
ryan_cats |
Apr-29-06 12:04 PM |
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What if the employers also employ Americans? |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:24 PM |
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I'm from CALIFORNIA baby and I support all working people... |
mike_c |
Apr-29-06 03:16 PM |
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There are special laws for Cubans and so they may be legal |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:22 PM |
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Northern & Midwestern cities have no clue? |
readmoreoften |
Apr-29-06 05:42 PM |
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Not "immigrants." We're only talking about ILLEGAL immigrants. |
El Fuego |
Apr-29-06 06:15 PM |
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Yes, there are a lot of "illegal immigrants" in NY, too. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-29-06 06:51 PM |
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But they are still by and large English-speaking cities |
El Fuego |
Apr-29-06 08:07 PM |
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Did you know that Mexico actually has a HIGHER rate |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 11:42 AM |
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What are your thoughts on this other law braker: |
Xipe Totec |
Apr-29-06 01:51 PM |
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False analogy. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-29-06 02:42 PM |
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illegal=illegal. Where's the falsehood? |
Xipe Totec |
Apr-29-06 03:07 PM |
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She was an American Citizen standing up (OK, sitting down) to protest |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-29-06 03:53 PM |
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If the law is the law, then the law is the law. |
Xipe Totec |
Apr-29-06 04:09 PM |
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Exactly! Rosa Parks was not treated as a full American citizen |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:28 PM |
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That's is not my argument and you know it. |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-29-06 10:38 PM |
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They are not trying to get our money. This way they are at |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:27 PM |
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I didn't say, nor did I mean, that they are here for free $ |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-29-06 08:45 PM |
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entering the U.S. "illegally" is not a criminal offense.... |
mike_c |
Apr-29-06 03:21 PM |
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The immigration laws are considered civil, so violating them is |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:20 PM |
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Those who do that will never qualify under the current laws |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:17 PM |
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I am an immigrant - came legally |
daveskilt |
Apr-29-06 06:03 PM |
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slavery was legal at one time. |
rucky |
Apr-29-06 08:10 PM |
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Because if you focus on people who are being exploited by corporate |
MADem |
Apr-29-06 11:20 AM |
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We use their labor. |
Demobrat |
Apr-29-06 11:30 AM |
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"we have job wranglers who actively recruit illegals " |
Jade Fox |
Apr-29-06 11:49 AM |
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You don't think they do? |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 12:37 PM |
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I didn't know it, and I assume I'm not alone. n/t |
Jade Fox |
Apr-29-06 12:42 PM |
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Here's one link |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 01:03 PM |
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It's tough to be on a "Side" in this... |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-29-06 11:55 AM |
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Well, if it would be hard |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 12:05 PM |
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That's not exactly what I'm saying, but.. |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-29-06 12:33 PM |
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Those meatpacking jobs used to be good, union |
roody |
Apr-29-06 12:11 PM |
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Yup. But before that... |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-29-06 12:38 PM |
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I'm tending to lean against illegal immigration. |
ryan_cats |
Apr-29-06 12:02 PM |
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Where in my post do you get the idea |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 12:14 PM |
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Where in my post did you get the idea that I thought you were in favor |
ryan_cats |
Apr-29-06 12:58 PM |
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Sorry, crossed wires. |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 03:02 PM |
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I'm Not Flaming You, But |
Robbie Michaels |
Apr-29-06 03:02 PM |
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I think we need a humane immigration policy. |
DanCa |
Apr-29-06 12:15 PM |
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I am on the fence on this issue and think it make hurt Dems in 06 |
mandyky |
Apr-29-06 12:17 PM |
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I'm not on either one of their sides. |
justice1 |
Apr-29-06 12:26 PM |
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We should go after predatory employers |
Nikia |
Apr-29-06 12:56 PM |
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Let 'em all in |
hogwyld |
Apr-29-06 12:59 PM |
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That's actually not a bad idea. Being more restrictive ourselves |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:34 PM |
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Massive fines & penalties for employers employing illegals |
Kansas Wyatt |
Apr-29-06 01:08 PM |
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So, are you saying that we should try to round up |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 01:35 PM |
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I said MASSIVE FINES for the employers who employ illegals |
Kansas Wyatt |
Apr-29-06 02:22 PM |
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I agree, it's not black and white. It's very grey, and it needs to be |
sproutster |
Apr-29-06 01:27 PM |
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Well, this thread seems to be on an even keel |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 01:36 PM |
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Excellent post. |
Iniquitous Bunny |
Apr-29-06 01:40 PM |
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Lord, Americans are such wimps |
Jim Warren |
Apr-29-06 02:24 PM |
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Sounds like slavery to me. This is why we need to encourage legal |
genieroze |
Apr-29-06 02:24 PM |
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They can't just obtain a work visa. The only alternative is not |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:37 PM |
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A company I worked for legally employed around 150 on visas |
Nikia |
Apr-29-06 06:12 PM |
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Then don't employ them at all, don't treat them like slaves. Sounds like |
genieroze |
Apr-30-06 12:44 AM |
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I am on the side of keeping the USA an independent nation. |
hansberrym |
Apr-29-06 02:36 PM |
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I agree with many of your points |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 03:01 PM |
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I would favor going after the Corporations employing illegals first |
hansberrym |
Apr-29-06 05:55 PM |
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Their family status |
Kansas Wyatt |
Apr-29-06 07:36 PM |
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As long as capital is free to move across borders unregulated |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-29-06 03:40 PM |
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Exactly. It is like trying to pretend we are a nobility that deserves |
treestar |
Apr-29-06 05:33 PM |
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Which "side" busts businesses for breaking the law? |
omega minimo |
Apr-29-06 05:11 PM |
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Ahhh NAFTA! |
Karenina |
Apr-29-06 05:44 PM |
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So it created MORE problems, and a bigger (same old racist) bogeyman |
omega minimo |
Apr-29-06 06:40 PM |
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I am on the side of people who want to talk about the impeachment |
Joe Fields |
Apr-29-06 05:57 PM |
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Ah, but this is of primary importance |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 06:36 PM |
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You don't have to take my word for it, but..... |
Joe Fields |
Apr-29-06 07:58 PM |
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The thing is |
prolesunited |
Apr-29-06 08:56 PM |
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I'm on the side of justice for all and that doesn't mean |
Cleita |
Apr-29-06 06:54 PM |
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I do believe |
prolesunited |
Apr-30-06 11:39 AM |
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phil ochs lyrics that apply here |
seg4527 |
Apr-29-06 07:01 PM |
#75 |
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