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Tue Apr-25-06 01:44 PM
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| 14. I guess they're using HF, |
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hydrofluoric acid. Not especially nasty for short periods, but it eats glass. I used it as a teenager for etching glass; when I got it on my hands I was in no hurry to wash it off. The F- radicals eat into anything, but it doesn't dissociate much, so there's not a lot of F- in the solution or paste and it attacks slowly.
Unlike HCl or sulfuric acid, in which the Cl or sulfate ions don't attack as much, but the acids dissociate more, so they attack quickly.
In college chemistry we had two terms to disambiguate the two kinds of acids, but that was 25 years ago.
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| -Graffiti Back in Subways, Indelibly This Time |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 01:13 PM |
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I worked at a museum where most of the staff considered graffiti art. |
stopbush |
Apr-25-06 01:14 PM |
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Yes it does seem |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-25-06 01:55 PM |
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Why would you say that? |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 06:58 PM |
#68 |
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Basquiat's graffiti became.. |
girl gone mad |
Apr-25-06 07:43 PM |
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There is an interesting disconnect between the idea of personal expression |
bryant69 |
Apr-25-06 01:16 PM |
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Spot on. n/t |
Taxloss |
Apr-25-06 01:17 PM |
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Bravo |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 01:19 PM |
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I'd never defend it because of the unfairness of the system |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 03:49 PM |
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This has been commonplace in Europe for a while. |
Taxloss |
Apr-25-06 01:16 PM |
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Those poor Dutch. |
asthmaticeog |
Apr-25-06 01:20 PM |
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"Going Dutch", "Dutch cap" ... |
Taxloss |
Apr-25-06 01:30 PM |
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In Holland they call it "English etching." |
tabasco |
Apr-25-06 01:32 PM |
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Maybe It's Just Me, BUT |
novalib |
Apr-25-06 01:19 PM |
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I gotta disagree |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 01:21 PM |
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I Don't Recall That |
novalib |
Apr-25-06 01:54 PM |
#17 |
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lovely stylized names, numbers, bright colors |
ldf |
Apr-25-06 07:57 PM |
#90 |
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I agree...most of that sucks |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:50 PM |
#104 |
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I just loooove when they cover up the maps |
mitchtv |
Apr-25-06 03:15 PM |
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This etching isn't the same. |
Taxloss |
Apr-25-06 01:29 PM |
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What? |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-25-06 01:58 PM |
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Ah, the good old days when we used to hit the trains |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 02:10 PM |
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Please don't visit my city. |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-25-06 06:39 PM |
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I never said it was art |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 07:01 PM |
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Those who tout their own ugly actions |
Veganistan |
Apr-25-06 07:22 PM |
#78 |
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Thank you Dr. Freud |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 07:29 PM |
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oh, gawd, i just wet myself |
ldf |
Apr-25-06 08:03 PM |
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Yeah, I guess part of the point is not to get caught |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:21 PM |
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but, was it beautiful? |
NuttyFluffers |
Apr-25-06 08:32 PM |
#99 |
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um...I have about a thousand pictures |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:42 PM |
#102 |
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You bad boy! |
Book Lover |
Apr-25-06 09:51 PM |
#118 |
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What I Meant Was |
novalib |
Apr-25-06 02:12 PM |
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This is a bit of romanticism |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 02:48 PM |
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Whoa, they're using acid to etch the glass? |
MadHound |
Apr-25-06 01:20 PM |
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I guess they're using HF, |
igil |
Apr-25-06 01:44 PM |
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Oh fer... They're not using HF. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-25-06 01:55 PM |
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it's not always glass- |
QuestionAll |
Apr-25-06 01:46 PM |
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Wow. |
asthmaticeog |
Apr-25-06 01:23 PM |
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This isn't new |
TomPainesBones |
Apr-25-06 01:43 PM |
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Some windows I've seen |
foreverdem |
Apr-25-06 01:52 PM |
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All art is crime |
mdmc |
Apr-25-06 01:56 PM |
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The "bad old days" are the good old days for me |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 02:05 PM |
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What about the poor guy/gal who has to clean it up? |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 02:24 PM |
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Apr-25-06 02:39 PM |
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It's great, isn't it? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-25-06 02:49 PM |
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LOL |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 02:53 PM |
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OK, how about this |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 02:54 PM |
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Yep. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-25-06 02:55 PM |
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I'm at a loss of how to respond |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 03:00 PM |
#39 |
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That's exactly right |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 03:02 PM |
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It has everything to do with me |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 03:03 PM |
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Let me reiterate |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 03:08 PM |
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So you have no problem destroying private property as well? |
MelliMel |
Apr-25-06 05:55 PM |
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No thanks |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 06:28 PM |
#60 |
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That is such bullshit. |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-25-06 06:49 PM |
#64 |
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Who said it made sense? |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 06:58 PM |
#67 |
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That's a bunch a bullshit. |
Kingshakabobo |
Apr-25-06 06:53 PM |
#65 |
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Can't speak for Chicago |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 07:00 PM |
#69 |
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Apartments are private homes |
MelliMel |
Apr-25-06 08:53 PM |
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No, I don't think they want them |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:58 PM |
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Ah, so no respect for anyone. |
MelliMel |
Apr-25-06 09:02 PM |
#110 |
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Very like a whale |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 09:06 PM |
#111 |
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Just because taggers are subhuman... |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 07:02 PM |
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Oh go on |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 07:05 PM |
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alcibiades, I've been reading your posts, and you're full of crap. |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 07:24 PM |
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I'll trust the actual social scientists over your googled definition |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:04 PM |
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And look at how dishonest you were |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:26 PM |
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How can you have a "subculture"... |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 08:57 PM |
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Deep |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 09:00 PM |
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When you show me some sense, I'll respond to it. |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 09:09 PM |
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I did not copy from that page and I was not dishonest. |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 09:12 PM |
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uh huh |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 09:19 PM |
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As a practice |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 02:59 PM |
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My door faced an alley. |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 03:02 PM |
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If your door faces an alley |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 03:07 PM |
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Yeah those swastikas some asshole painted |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-25-06 06:43 PM |
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That's not street graffiti |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 07:11 PM |
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Choices? To deface others' property, to commit crimes that others pay for? |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-25-06 07:07 PM |
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My time as a |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 07:14 PM |
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Why not? What were you protesting? What were your statements... |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-25-06 07:19 PM |
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I do support it |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 07:28 PM |
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So the fact that others have to pay to clean it up makes no difference to |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-25-06 07:52 PM |
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That's precisely what's fascinating about it |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:06 PM |
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About as fascinating as men pissing on the sides of buildings. |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-25-06 08:29 PM |
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LOL |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:39 PM |
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Yeah, I know... graffiti is worse. |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-25-06 08:47 PM |
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Zzzzzzing! |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:51 PM |
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He/she gets payed for it, will be doing that job anyway. |
rman |
Apr-25-06 07:33 PM |
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Territorial Pissing |
Taverner |
Apr-25-06 02:11 PM |
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While the graffiti subculture |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 02:42 PM |
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Yeah, it's pretty primal |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-25-06 02:51 PM |
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It isn't art it's vandalism. It's ugly and mean spirited too. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Apr-25-06 02:42 PM |
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Yeeee-HAW! |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 02:51 PM |
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"Zimmerman Flew and Tyler Knew!" |
D__S |
Apr-25-06 03:16 PM |
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Didn't much like Turk 182 |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 03:20 PM |
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So at least you ADMIT that you love being "ugly and mean-spirited". |
dicksteele |
Apr-25-06 03:23 PM |
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I totally agree |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 03:25 PM |
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Well, if you genuinely "totally agree"... |
dicksteele |
Apr-25-06 05:13 PM |
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Yeah yeah yeah |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 05:51 PM |
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I have some questions for you, if you don't mind. |
Gormy Cuss |
Apr-25-06 07:39 PM |
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Answers |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:11 PM |
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False dichotomy. Or is it trichotomy? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-25-06 02:51 PM |
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Neither |
NoPasaran |
Apr-25-06 03:08 PM |
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You infer that murder and child molestation might be art too, right? |
The_Casual_Observer |
Apr-25-06 04:19 PM |
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This is the nub for those who see street graffiti as art |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 05:01 PM |
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No, I'm implying. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-25-06 06:04 PM |
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It'd be a real shame if the acid slashed back in their eyes. |
D__S |
Apr-25-06 03:21 PM |
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Graffiti is none of those things |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 03:24 PM |
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Oh freaking brother. |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 07:30 PM |
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Keep posting |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 08:15 PM |
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I agree |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-25-06 06:35 PM |
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I couldn't agree more. |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 06:56 PM |
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LOL |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 07:02 PM |
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LOL as much as you like. |
Yollam |
Apr-25-06 07:27 PM |
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I was just |
GodHelpUsAll2 |
Apr-25-06 07:42 PM |
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I think grafitti on.. |
sendero |
Apr-25-06 07:42 PM |
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Apr-25-06 08:35 PM |
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We are all in this together |
AngryAmish |
Apr-25-06 09:38 PM |
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Agreed |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-25-06 09:48 PM |
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Apr-25-06 09:57 PM |
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I'm sure it would be OK if the people doing the beating |
Telly Savalas |
Apr-25-06 10:20 PM |
#120 |
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This thread is infuriating |
ALago1 |
Apr-25-06 09:18 PM |
#114 |
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Locking for widespread vitriol. |
pinto |
Apr-25-06 10:22 PM |
#121 |
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