Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Tue Apr-25-06 05:34 PM
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| 26. Excellent summation of the DOA Hillary plan |
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But AndyTieDye does make a good point about a potential loss of insurance jobs if single payer goes through.
I personally believe that the avalanche of new jobs that would be created if everyone in the country could be assured of healthcare would be amazing. Plus, I think you would see the expansion of existing companies.
It is evident that we will no longer ever again be an economy that is based on manufacturing. But those old manufacturing jobs could conceivably be replaced with with new jobs in healthcare.
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| -Single Payer Universal Health - an issue we can win on! Please read |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 07:17 AM |
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Seconded... |
sendero |
Apr-25-06 07:20 AM |
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I agree. It's time to stop tap dancing around this issue. |
Vinca |
Apr-25-06 07:26 AM |
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I agree- |
depakid |
Apr-25-06 07:30 AM |
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and the ONLY reason someone would not support something what |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 07:37 AM |
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It is obvious |
depakid |
Apr-25-06 07:53 AM |
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MN gov candidate Becky Lourey is running on this issue |
katinmn |
Apr-25-06 07:30 AM |
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This Issue Worked So Well for Us The Last Time We Tried It |
AndyTiedye |
Apr-25-06 07:31 AM |
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So we're never allowed to bring it up again? |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 07:38 AM |
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No, the poster just doesn't know anything |
depakid |
Apr-25-06 07:54 AM |
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Please Enlighten Me |
AndyTiedye |
Apr-25-06 12:33 PM |
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Hillary's "plan" |
depakid |
Apr-25-06 12:47 PM |
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Excellent summation of the DOA Hillary plan |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 05:34 PM |
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Many of those insurance jobs amount to nothing more |
depakid |
Apr-26-06 07:02 AM |
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No, job losses can be minimized. Think about it. |
eridani |
Apr-26-06 07:44 AM |
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Single-Payer Would See Even More Opposition from Health Insurers… |
AndyTiedye |
Apr-25-06 08:08 PM |
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One industry replaces another |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 09:02 PM |
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The slogan for single payer should be |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-26-06 06:37 PM |
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What you are missing |
Nederland |
Apr-27-06 12:02 PM |
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We've had 12 years of ever-shittier healthcare coverage since then |
bunkerbuster1 |
Apr-25-06 09:06 AM |
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NO, We've never tried it...ever |
IronLionZion |
Apr-25-06 12:09 PM |
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That was NOT single payer |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-26-06 06:36 PM |
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"Cover the Uninsured" week, May 1 - 7 |
jojo54 |
Apr-25-06 07:56 AM |
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Corporate America NEEDS this solution. It's the only way |
elehhhhna |
Apr-25-06 07:59 AM |
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This is THE litmus test |
blindpig |
Apr-25-06 08:48 AM |
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This time, the business community is behind it |
warrens |
Apr-25-06 08:52 AM |
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GM is definitely on board |
IronLionZion |
Apr-25-06 12:13 PM |
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protecting health benefits biggest issue for labor |
pberq |
Apr-25-06 08:56 AM |
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Lose your health, lose your job, lose your insurance, lose your house |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 10:13 AM |
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We really need to sell it as pro-business |
NewJeffCT |
Apr-25-06 10:15 AM |
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It IS pro-business |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 10:25 AM |
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Exactly. |
area51 |
Apr-25-06 08:44 PM |
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agreed |
NewJeffCT |
Apr-26-06 01:41 PM |
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YES!! |
helderheid |
Apr-25-06 10:15 AM |
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IMO... this should be the top priority |
RedEarth |
Apr-25-06 10:23 AM |
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IMO... this should be the top priority |
RedEarth |
Apr-25-06 10:23 AM |
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From Kos - must be in the air today |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 12:03 PM |
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Who determines what is covered |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-25-06 07:26 PM |
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Hello dcfirefighter! |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-25-06 08:55 PM |
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Hello to you as well. |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-25-06 10:14 PM |
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Profit may not be evil, but it sure the hell is inappropriate |
eridani |
Apr-26-06 07:50 AM |
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I beg to differ |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-26-06 01:39 PM |
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For example, the president of United Health Care |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-26-06 06:41 PM |
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That is Obscene |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-27-06 09:26 AM |
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Free advice.... worth every penny |
BrownOak |
Apr-28-06 01:26 PM |
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That benefit need not come in the form of obscene profits |
eridani |
Apr-27-06 03:29 AM |
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OK, so you hate Socialism, regardless of how well it works in Europe... |
Solon |
Apr-27-06 05:03 AM |
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Again, Public Goods vs. Private Goods |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-27-06 09:23 AM |
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OK, sorry, just thought it ironic that someone... |
Solon |
Apr-27-06 10:57 AM |
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Public Service doesn't neccessarily imply Socialism |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-27-06 12:23 PM |
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I think this is how it will end up here |
NewJeffCT |
Apr-27-06 11:54 AM |
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Big Pharma and Big Insurance's interests don't completely coincide |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-27-06 12:28 PM |
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Then why are drugs from Canada so much cheaper? |
NewJeffCT |
Apr-27-06 12:43 PM |
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In Canada, a very wide range of essential services are covered |
Telly Savalas |
Apr-25-06 10:35 PM |
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Insurance companies provide nothing, and certainly not "service" |
eridani |
Apr-26-06 07:49 AM |
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You miss the point |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-26-06 01:36 PM |
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No, YOU miss the point |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-26-06 06:44 PM |
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Then standardize the claim system. |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-27-06 09:29 AM |
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Easier said than done |
NewJeffCT |
Apr-27-06 09:56 AM |
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Thanks for the info. |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-27-06 11:29 AM |
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Which they would then use as an excuse to raise premiums |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-27-06 12:04 PM |
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'They' implies collaboration |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-27-06 12:26 PM |
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Standardizing forms would require collaboration, too |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-27-06 04:21 PM |
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They find the market price, and charge it. |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-28-06 05:13 AM |
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They're not regulated enough if the CEOs can make THAT much money |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-28-06 12:29 PM |
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I believe you are right nt |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-28-06 03:52 PM |
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Again, it's a simple fix |
BrownOak |
Apr-28-06 04:09 PM |
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Not really |
BrownOak |
Apr-27-06 05:55 PM |
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They do the exact opposite of spreading risk |
eridani |
Apr-27-06 03:25 AM |
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I don't plan on allowing Cherry Picking |
dcfirefighter |
Apr-27-06 09:38 AM |
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The government would only do INSURANCE, not health care itself |
eridani |
Apr-27-06 02:45 PM |
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Oh, so the hippie socialists at the Wall Street Journal want this. |
Telly Savalas |
Apr-25-06 10:41 PM |
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Fantastic post. |
Cleita |
Apr-25-06 10:46 PM |
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why isn't this front and center in the Democratic agenda? |
leftofthedial |
Apr-25-06 10:47 PM |
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Pro-small business, pro-corporate, pro-working Americans! |
blondeatlast |
Apr-25-06 10:51 PM |
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it is not perfect |
frankenforpres |
Apr-26-06 12:58 AM |
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True enough. My ideal plan would offer an "opt-out" for those |
blondeatlast |
Apr-26-06 06:19 PM |
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Not to mention cutting local property taxes |
hedgehog |
Apr-25-06 10:55 PM |
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America loves its HMOs and private insurance companies so much that..... |
savemefromdumbya |
Apr-25-06 11:06 PM |
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It's actually absurdly easy to fix |
BrownOak |
Apr-25-06 11:25 PM |
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Why do big companies pay less per capita than small companies? |
eridani |
Apr-26-06 07:53 AM |
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Not necessarily |
BrownOak |
Apr-26-06 05:38 PM |
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But isn't the "pool" really a fiction? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-26-06 06:49 PM |
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Yes... no.... I mean yes.... |
BrownOak |
Apr-26-06 07:59 PM |
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Everybody in, nobody out |
eridani |
Apr-27-06 03:30 AM |
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Agreed! |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-25-06 11:27 PM |
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neocons love pushing for entitlement reform... |
flaminbats |
Apr-26-06 12:39 AM |
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We can see it in 10 years (or sooner), if we commit. |
rucky |
Apr-26-06 03:48 AM |
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Count this physician out |
DrBloodmoney |
Apr-26-06 02:18 PM |
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I'm interested |
BrownOak |
Apr-26-06 08:03 PM |
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Loan forgiveness is a great idea IMO. |
eridani |
Apr-27-06 09:51 PM |
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Until the mid-1970s, there were programs of loan forgiveness |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-28-06 05:39 PM |
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kick. (n/t) |
area51 |
Apr-26-06 03:41 PM |
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it's the fairest and makes economic sense, but unlikely |
Strawman |
Apr-26-06 04:07 PM |
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A story that will shock you to your core!!!! (not) |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Apr-26-06 05:47 PM |
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Why Isn't This on the Front Page |
stepnw1f |
Apr-27-06 09:27 AM |
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I believe |
brook |
Apr-27-06 01:18 PM |
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50% of healthcare in US IS single payer...Medicare. n/t |
triguy46 |
Apr-28-06 04:00 PM |
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