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PULLING THE PLUG - JUST IMAGINE THIS: [View All]

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PULLING THE PLUG - JUST IMAGINE THIS:
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Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 01:47 AM by Th1onein
Imagine that you are sick and so you make sure that you are covered by really good health insurance. Your everyday life is a regimen of taking your medications, taking care of your young son, and keeping your appointements with your doctor. You're not real sophisticated about health insurance, but you know that your health has never been good, because of your heart, so you spend what little extra you've got on supplemental insurance policies, because you really need to be sure that, if you get sicker, you've got the coverage to take care of yourself. After all, you're alone in the world, just you and your young son.

So...you do get sick. You have to go into the hospital. The news is not good: Your heart has some damaged valves which have to be repaired and replaced and you have almost no chance of surviving the surgery. But, if you don't undergo the surgery, you have no chance at all of surviving. And, you've got insurance. You've got good doctors.

What would you do? You would probably go with the best odds, even though those odds are not good at all. You'd have the surgery. You've got the insurance and you've got the doctors. You, quite literally, have to put your life in their hands. You trust them.

So...you undergo the surgery. And, miraculously, you survive. Your insurance is still in force. You've got good doctors. Everything is rosy.

Then, you get an infection. Because of the infection, you develop complications. You have to go on some medications that cause other problems. You get a bedsore. You get more complications. In the meantime, the insurance costs are rising. The doctors are becoming less optimistic about your chances.

You're fighting for your life. But the insurance company is still paying and getting mean about it. They start pressuring the hospital, which starts pressuring the doctor. The doctor had a patient who he could pull from the arms of death with surgery and he almost did it, but then these complications occurred. Things are not looking that rosy anymore. Pressure is mounting from the insurance company.

The doctor, caving to pressure from the hospital, which caved in to pressure from the insurance company, finally gets with the family to ask them for permission to pull the plug. But the family talked to you and you didn't want to give up the fight.

The doctor convenes a meeting with other doctors and they decide to medicate you into unconsciousness so that you can't say what you want anymore. Once they do that, they have another meeting, with other doctors and make the decision that they can unplug you, with or without your or your family's permission.

These people, the insurance company that you gave your money to, in the expectation that they would pay for your medical bills; the doctor, who you trusted in and believed in, to have your best interests at heart--these are the people who are bringing about your death, just when you are fighting for your life the hardest you've ever had to fight.

Isn't that one heck of a deal, guys? These are the people whose hands you put your life into and they are going to kill you. That's the Texas Futile Care Law. And my sister is going to die because of it.

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  PULLING THE PLUG - JUST IMAGINE THIS: Th1onein  Apr-25-06 01:30 AM   #0 
   I am so very sorry for what your sister and all of you are going through.  niyad   Apr-25-06 01:34 AM   #1 
   Oh my God, I'm so sorry for you.  amitten   Apr-25-06 01:35 AM   #2 
   Where are things at now Th1onein? nt  wtmusic   Apr-25-06 01:36 AM   #3 
   Yes, an update please  Viva_La_Revolution   Apr-25-06 01:45 AM   #4 
   I'm so sorry  Nicole   Apr-25-06 01:46 AM   #5 
   k/r  Fridays Child   Apr-25-06 01:46 AM   #6 
   An Update  Th1onein   Apr-25-06 01:56 AM   #7 
      Wish you and your family the best  MikeNY   Apr-25-06 03:13 AM   #13 
      Can you stop the drugs that are preventing her from  dancingAlone   Apr-25-06 04:03 AM   #16 
      Texas law allows forced euthanasia? That should be a CNN headline.  elehhhhna   Apr-25-06 08:47 AM   #23 
      Any documentary film makers out there?  liberalla   Apr-25-06 03:57 PM   #39 
      Michael Moore?  HeeBGBz   Apr-25-06 06:38 PM   #47 
         Yes, he is.  liberalla   Apr-25-06 09:00 PM   #49 
         Yes he is. Earth to Michael.  Tigress DEM   Apr-27-06 09:13 PM   #108 
      I don't know if this will help but Michael Moore is asking for...  liberalla   Apr-25-06 09:45 PM   #54 
      the1onein  Dorian Gray   Apr-26-06 08:24 AM   #75 
   That's the law that * signed into law isn't it.....  MadMaddie   Apr-25-06 01:59 AM   #8 
   Yes he left his legacy in Texas  dogdayDU Moderator   Apr-25-06 08:53 AM   #24 
   Simply horrible and I feel so terrible for you and your family.  Old and In the Way   Apr-25-06 02:07 AM   #9 
   I'm so very, very sorry for what you all are facing.  blonndee   Apr-25-06 02:11 AM   #10 
   Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-25-06 02:47 AM   #11 
   n/t  Oversea Visitor   Apr-25-06 02:52 AM   #12 
   I'm sorry that post is in here. It drains you to get broadsided by  roguevalley   Apr-25-06 03:40 AM   #14 
      I agree very much with what you said - most of us do.  blm   Apr-25-06 10:09 AM   #28 
   You have my sympathy  Mythsaje   Apr-25-06 03:42 AM   #15 
   I am so sorry...  Iowa   Apr-25-06 04:28 AM   #17 
   A kick and a hug  Oversea Visitor   Apr-25-06 05:14 AM   #18 
   I am so sorry to hear this, sounds like your sis and family have been  madokie   Apr-25-06 05:29 AM   #19 
   Still praying that you and your sister get the help you need.  nicknameless   Apr-25-06 05:36 AM   #20 
   Money vs. Human Life: "compassionate conservatism" in action.  Cant_wait_for_2008   Apr-25-06 07:54 AM   #21 
   I am so sorry. Is there ANYTHING at all that can be done to save her?  Joe Fields   Apr-25-06 08:27 AM   #22 
   I hope you don't mind  bamapachyderm   Apr-25-06 09:29 AM   #25 
   And there's all the rhetoric about the government making health care  BlueEyedSon   Apr-25-06 09:49 AM   #26 
   So sick.  knitter4democracy   Apr-25-06 10:06 AM   #27 
   does your husband perhaps know any other physicians  lavenderdiva   Apr-25-06 12:29 PM   #36 
      We don't.  knitter4democracy   Apr-25-06 06:32 PM   #44 
   why the hell anyone would CHOOSE to reside in Texas is beyond me.  QuestionAll   Apr-25-06 10:14 AM   #29 
   Well  readmoreoften   Apr-25-06 10:10 PM   #61 
      Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-06 10:34 PM   #63 
         If you've spent any amount of time in Texas, you know this isn't true.  readmoreoften   Apr-26-06 02:27 PM   #90 
         Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-26-06 08:10 PM   #99 
   this is not right  annces8   Apr-25-06 10:20 AM   #30 
   glad my advance directive states that no one makes any decisions for me  RGBolen   Apr-25-06 10:24 AM   #31 
   If you're in Texas, it won't matter.  knitter4democracy   Apr-25-06 06:34 PM   #45 
      What would that have to do with my not allowing family member to  RGBolen   Apr-25-06 10:54 PM   #65 
         It's the advanced directive that gets ignored.  knitter4democracy   Apr-26-06 08:15 AM   #72 
   The doctors do not want to kill your sister.  sparosnare   Apr-25-06 10:46 AM   #32 
   I believe they went through all the options  melissinha   Apr-25-06 12:07 PM   #33 
   My main question - can she recover?  sparosnare   Apr-25-06 12:21 PM   #35 
   My sister was deemed terminal five years ago  Th1onein   Apr-25-06 01:04 PM   #37 
      All of you are in my prayers.......  OhioChick   Apr-25-06 01:26 PM   #38 
      If you have a physician who says she might get well -  sparosnare   Apr-25-06 05:10 PM   #42 
      CAN SOMEONE FORWARD THIS TO HER SISTER?  wcaryk   Apr-25-06 10:10 PM   #60 
         That sounds like a very good idea. At the very least, it would delay  Catrina   Apr-26-06 02:59 AM   #69 
            POSSIBLE LEGAL INTERVENTION (YO, CATRINA?)  wcaryk   Apr-26-06 01:13 PM   #84 
               Hi wcaryk, Yes, I did PM your post to her sister. I hope she received it.  Catrina   Apr-26-06 01:29 PM   #85 
                  Some legalese -- and a rather disturbing article  wcaryk   Apr-26-06 02:01 PM   #88 
                     I have just received a PM from Andrea's sister. She did get your  Catrina   Apr-26-06 02:28 PM   #91 
                        Thanks, Catrina. Actually, there's a funny story...  wcaryk   Apr-26-06 03:19 PM   #96 
   Nat Hentoff  bamapachyderm   Apr-25-06 05:20 PM   #43 
   This is why I'm involved  knitter4democracy   Apr-25-06 06:36 PM   #46 
   What the family is ASKING for is time to move her, but...  Tigress DEM   Apr-27-06 09:13 PM   #107 
   n/t  Oversea Visitor   Apr-25-06 12:14 PM   #34 
   Houston Chronicle  bamapachyderm   Apr-25-06 04:28 PM   #40 
   Lone Star Times  uppityperson   Apr-25-06 10:07 PM   #58 
      Ooh, that's a good one.  knitter4democracy   Apr-26-06 08:16 AM   #73 
   I just gave the info to a screener for Randi Rhodes  liberalla   Apr-25-06 05:00 PM   #41 
   A hospital isn't a nursing home  Courtney_L   Apr-25-06 08:21 PM   #48 
   Your reply is good for people like Terri Schiavo but  liberalla   Apr-25-06 09:21 PM   #51 
   It sounds like she doesn't require acute care any longer. A long term care  kikiek   Apr-25-06 10:03 PM   #57 
      They found one, and the social worker lied to them.  knitter4democracy   Apr-26-06 08:20 AM   #74 
         I'm sorry, but this just cannot be true. A social worker who ...  farish   Apr-26-06 11:01 AM   #83 
            I checked into it.  knitter4democracy   Apr-26-06 02:59 PM   #93 
            Do you mind saying how you checked into it? And do you  farish   Apr-27-06 12:50 PM   #102 
               I talked with the Director of Nursing.  knitter4democracy   Apr-28-06 09:14 AM   #112 
            A quick google on social workers charged with crimes  PublicWrath   Apr-27-06 05:56 PM   #104 
   sure  bamapachyderm   Apr-25-06 09:35 PM   #53 
   You raise some very good points. If the medical evidence backs up the  kikiek   Apr-25-06 09:58 PM   #55 
   Excuse me, but I think you have your facts wrong.  Th1onein   Apr-25-06 10:46 PM   #64 
   This is not a Terri Schiavo case  conflictgirl   Apr-26-06 01:19 AM   #67 
   People with infinite trust in the system have never been in its grasp.  PublicWrath   Apr-27-06 03:06 AM   #100 
   You are wrong on many counts...  Iowa   Apr-26-06 03:58 AM   #70 
   Nail, meet hammer, Iowa, you NAILED IT!  DiverDave   Apr-26-06 10:09 AM   #81 
   I'm an internist's wife, and I disagree with you on many points.  knitter4democracy   Apr-26-06 08:34 AM   #76 
      What are the odds that they are trying to bury their mistake?  elehhhhna   Apr-26-06 08:58 AM   #79 
         I had the same thought as you.  Dora   Apr-26-06 01:37 PM   #87 
         They do seem to be circling the wagons.  knitter4democracy   Apr-26-06 03:04 PM   #95 
         I'm not sure it's that.  knitter4democracy   Apr-26-06 03:02 PM   #94 
   Health Care became a business years ago  Kansas Wyatt   Apr-25-06 09:13 PM   #50 
   Exactly!  liberalla   Apr-25-06 09:27 PM   #52 
   I imagine insurance companies wrote and paid for this law.  BrightKnight   Apr-26-06 02:53 AM   #68 
      It would be nice to think blame could be placed so simply  sndrake   May-01-06 03:57 PM   #117 
   Th1onein  area51   Apr-25-06 10:03 PM   #56 
   I was going to move my parents to TX, but now I'm not.  readmoreoften   Apr-25-06 10:08 PM   #59 
   I'm sorry this is happening.  Cobalt Violet   Apr-25-06 10:21 PM   #62 
   I am so sad for you and your sister..  undergroundpanther   Apr-26-06 12:56 AM   #66 
   Hugs to you, Th1onein  UpInArms   Apr-26-06 04:31 AM   #71 
   Th1onein - How are things looking today? n/t  bamapachyderm   Apr-26-06 08:54 AM   #77 
   Any protests scheduled today or tomorrow?  elehhhhna   Apr-26-06 08:56 AM   #78 
   Kick!  Roland99   Apr-26-06 09:35 AM   #80 
   Give us the names of these ghouls  DiverDave   Apr-26-06 10:13 AM   #82 
   Yes, and have any of the 'right to life' crowd stepped forward to do  Catrina   Apr-26-06 01:34 PM   #86 
   My sister is covered by Blue Cross Blue Shield  Th1onein   Apr-26-06 02:20 PM   #89 
      Thank you for posting this update!  liberalla   Apr-26-06 04:11 PM   #97 
      I hope Dr. Ron Giveon  HawkeyeX   Apr-26-06 08:04 PM   #98 
      Keep fighting  malaise   Apr-27-06 06:32 PM   #106 
   I'm so sorry this is happening  KingFlorez   Apr-26-06 02:38 PM   #92 
   Glad to hear the Right to Life people are helping  locke22   Apr-27-06 05:36 AM   #101 
   Im glad to hear it as well. I didn't realize they have been helping.  shance   Apr-27-06 03:28 PM   #103 
   k & r-. heartwrenching and totally maddening... we're with you  bj2110   Apr-27-06 06:00 PM   #105 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-27-06 10:45 PM   #109 
   huh?  bamapachyderm   Apr-28-06 02:40 AM   #110 
   One Outraged Person?  Yvonne   Apr-28-06 09:00 AM   #111 
   Allow me to put some insight into your comment.  rasputin1952DU Moderator   Apr-28-06 09:30 AM   #113 
   UPDATE ON ANDREA CLARK  Yvonne   Apr-29-06 01:07 PM   #114 
   thanks for the update, Yvonne...  lavenderdiva   Apr-29-06 02:04 PM   #115 
   Yvonne, you and your family have our support (Not Dead Yet)  sndrake   May-01-06 01:07 PM   #116 
   5/2/06 Andrea Update  Yvonne   May-02-06 06:29 PM   #118 
 

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