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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:22 AM
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40. Lack of perspective, perhaps...?
We are all on the same side but we are all individuals as well. We criticize our opponents for being ditto heads yet don't you see that shutting out alternative views makes us look the same? A few in the group see any perspective that differs as threatening--that is sad. Advice to "less fortunate sisters" is seen as being condescending or insulting. The women's liberation movement did liberate us legally but that doesn't mean equality drops in our lap--we need to take it sometimes. The glass ceiling does exist, misogynism is alive and well and we still have a lot of work to do in society, however, cutting off members in our body/group does harm.

Pointing out and criticizing is only the first step and sometimes a little stealth is required to change behavior.
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  -Why do we see so few working class women portrayed? ccbombs  Jun-28-05 04:19 PM   #0 
  - Don't watch enough movies to comment but I am thinking that movies  efhmc   Jun-28-05 04:34 PM   #1 
  - Oh yeah there are movies like that  ccbombs   Jun-28-05 04:45 PM   #2 
     - I liked that movie. What was the second one like.?  efhmc   Jun-28-05 04:55 PM   #3 
  - It's the same reason most blacks  Warpy   Jun-28-05 06:07 PM   #4 
  - Roseanne was a rarity  ccbombs   Jun-28-05 09:38 PM   #8 
  - I think like everything,  Heddi   Jun-28-05 06:30 PM   #5 
  - Wonderful story, wonderful post, wonderful you. Thanks for sharing some  efhmc   Jun-28-05 06:54 PM   #6 
  - Thanks yourself  Heddi   Jun-28-05 07:47 PM   #7 
  - No! Your post has everything to do with mine!  ccbombs   Jun-28-05 09:59 PM   #9 
  - Believe it or not, Japanese TV is more realistic in that respect  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-30-05 11:52 AM   #50 
  - Great post.  raccoon   Oct-31-05 02:39 PM   #55 
  - Grace under Fire  lwfern   Jun-28-05 10:26 PM   #10 
  - Thats another one but it's not on anymore. n/t  ccbombs   Jun-29-05 12:19 AM   #13 
  - Are you kidding?  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-28-05 11:00 PM   #11 
  - Wow! What an impressive list of modern shows  Heddi   Jun-28-05 11:27 PM   #12 
  - Oh  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-29-05 08:26 AM   #15 
     - Well I suppose the same could be said for racial minorities  Heddi   Jun-29-05 01:29 PM   #20 
        - You're absolutely correct  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-29-05 02:23 PM   #21 
        - You honestly don't think you're condescending?  ccbombs   Jun-29-05 03:00 PM   #23 
        - As intended  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-29-05 03:16 PM   #24 
           - I did read that book  ccbombs   Jun-29-05 06:54 PM   #31 
              - Escapism  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-29-05 07:03 PM   #32 
                 - So where do dramas fit in your entertainment-only theory?  lukasahero   Jun-30-05 09:24 AM   #41 
                    - I don't understand your question, sorry  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-30-05 11:11 AM   #47 
                       - But earlier you said "there's not much that's entertaining about poverty"  lukasahero   Jun-30-05 11:30 AM   #49 
        - To the contrary, I don't dislike you at all  Heddi   Jun-29-05 05:04 PM   #27 
           - So,  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-29-05 05:36 PM   #28 
              - I knew you would ask to see such posts  Heddi   Jun-29-05 08:25 PM   #33 
              - great post, thanks, Heddi!  spooky3   Jun-29-05 08:30 PM   #34 
              - You do not come across as harsh  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-29-05 08:48 PM   #35 
                 - I feel this, again, is a wasted effort  Heddi   Jun-29-05 09:30 PM   #36 
              - Regarding "you seem to be dismissive of those of us who take offense"  lukasahero   Jun-30-05 10:46 AM   #44 
                 - Yowza!  ccbombs   Jun-30-05 11:03 AM   #46 
        - Sometimes people who post on this site  ccbombs   Jun-29-05 02:56 PM   #22 
           - "it affects my self-image"  Finder   Jun-29-05 03:17 PM   #25 
              - I found this to be the case myself as well  Heddi   Jun-29-05 04:55 PM   #26 
              - I wish I were immune!  ccbombs   Jun-29-05 06:30 PM   #30 
              - "Being feminists we should be immune."  lukasahero   Jun-30-05 09:48 AM   #42 
                 - I agree, we must discuss how to change it....  Finder   Jun-30-05 10:18 AM   #43 
                 - I would like to agree that seeing "their less than perfect mothers" etc  lukasahero   Jun-30-05 02:47 PM   #52 
                    - Good points...  Finder   Jun-30-05 03:30 PM   #53 
                       - Yes, the situation has improved but it has a long way to go  lukasahero   Jul-01-05 07:19 AM   #54 
                 - "Get over it"...... Aaargh!!  ccbombs   Jun-30-05 11:18 AM   #48 
  - None of them are on anymore  ccbombs   Jun-29-05 12:23 AM   #14 
  - I think  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-29-05 08:29 AM   #16 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-05 01:03 PM   #18 
     - How the hell can you think for one SECOND....  chicaloca   Jun-29-05 05:42 PM   #29 
        - We live in different worlds  OldLeftieLawyer   Jun-29-05 09:48 PM   #37 
        - Okay  ccbombs   Jun-30-05 01:21 AM   #38 
        - well, I'm sorry...  chicaloca   Jun-30-05 11:02 AM   #45 
        - Once again  ccbombs   Jun-30-05 02:01 AM   #39 
           - Lack of perspective, perhaps...?  Finder   Jun-30-05 08:22 AM   #40 
  - I'm seeing the "we're only giving people what they want" excuse  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-30-05 12:10 PM   #51 
  - I don't watch TV but here are a few...  Finder   Jun-29-05 09:08 AM   #17 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-05 01:08 PM   #19 
  - for ca 4 years I watched many soaps ....... very few women were  bobbieinok   Nov-07-05 02:14 AM   #56 
 

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