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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:01 PM
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24. I could get behind Feingold...
Or someone like him. I would prefer a governor or former governor given the history of Senators in Presidential politics in the last 11 election cycles.

I like the issues. Too many Dems back Unfair trade.

Even many of the hardcore Republican voters hate the Patriot Act in whole or in part.
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  -OK moderates, hit us progressives with your best shot Ken Burch  May-26-05 05:31 PM   #0 
  - No. You first.  Inland   May-26-05 05:40 PM   #1 
  - blacks are like what, 13% of the population?  expatriot   May-26-05 05:43 PM   #2 
  - This is demand time. What do progressives have to offer?  Inland   May-26-05 05:50 PM   #4 
     - you BLEW IT in florida. the civil rights consensus  xchrom   May-26-05 06:01 PM   #5 
     - Missed the part where someone says what progressives bring.  Inland   May-26-05 06:08 PM   #7 
        - Its the 1960s, would you throw away equal rights for a dem win?  dbonds   May-26-05 06:29 PM   #10 
        - Not sure how this answers the question.  Inland   May-26-05 07:18 PM   #12 
        - My point was a sense of right and wrong.  dbonds   May-26-05 07:26 PM   #14 
        - Facts, not opinion....  thegreatwildebeest   Jun-12-05 04:41 PM   #67 
        - Arguably, the Kennedys were perfectly willing to do so before 1962 or '63  Ken Burch   May-26-05 07:50 PM   #18 
        - BTW:  dbonds   May-26-05 06:50 PM   #11 
        - The OP didn't ask what was best.  Inland   May-26-05 07:21 PM   #13 
        - OK  dbonds   May-26-05 07:40 PM   #15 
        - First of all Inland, I respect you for engaging the topic...  Ken Burch   May-26-05 07:43 PM   #16 
           - I think your premise is wrong.  Inland   May-26-05 08:50 PM   #21 
              - Unfortunately, the attitude you bring to the table  Ken Burch   May-26-05 09:00 PM   #23 
                 - You could at least offer a progressive foreign policy amongst your planks  Ken Burch   May-26-05 09:10 PM   #25 
                 - But it's the same attitude you brought to the table.  Inland   May-26-05 09:17 PM   #26 
                 - We are much better at grass roots politics  Ken Burch   May-26-05 10:06 PM   #27 
                    - Don't bother arguing...  thegreatwildebeest   Jun-10-05 12:11 AM   #64 
                 - Maybe a strong pro-gay Al Gore brings in more Nader votes  TheFarseer   May-26-05 10:47 PM   #29 
                    - If a moderate is scared away by gay-rights,  benevolent dictator   May-29-05 12:57 AM   #41 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-07-05 09:16 AM   #59 
           - Plenty of people were denied a voice  benevolent dictator   Jun-07-05 06:12 PM   #60 
        - There are a lot of progressive issues with wide popular support  Ken Burch   May-26-05 08:03 PM   #19 
        - TRUE DEMOCRACY and EQUALITY & JUSTICE FOR ALL!  PA Mamma   Jul-05-05 04:49 PM   #78 
     - Principles  Don1   May-28-05 12:04 AM   #37 
     - Haven't you seen and read all of that stuff  benevolent dictator   May-29-05 12:31 AM   #40 
     - Don't need to win elections...  thegreatwildebeest   Jun-12-05 04:08 PM   #66 
        - I know, and I was just addressing the point in #4 about  benevolent dictator   Jun-15-05 02:11 AM   #72 
     - What do moderates offer, except status quo?  saracat   Jun-02-05 03:04 AM   #52 
     - That's pretty uninformed.  Oerdin   Aug-23-05 11:00 PM   #83 
        - The Clintons gave up on universal health insurance  Ken Burch   Aug-25-05 02:24 AM   #84 
     - Accomodate?  inthebrain   Jun-07-05 11:41 PM   #61 
  - Just so I'm clear: you won't support equal rights for GLBT folk...  Zhade   Jun-11-05 09:57 PM   #65 
  - Progressives have a big problem.  Oerdin   Aug-23-05 10:52 PM   #82 
  - So...  salvorhardin   Dec-07-05 02:49 PM   #85 
  - I think the pressure is on you to give something up  TheFarseer   May-26-05 05:45 PM   #3 
  - I'm going to assume you're a straight man  benevolent dictator   May-29-05 01:04 AM   #42 
  - My point was, we gave EVERYTHING up in '92 and '96  Ken Burch   Jun-03-05 06:34 PM   #56 
  - YOU ask specifically each question you want answered, and I will at least  patricia92243   May-26-05 06:06 PM   #6 
  - Going to the middle has not given us an advantage.  dbonds   May-26-05 06:16 PM   #8 
  - I think every one of these points are  LeftofU   Jun-02-05 11:02 PM   #53 
     - Most moderates want to dump gays and women off the back of their platform.  benevolent dictator   Jun-02-05 11:27 PM   #54 
  - I would think that a moderate..  MrSandman   May-26-05 06:20 PM   #9 
  - Potentially, especially if moderates don't start doing everything possible  Ken Burch   May-26-05 07:48 PM   #17 
     - Specifically, who is this J. Doe?  MrSandman   May-26-05 08:19 PM   #20 
        - Duplicate message deleted by sender.  Ken Burch   May-26-05 08:54 PM   # 
        - Give these a try  Ken Burch   May-26-05 08:54 PM   #22 
           - I could get behind Feingold...  MrSandman   May-26-05 09:01 PM   #24 
  - Progressives would LOVE to see moderates emphasize economic issues,  Lydia Leftcoast   May-26-05 10:18 PM   #28 
  - What are the real differences here  ndcohn   May-27-05 01:43 AM   #30 
  - Excellent point and welcome to DU!  MaineDem   May-27-05 07:32 AM   #31 
  - Nothing hurt us more with working class voters  Ken Burch   May-27-05 04:59 PM   #32 
     - Exactly, the Beltway pundits have NO IDEA how much  Lydia Leftcoast   May-27-05 05:13 PM   #33 
     - These differences are too small to justify different classifications  ndcohn   May-27-05 11:20 PM   #35 
        - I agreed with the basic points of your post pretty much up until...  benevolent dictator   May-29-05 01:32 AM   #43 
           - i dont disagree with you  ndcohn   May-29-05 07:28 PM   #47 
              - But I don't think that supporting a ban on it IS politically expedient.  benevolent dictator   May-30-05 04:01 AM   #49 
  - Economic Policy Changes  unlawflcombatnt   May-27-05 08:31 PM   #34 
  - Sure,  Akno21   May-27-05 11:27 PM   #36 
  - Maybe if Kerry had reframed those issues instead of letting the  benevolent dictator   May-29-05 01:55 AM   #44 
  - Important Issues & Irresponsible Media Coverage  unlawflcombatnt   May-29-05 06:55 PM   #45 
     - I agree that media spin and consolidation is a big problem  benevolent dictator   May-30-05 04:14 AM   #50 
  - Well said, Akno21  caitlyn   Aug-16-05 12:08 PM   #81 
  - These differences are too small to justify different classifications  ndcohn   May-28-05 12:16 AM   #38 
  - if fair trade continues the practise  xchrom   May-28-05 09:51 AM   #39 
  - Outsourcing, Slave Labor, & CAFTA  unlawflcombatnt   May-29-05 07:06 PM   #46 
     - So then Moderates would tend to disagree with this:  ndcohn   May-29-05 07:33 PM   #48 
        - moderates don't tend to disagree with  xchrom   May-30-05 09:43 AM   #51 
           - Moderates also don't favor having Democrats try to set the agenda  Ken Burch   Jun-03-05 04:35 PM   #55 
  - Because this is a conservative country--at best a moderate one.  geek tragedy   Jun-06-05 10:01 AM   #57 
  - It's kind of funny, progressives and moderates both dislike John Kerry  Hippo_Tron   Aug-15-05 02:21 AM   #79 
     - I don't dislike John Kerry  ProgressAlwaysWins   Dec-25-05 03:16 PM   #89 
  - Dems took all the wrong lessons from Clinton adminstration  ACK   Jun-07-05 05:56 AM   #58 
  - Some have a lot to learn!!!!!  inthebrain   Jun-07-05 11:57 PM   #62 
  - Good point  ACK   Jun-08-05 03:12 PM   #63 
  - I think we could ease back a bit on gun control but not necessarily  Ken Burch   Jun-15-05 06:18 PM   #74 
  - Moderates  ASIANDEMMN2006   Jun-13-05 09:34 PM   #68 
  - moderates of either party didn't support civil rights, equal rights  xchrom   Jun-14-05 04:10 AM   #69 
  - Moderates  ASIANDEMMN2006   Jun-14-05 10:59 AM   #70 
     - it would be huge -- and nothing would ever happen of significance  xchrom   Jun-15-05 02:22 PM   #73 
  - I beg to differ....  inthebrain   Jun-15-05 01:12 AM   #71 
  - You didn't bring ANY moderates over to us in 2002 and 2004.  Ken Burch   Jun-15-05 06:21 PM   #75 
  - "Progressive's" record in Presidential races  wyldwolf   Jul-04-05 12:09 PM   #76 
  - Someone reports having cake, not being able to eat it...  thegreatwildebeest   Jul-04-05 11:39 PM   #77 
     - Let's analyze, shall we?  wyldwolf   Dec-27-05 05:52 PM   #90 
  - I just want somebody with PASSION  Hippo_Tron   Aug-15-05 02:27 AM   #80 
  - Why are so called "Progressives" always begging us to beg them?  NNadir   Dec-18-05 03:35 PM   #86 
  - well, that just about sums it up!  wyldwolf   Dec-22-05 04:59 PM   #87 
  - I wasn't asking moderates to "beg".  Ken Burch   Dec-23-05 06:31 PM   #88 
  - Kos owes Dems a big apology  Politus   Jan-01-06 11:05 PM   #91 
     - KOS is an amatuer  Moderate Donkey   Jan-02-06 04:26 PM   #92 
 

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