| 17. BTW: Thanks, XemaSab. |
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I desperately need to talk about this book, but none of my normal reader friends are yet done with it. (One is reading it with his daughter, who is spending the summer with her mother, so he's reading it at her pace; one is at a conference this weekend, and my partner has decided that he needs to read The Darkness That Comes Before right now.)
So thank you from the bottom of my wordy, bookish heart.
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| -SPOILER THREAD! SPOILER THREAD! |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 09:05 PM |
#0 |
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I just finished it. |
BlackVelvetElvis |
Jul-16-05 09:15 PM |
#1 |
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I was SHOCKED.... |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 09:42 PM |
#3 |
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Not shocked. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jul-16-05 10:13 PM |
#6 |
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I'm with you that Snape's going to |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 10:20 PM |
#7 |
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But what was he begging for? |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jul-16-05 10:37 PM |
#8 |
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I think Snape's history. |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 10:44 PM |
#10 |
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On reread |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 11:15 AM |
#62 |
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I believe that. |
Pithy Cherub |
Jul-17-05 09:39 AM |
#59 |
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Last night I wasn't quite there |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 11:14 AM |
#61 |
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I agree. |
LWolf |
Jul-17-05 08:19 PM |
#73 |
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dupe n/t |
LWolf |
Jul-17-05 08:21 PM |
#74 |
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I also hope Snape is redeemed in the end, but I have my doubts. |
Ilsa |
Jul-24-05 07:47 AM |
#225 |
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I kept thinkin the HBP was Tom Riddle |
malmapus |
Jul-17-05 09:41 PM |
#80 |
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Not that way, no.... |
politicat |
Jul-16-05 09:34 PM |
#2 |
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For sure |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 09:43 PM |
#4 |
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The short answers? No, no. |
politicat |
Jul-16-05 11:29 PM |
#12 |
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Definately. |
lildreamer316 |
Jul-16-05 11:37 PM |
#13 |
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How did he NOT tear Snape apart??? |
malmapus |
Jul-17-05 09:45 PM |
#81 |
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The books have been so school focused |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 11:43 PM |
#15 |
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How about the reference the Shrub |
SharonRB |
Jul-18-05 11:39 AM |
#96 |
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About that first chapter. |
GhostThatWalks |
Jul-19-05 08:38 AM |
#157 |
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so if the PM is supposed to be John Major, his predecessor ... |
Lisa |
Jul-17-05 07:37 PM |
#71 |
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I think some of the 7th book needs to be at Hogwarts--as a base |
lulu in NC |
Jul-19-05 09:58 PM |
#191 |
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My question is why. I hate cliffhangers. |
uppityperson |
Jul-16-05 10:11 PM |
#5 |
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Did anyone even see |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 10:37 PM |
#9 |
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mmm; I think I'm on Spyder's side too...just finished it. |
lildreamer316 |
Jul-16-05 11:23 PM |
#11 |
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Dumbledore begged Snape to kill him. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Jul-16-05 11:44 PM |
#16 |
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Interesting take on the argument |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 11:52 PM |
#20 |
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On the felix potion: |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 12:08 AM |
#24 |
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Ah, very good! Some think Jesus actually asked Judas to turn |
soothsayer |
Jul-17-05 04:32 AM |
#58 |
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I personally think that DD knew that Snape was the only |
xmas74 |
Jul-18-05 06:50 PM |
#136 |
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Yeah, calling him a coward |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 07:26 PM |
#139 |
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That's what I thought. |
xmas74 |
Jul-18-05 08:07 PM |
#142 |
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These speculations are making me feel better about Snape |
Ilsa |
Jul-24-05 08:08 AM |
#226 |
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X post from re-read thread: My prediction accuracy..... |
politicat |
Jul-16-05 11:41 PM |
#14 |
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I agree that this book was very---taut |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 11:46 PM |
#18 |
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BTW: Thanks, XemaSab. |
politicat |
Jul-16-05 11:45 PM |
#17 |
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You're welcome |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 11:48 PM |
#19 |
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One thing pointed out |
XemaSab |
Jul-16-05 11:55 PM |
#21 |
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Honestly...kinda. |
Hong Kong Cavalier |
Jul-17-05 12:03 AM |
#22 |
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It was necessary, sadly. |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:12 AM |
#33 |
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True, true |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:17 AM |
#34 |
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Sorry to nitpick you but this is funny: |
lildreamer316 |
Jul-19-05 06:48 PM |
#186 |
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I saw that! |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 10:51 AM |
#201 |
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According to queeg the non-donor: |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 12:05 AM |
#23 |
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Harry only says that it's 24 hours worth. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Jul-17-05 12:09 AM |
#25 |
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true |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 12:15 AM |
#26 |
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Contradicting the Snape's a goody in disguise..... |
politicat |
Jul-17-05 12:17 AM |
#27 |
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Agreed |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 12:23 AM |
#28 |
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Yeah; but |
lildreamer316 |
Jul-17-05 12:29 AM |
#29 |
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There's a point |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 12:34 AM |
#30 |
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Can Occlumency fool a spell? |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:05 AM |
#31 |
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How so? |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:07 AM |
#32 |
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Like a mask, maybe |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:19 AM |
#35 |
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So you're asking |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:24 AM |
#37 |
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Yep |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:34 AM |
#39 |
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Good call |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:40 AM |
#40 |
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What can I say |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:44 AM |
#43 |
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Like she's not already? |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:51 AM |
#47 |
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R.A.B. |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:21 AM |
#36 |
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That seems to be |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:25 AM |
#38 |
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Good to see I'm not the only one that jumped out at. |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:40 AM |
#41 |
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Hee |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:43 AM |
#42 |
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Hm |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:46 AM |
#44 |
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Totally |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:51 AM |
#48 |
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Which would make sense; |
lildreamer316 |
Jul-17-05 03:22 AM |
#56 |
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It's interesting to see |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 11:13 PM |
#147 |
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Stolen by Mundungus, if you ask me. . . |
brensgrrl |
Jul-19-05 11:06 PM |
#195 |
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There's a locket |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 02:02 AM |
#52 |
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You've found it! |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 02:26 AM |
#54 |
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night |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 02:29 AM |
#55 |
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Kreacher was stealing things from the house |
Lavender Brown |
Jul-18-05 12:12 PM |
#101 |
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Totally |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 12:36 PM |
#104 |
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From an interview with JKR |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:48 AM |
#45 |
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Bizarre idea: |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jul-18-05 10:12 PM |
#146 |
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I don't think |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 11:14 PM |
#148 |
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Can a human be a Horcrux? |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:50 AM |
#46 |
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Like, uh, maybe |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 01:52 AM |
#49 |
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Possibly |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 01:55 AM |
#50 |
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Exactly |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 02:00 AM |
#51 |
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that crossed my mind |
dwickham |
Jul-17-05 03:42 AM |
#57 |
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I don't think the transfer itself was an accident now |
malmapus |
Jul-18-05 01:27 PM |
#105 |
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If LV can use Nagini as as a Horcrux, surely a human would work, too. n/t |
intheflow |
Jul-17-05 05:13 PM |
#68 |
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That probably why |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 09:29 PM |
#78 |
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i hadn't even thought of that! |
Lisa |
Jul-17-05 07:50 PM |
#72 |
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Just thought of another clue re:horcruxes |
lulu in NC |
Jul-19-05 11:01 PM |
#193 |
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Interesting thought-- |
brensgrrl |
Jul-21-05 10:42 PM |
#222 |
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There's a discussion |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 02:08 AM |
#53 |
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That was my first impression, actually. |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 11:22 AM |
#63 |
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This book charmed me, made me cry, made me laugh out loud |
Pithy Cherub |
Jul-17-05 09:56 AM |
#60 |
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Tyrants! |
intheflow |
Jul-17-05 06:04 PM |
#70 |
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I stand by my theory |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 11:25 AM |
#64 |
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Ooooo that won't go over well with Aunt Petunia |
malmapus |
Jul-17-05 09:52 PM |
#82 |
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Probably |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 10:10 PM |
#84 |
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Major thoughts in the sober light of day: |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 11:47 AM |
#65 |
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I didn't see it coming but I believe that Dumbledor did. Like the |
loudestchick |
Jul-17-05 04:12 PM |
#66 |
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Ok, wild theory time: |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-05 04:12 PM |
#67 |
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could Harry have a horcrux |
outraged2 |
Jul-17-05 09:04 PM |
#75 |
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Could Dumbledore have a Horcrux? |
realFedUp |
Jul-19-05 02:38 PM |
#166 |
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You have to kill someone |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 03:02 PM |
#167 |
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Oh, that's right....nt |
realFedUp |
Jul-19-05 05:49 PM |
#172 |
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Really? Are you certain he never killed any Deatheaters during |
ET Awful |
Jul-19-05 06:09 PM |
#175 |
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Could they both be eachother's horcruxes? |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 09:18 PM |
#76 |
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Interesting thought |
malmapus |
Jul-18-05 08:23 AM |
#87 |
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From my understanding in order to make a horcruxes |
malmapus |
Jul-17-05 10:02 PM |
#83 |
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That's what I recall |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 10:34 AM |
#90 |
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I'm really thinking that Harry is a horcruxes of Voldermort now |
malmapus |
Jul-18-05 10:44 AM |
#94 |
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Priori incantatem |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 12:06 PM |
#99 |
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Though I said earlier I didn't think Harry could be a horcruxes, |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 05:01 PM |
#124 |
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I still think it wasn't on purpose |
TimeChaser |
Jul-18-05 05:07 PM |
#125 |
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My train of thought is that |
malmapus |
Jul-18-05 05:07 PM |
#126 |
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But Voldemort didn't do it on purpose. |
Pithy Cherub |
Jul-18-05 05:16 PM |
#127 |
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I think that's |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 05:46 PM |
#132 |
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Good point =) |
malmapus |
Jul-18-05 06:48 PM |
#135 |
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Wow, the Smith/Smith thing went right past me--good catch! n/t |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 07:27 PM |
#140 |
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I totally saw the Harry/Ginny hook up. |
intheflow |
Jul-17-05 05:55 PM |
#69 |
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Lupin/Tonks made my day |
TimeChaser |
Jul-17-05 09:22 PM |
#77 |
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As far as Luna goes, |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 10:37 AM |
#91 |
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I think Luna & Neville will be hooking up. |
Rainbowreflect |
Jul-18-05 12:28 PM |
#103 |
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Sadly |
TimeChaser |
Jul-18-05 03:30 PM |
#118 |
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Whoa |
malmapus |
Jul-17-05 09:41 PM |
#79 |
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Just finished it... |
deadparrot |
Jul-18-05 12:45 AM |
#85 |
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I'm with you there |
malmapus |
Jul-18-05 08:14 AM |
#86 |
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Just finished it Sunday night -- |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 09:33 AM |
#88 |
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Good ideas.... |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 10:40 AM |
#92 |
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Loved the book, hated the death - so senseless! What was gained there? |
robbedvoter |
Jul-18-05 09:51 AM |
#89 |
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Dumbledore is dead |
Pithy Cherub |
Jul-18-05 11:09 AM |
#95 |
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From a literary standpoint, DD's death |
intheflow |
Jul-18-05 11:39 AM |
#97 |
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Is Harry going to be the new leader of the Order? |
Pithy Cherub |
Jul-18-05 02:20 PM |
#107 |
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I'm calling flitwick for assistant head |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 02:35 PM |
#109 |
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Can't Lupin be DADA teacher again? And Tonks would have plenty |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 05:38 PM |
#130 |
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Not altogether a bad call |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 06:19 PM |
#133 |
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I agree the post seems cursed, but is it? But the real Mad Eye would |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 07:24 PM |
#137 |
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They said |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 07:29 PM |
#141 |
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I forgot that bit! Looks like I read it too fast, and can't do a reread |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 08:26 PM |
#143 |
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My SO is traveling this week. |
intheflow |
Jul-18-05 09:51 PM |
#145 |
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I'm rereading |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 11:16 PM |
#149 |
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Well, Snape sure as hell won't be - JKR said that much! |
robbedvoter |
Jul-19-05 01:01 PM |
#163 |
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You don't think Snape's going to be |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 01:04 PM |
#164 |
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Good point. And wasn't Sirius also killed near the end of the |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 05:45 PM |
#131 |
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Asked in post 93: |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 11:58 AM |
#98 |
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What's going to happen |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 10:42 AM |
#93 |
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"Will Voldemort be able to use servants that DD died to protect?" |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 05:21 PM |
#128 |
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What was the spell Snape hit Harry with |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 12:08 PM |
#100 |
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Sort of a slap of some kind or other-- |
brensgrrl |
Jul-21-05 10:46 PM |
#223 |
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Derivation of the word "horcrux"? |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 12:13 PM |
#102 |
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According to Merriam-Webster online... |
intheflow |
Jul-18-05 02:34 PM |
#108 |
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I was going with |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 02:37 PM |
#110 |
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"Storehouse" seems likely, in that a horcrux stores a piece of |
lulu in NC |
Jul-18-05 05:23 PM |
#129 |
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Ollivander's disappearance |
intheflow |
Jul-18-05 02:18 PM |
#106 |
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Fawkes was Dumbledore's patronus, JKR said |
Lavender Brown |
Jul-18-05 03:14 PM |
#111 |
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She said |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 03:19 PM |
#112 |
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Hmm. |
Lavender Brown |
Jul-18-05 03:22 PM |
#114 |
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I think DD's going to live on |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 03:33 PM |
#119 |
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One in the headmaster's office |
Lavender Brown |
Jul-18-05 03:38 PM |
#120 |
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I don't think the trading cards |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 03:41 PM |
#121 |
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His parents are on the cards? |
Lavender Brown |
Jul-18-05 03:44 PM |
#122 |
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His parents aren't on the cards |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 04:15 PM |
#123 |
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It seems to me that oil paintings have talking mojo. |
intheflow |
Jul-18-05 06:41 PM |
#134 |
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true dat |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 07:25 PM |
#138 |
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When did JKR say that? |
intheflow |
Jul-18-05 03:20 PM |
#113 |
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Yes, I was confused. |
Lavender Brown |
Jul-18-05 03:23 PM |
#115 |
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Anagram |
TimeChaser |
Jul-18-05 03:26 PM |
#116 |
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Well that's not good |
Lavender Brown |
Jul-18-05 03:28 PM |
#117 |
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Dude, I just finished it! |
Chovexani |
Jul-18-05 09:36 PM |
#144 |
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Draco's with Myrtle |
XemaSab |
Jul-18-05 11:23 PM |
#150 |
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You know what's hilarious? |
Chovexani |
Jul-19-05 01:27 AM |
#154 |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 01:37 AM |
#155 |
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Oh dear |
TimeChaser |
Jul-19-05 12:21 AM |
#151 |
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I didn't even notice the back cover |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 12:25 AM |
#152 |
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Ya know |
Chovexani |
Jul-19-05 01:23 AM |
#153 |
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Well |
TimeChaser |
Jul-19-05 11:48 AM |
#161 |
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You don't think |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 12:21 PM |
#162 |
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He certainly thinks he is. |
TimeChaser |
Jul-19-05 01:45 PM |
#165 |
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I'm pissed JKR killed off DD before the 7th book-- |
lulu in NC |
Jul-19-05 09:17 PM |
#190 |
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So Harry learns that even the wisest adults can be WRONG |
Nothing Without Hope |
Jul-19-05 01:47 AM |
#156 |
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We all have some rereading to do... |
Pithy Cherub |
Jul-19-05 10:07 AM |
#158 |
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I agree - this is the coming of age book and also the transitional book |
Nothing Without Hope |
Jul-19-05 10:15 AM |
#159 |
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How can Regulus be alive if Harry can order Kreatcher around? |
Coventina |
Jul-20-05 06:33 PM |
#217 |
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Excellent call! |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 06:38 PM |
#218 |
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But I don't think DD was wrong about Snape. |
mondo joe |
Jul-19-05 06:17 PM |
#177 |
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Snape was NOT a bad guy. . . |
brensgrrl |
Jul-19-05 11:05 PM |
#194 |
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I reread SS and CoS last night |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 11:11 AM |
#160 |
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Whoa! Great catch! |
intheflow |
Jul-19-05 03:15 PM |
#168 |
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I wonder if the basilisk was one of the horcruxes. |
intheflow |
Jul-19-05 05:16 PM |
#169 |
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I was wondering about |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 05:33 PM |
#171 |
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Being possessed requires a whole spirit. |
intheflow |
Jul-19-05 07:15 PM |
#187 |
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you have quotes? |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 10:54 AM |
#202 |
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No, no quotes. |
intheflow |
Jul-20-05 11:41 AM |
#210 |
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It something we won't know |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 11:45 AM |
#211 |
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Good interview with JK Owling here: |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 05:30 PM |
#170 |
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This IS a good interview! |
intheflow |
Jul-19-05 08:19 PM |
#189 |
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Sorry about my "Owling" slip... |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 10:56 AM |
#203 |
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Okay, the one thing I haven't seen mentioned (and I haven't read EVERY |
ET Awful |
Jul-19-05 06:05 PM |
#173 |
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Dumbledore's not interested |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 06:08 PM |
#174 |
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Yes, but he's given Harry lectures on many things that have fallen |
ET Awful |
Jul-19-05 06:11 PM |
#176 |
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I'd sooner see Dumbledore |
XemaSab |
Jul-19-05 06:33 PM |
#181 |
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Ah but could not the pain and remorse of killing be just as effective |
ET Awful |
Jul-19-05 06:36 PM |
#183 |
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Incredible book... |
spuddonna |
Jul-19-05 06:21 PM |
#178 |
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A book that will become a classic |
Pithy Cherub |
Jul-19-05 08:00 PM |
#188 |
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Actually, yeah... I sort of did. |
LeftPeopleFinishFirst |
Jul-19-05 06:24 PM |
#179 |
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Agreed on the identity of the "Prince" |
ET Awful |
Jul-19-05 06:32 PM |
#180 |
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I thought it was too... |
LeftPeopleFinishFirst |
Jul-19-05 06:34 PM |
#182 |
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And the memory of him having had the spell that hung him by his ankle |
ET Awful |
Jul-19-05 06:38 PM |
#184 |
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yeah, really! |
LeftPeopleFinishFirst |
Jul-19-05 06:39 PM |
#185 |
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Deep-See Fishing for Red Herrings, or |
brensgrrl |
Jul-19-05 10:26 PM |
#192 |
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Excellent insights |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 11:30 AM |
#207 |
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Spoiler Warning---BIGTIME!!!!! |
brensgrrl |
Jul-20-05 10:24 PM |
#219 |
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Thanks for the repost |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 10:35 PM |
#220 |
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I have an odd question... |
Hong Kong Cavalier |
Jul-20-05 09:17 AM |
#196 |
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Good point. |
ET Awful |
Jul-20-05 09:43 AM |
#197 |
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So that begs the question: why was Dumbledore's death so different? |
Hong Kong Cavalier |
Jul-20-05 09:50 AM |
#198 |
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I tend to agree. |
ET Awful |
Jul-20-05 09:55 AM |
#199 |
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The answer is: |
Twillig |
Jul-20-05 03:29 PM |
#213 |
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Good points :) n/t |
ET Awful |
Jul-20-05 04:56 PM |
#215 |
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*smacks head on forehead* |
Hong Kong Cavalier |
Jul-20-05 05:42 PM |
#216 |
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I've noticed |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 10:59 AM |
#204 |
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I think that's depending on what the spell hits: the person or the wand. |
Hong Kong Cavalier |
Jul-20-05 11:34 AM |
#209 |
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It doesn't.. . . |
brensgrrl |
Jul-20-05 11:05 PM |
#221 |
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What I am curious about... |
outraged2 |
Jul-20-05 10:43 AM |
#200 |
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In CoS when Hagrid is being hauled off |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 11:11 AM |
#205 |
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agreed |
outraged2 |
Jul-20-05 11:18 AM |
#206 |
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Its. . . |
brensgrrl |
Jul-21-05 11:03 PM |
#224 |
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Dunno if I said this already |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 11:32 AM |
#208 |
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Hmmm, I don't think so. Voldemort didn't kill her, the basilisk did. |
ET Awful |
Jul-20-05 02:21 PM |
#212 |
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The basilisk killed her |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-05 04:10 PM |
#214 |
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I just finished today |
hertopos |
Jul-29-05 09:09 PM |
#227 |