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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. Agreed - that is the actual position - but you wouldn't know it if
you listened to the voices claiming to speak with authority. This is what lies behind all the codes calling this cardinal or that one conservative and liberal; what is the authentic teaching of the Catholic Church and who determines it? The fear that many of us have this week is that a group holding repessive views will try to turn the Church in that direction.
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  -Proposition: One reason the bishops responded so poorly hedgehog  Apr-15-05 03:50 AM   #0 
  - I think that's a bit of a stereotype...  regnaD kciN   Apr-15-05 05:43 AM   #1 
  - That's not it at all  AngryOldDem   Apr-15-05 04:23 PM   #2 
  - I agree with you, Angry Old Dem,..and I think the CYA aspect..  Princess Turandot   Apr-15-05 06:14 PM   #3 
     - Some other points  AngryOldDem   Apr-15-05 08:00 PM   #5 
     - You may have misunderstood by reference to money..  Princess Turandot   Apr-15-05 08:32 PM   #6 
     - Speaking of "the NAMBLA guy," a journalist who read his entire file  DemBones DemBones   Apr-15-05 09:24 PM   #7 
        - Sorry..  Princess Turandot   Apr-15-05 10:51 PM   #10 
           - I'm not defending Shanley, nor do I think the journalist is.  DemBones DemBones   Apr-15-05 11:53 PM   #13 
              - And I'm not referring to the court case..  Princess Turandot   Apr-16-05 11:45 AM   #17 
              - Could have fooled me  AngryOldDem   Apr-16-05 05:05 PM   #23 
  - Do you really believe that's what they're taught?  Tinoire   Apr-15-05 07:51 PM   #4 
  - Absolutely! The media drove the "pedophile priests" scandal and  DemBones DemBones   Apr-15-05 10:10 PM   #8 
  - Whenever I see that argument  AngryOldDem   Apr-16-05 04:54 PM   #22 
  - Look at the reply above about how the current crop of bishops  hedgehog   Apr-16-05 12:19 PM   #19 
     - The bottom line still is,  AngryOldDem   Apr-16-05 05:12 PM   #24 
        - Wow - that is so not what I said  hedgehog   Apr-16-05 08:37 PM   #26 
           - We're talking past each other  AngryOldDem   Apr-17-05 02:36 PM   #31 
  - The problem, IMO, was one of forgiveness.  Xithras   Apr-15-05 10:45 PM   #9 
  - I heard this discussed by the media..  Princess Turandot   Apr-15-05 11:08 PM   #11 
  - I have to disagree...something fundamental HAS changed.  Xithras   Apr-15-05 11:49 PM   #12 
     - I agree that it is theologically problematic.  DemBones DemBones   Apr-16-05 12:06 AM   #14 
     - Yes, there might be some that are sincerely repentant...  regnaD kciN   Apr-16-05 02:46 AM   #15 
     - I believe that confession without repentence is meaningless..  Princess Turandot   Apr-16-05 12:00 PM   #18 
  - I have to disagree with this, doctrinally  Maeve   Apr-16-05 12:58 PM   #21 
  - Is this the "seal of confession" aspect?  AngryOldDem   Apr-16-05 05:19 PM   #25 
  - Human sexuality was poorly understood, in general  Cuban_Liberal   Apr-16-05 06:56 AM   #16 
  - Short version- so many of these guys were taught in the 40's and  hedgehog   Apr-16-05 12:20 PM   #20 
     - For those who blame the problem on celibacy ,  hedgehog   Apr-16-05 08:47 PM   #27 
        - Actually, the Church's position on sex within marriage is not that narrow  Cuban_Liberal   Apr-16-05 09:21 PM   #28 
           - Agreed - that is the actual position - but you wouldn't know it if  hedgehog   Apr-16-05 09:31 PM   #29 
              - I harbor the same fears  Padraig18   Apr-17-05 07:17 AM   #30 
                 - Me three  AngryOldDem   Apr-17-05 02:43 PM   #32 
 

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