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12. I agree with you completely on this. All except Lieberman...
We have a lot of non-productive rabble-rousing on the left where we should have unity and commons sense. It's like the old adage: "If your're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem."

Too often self-interest always defeats the goal for the common good. The left might have some egalitarian ideals, but in practice, too many turn into something like K0S, who is so pumped up on his self-importance, that he loses as many opportunities for liberals as he creates.

Yes, I noticed Hagel's dissing of the partisan mud-slinging. That was refreshing. Some integrity there. Amazing.

Lieberman gets a lot of animosity directed at him. I'm not a Lieberman hater. You are right: he's still a Dem and he does fight for many liberal causes, but we can do better. He's like the old war horse that is no longer able to stand up in battle. Time to retire the good senator. He's not doing us or himself much service. Sen. Byrd for all his years has more fight than Joe. The sad thing is, I think Joe is taking the easy way out. His principles, if he were being totally honest, are capitulations. He's swaying because he doesn't have the backbone to stand tall. Saddest of all, I don't think he realizes it.

Off to K0S.
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  -About that debate.... _dynamicdems  Jun-22-06 05:19 AM   #0 
  - I definitely agree  karynnj   Jun-22-06 05:53 AM   #1 
  - I just watched it for the third time and I'm more convinced than ever  _dynamicdems   Jun-22-06 06:11 AM   #2 
  - Absolutely, no one can deny this:  ProSense   Jun-22-06 06:35 AM   #3 
  - I am indeed PROUD and HONORED to be represented by Sen. Warner  beachmom   Jun-22-06 06:39 AM   #4 
  - Does constituents calling their senators matter?  beachmom   Jun-22-06 06:58 AM   #5 
  - I agree with everything you said,  whometense   Jun-22-06 07:06 AM   #7 
     - You got me curious, so I did a little checking and found this:  _dynamicdems   Jun-22-06 07:24 AM   #8 
     - Thanks, DD -- so he did say that in '04?  beachmom   Jun-22-06 07:45 AM   #11 
        - August 4, 2004. Here's the link:  _dynamicdems   Jun-22-06 08:25 AM   #15 
     - I think Warner was an example of the old party that Republicans  ray of light   Jun-22-06 11:34 AM   #22 
  - This really did show what the Nation has lost  TayTay   Jun-22-06 07:06 AM   #6 
  - You are absolutely correct. It was amazing.  wisteria   Jun-22-06 07:37 AM   #9 
  - It pains me to say this, but the Left is becoming part of the problem  beachmom   Jun-22-06 07:39 AM   #10 
  - I agree with you completely on this. All except Lieberman...  _dynamicdems   Jun-22-06 07:59 AM   #12 
  - But is that fellow Ned Lamont a sure win in Conn.?  beachmom   Jun-22-06 08:11 AM   #14 
  - You lost me on Hagel!  ProSense   Jun-22-06 08:36 AM   #16 
  - Lieberman's position on the  ProSense   Jun-22-06 08:43 AM   #18 
  - kos is NOT THE LEFT - He is an opportunist.  Mass   Jun-22-06 08:37 AM   #17 
  - absolutely correct.  whometense   Jun-22-06 08:44 AM   #19 
  - Perception is everything, and Kos is now a spokesman for the "left"  beachmom   Jun-22-06 11:23 AM   #20 
     - To be completely honest,  whometense   Jun-22-06 11:34 AM   #21 
        - You have a good point, Whometense  beachmom   Jun-22-06 11:44 AM   # 
           - The old rap on Kerry  whometense   Jun-22-06 12:23 PM   #25 
           - The Biden example is interesting  karynnj   Jun-22-06 12:45 PM   #27 
  - They don't watch politicians at all  sandnsea   Jun-22-06 12:20 PM   #24 
  - I was shocked - that unless I missed something - the only  karynnj   Jun-22-06 12:23 PM   #26 
  - Transcript of the Kerry/Warner dialogue is up  TayTay   Jun-22-06 08:00 AM   #13 
  - I was going to post about this, too  ginnyinWI   Jun-22-06 11:44 AM   #23 

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