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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:27 AM
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20. Contesting 2008 would have been unimaginable
The Democratic party itself would have likely publically condemned Kerry. The alternative is that the media and most establishment elements would have thoroughly decried the party's lack of judgment and respect for democracy. It would have been portrayed as an attempted coup 'in a time of war'.

Remember the media:

- did not make a big deal out of 2000 really having been stolen.
- did not blast then ignore the SBVT after Kerry et al found 100s of lies in the book - how many errors does it typically take?
- didn't criticize all the Republicans who ignored the purple heart band aids of the people they were speaking to - contrast with the Wellstone funeral where the right whipped up the view that political comments at a memorial for a politician was wrong.
- didn't care that Bush was wired. ("don't stop me now" - when no one was speaking)
- didn't care about the Republican connected company that was accused in many states of soliciting registrations - then sending in only the Republican and Independent ones.

That was the background Kerry faced.
- No genuine proof
- a hostile Ohio cout system
- a hostile federal court system
- a hostile media that distorted his personality, history and positions and those of his wife.

This really is just lack of rational thought on the part of the "he gave in" crowd.
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  -Good people of the Kerry group. A very honored Massachusetts Old Crusoe  Apr-20-06 06:47 PM   #0 
  - Ah, the more things change, the more they....  _dynamicdems   Apr-20-06 06:52 PM   #1 
  - The thanks goes back to you, _dynamicdems.  Old Crusoe   Apr-20-06 06:54 PM   #3 
  - Thanks, done. n/t  jenndar   Apr-20-06 06:53 PM   #2 
  - Sen. Kerry is a good man who's also a great public servant.  Old Crusoe   Apr-20-06 06:54 PM   #4 
     - I know.  jenndar   Apr-20-06 06:58 PM   #6 
        - I watched a townhall meeting John Kerry did in a small town in  Old Crusoe   Apr-20-06 07:03 PM   #8 
           - And that's why I think he can do it again.  jenndar   Apr-20-06 07:38 PM   #11 
  - Posted a bit of Kerry-love  rox63   Apr-20-06 06:55 PM   #5 
  - Hi, rox63. You rock, and you rock totally.  Old Crusoe   Apr-20-06 07:01 PM   #7 
  - Thanks old Cursoe  karynnj   Apr-20-06 07:18 PM   #9 
  - Hey karynnj! Nice to see you. I'll hunt down the 2008 question and  Old Crusoe   Apr-20-06 07:27 PM   #10 
  - There have been about six polls started in  ProSense   Apr-20-06 07:48 PM   #12 
  - LOL, I know!!!  jenndar   Apr-20-06 07:49 PM   #13 
  - It is kinda thrilling. I'm uneasy about the character slams people  Old Crusoe   Apr-20-06 08:27 PM   #14 
     - Good point  karynnj   Apr-20-06 08:43 PM   #15 
     - It will be interesting to see how it turns out. Sometimes I think  Old Crusoe   Apr-20-06 09:46 PM   #17 
     - You got it in one  WildEyedLiberal   Apr-20-06 09:35 PM   #16 
        - I'm on the damned old side of things, and I have been very surprised  Old Crusoe   Apr-20-06 09:51 PM   #18 
  - Y'all fought the good fight there  JohnKleeb   Apr-21-06 07:56 AM   #19 
     - Contesting 2008 would have been unimaginable  karynnj   Apr-21-06 08:27 AM   #20 
     - These are all good points.  wisteria   Apr-21-06 08:49 AM   #22 
     - 1876 was stolen by Rutherford B Hayes but  JohnKleeb   Apr-21-06 09:02 AM   #25 
     - I wasn't aware of the reason behind allowing him to becomePres..  wisteria   Apr-21-06 09:06 AM   #26 
        - The Great Compromise of 1876  JohnKleeb   Apr-21-06 09:11 AM   #27 
     - The Republicans throw out the Chicago Nixon example  karynnj   Apr-21-06 01:44 PM   #32 
     - Yeah I mean it was bad enough in 2000  JohnKleeb   Apr-21-06 08:56 AM   #23 
        - So true -- look no further than that Berlusconi idiot  beachmom   Apr-21-06 09:17 AM   #28 
           - Berlusconi's coalition lost by a few percentage points I saw  JohnKleeb   Apr-21-06 09:28 AM   #29 
           - and the other thing was the overall popular vote  ginnyinWI   Apr-21-06 10:05 AM   #30 
     - I think you make a great point there.  whometense   Apr-21-06 08:48 AM   #21 
     - I dunno  JohnKleeb   Apr-21-06 09:00 AM   #24 
     - "a healthy democracy has a range of voices in it."  Old Crusoe   Apr-21-06 12:35 PM   #31 

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