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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:08 PM
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Something we need to talk about concerning Iraq
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I just read this on Iraq the Model:

Wednesday, April 19, 2006

Kill us, but you won't enslave us.

Last week we stopped writing for a while and we apologized to our readers saying that we lost a close friend but we didn't want to give more details as we were overwhelmed by an exceptional situation and a huge shock. We also were afraid from writing more about this subject for security concerns but now I think I must share this with you as it's part of the pain and suffering my nation is going through.

Last week our little and peaceful family was struck by the tragic loss of one of its members in a savage criminal act of assassination. The member we lost was my sister's husband who lived with their two little children in our house.

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The terrorists and criminals are targeting all elements of life and they target anyone who wants to do something good for this countryThey think by assassinating one of us they could deter us from going forward but will never succeed, they can delay us for years but we will never go back and abandon our dream.
We have vowed to follow the steps of our true martyrs and we will raise the new generation to continue the march, these children of today are the hope and the future.

What a difference between those who work to preserve life and those who work to end itit's terrorism and crime and there are no other words to describe these acts.
They will keep trying to steal life from us and we will keep fighting back and we will keep exposing them but not with bullets and swords, we never carried arms and we will never do because we are not afraid and because we are not weak unlike those cowards who know no language but that of treason.
April will always be there to remind us of the sacrifice and remind us of the dream we fight for.

My God keep safe the Iraqis and their friends who stand with them in their noble cause, peace and prosperity may seem far away but we will get there and I hope our sacrifices be a bridge to a better world.



http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2006/04/kill-us-but-yo...

If I were a war supporter, I would use this man's horrible grief and use it as a reason for "why we must stay in Iraq". Of course, the fact that this tragedy happened with our troops still there will be ignored. But there is a very good chance that this war is going to end (for us) VERY badly, not unlike 1975 Saigon. And people like Mohammed, Omar, Zeyad, and so many other Iraqi bloggers could very likely end up killed. These are good people, who are model Iraqi citizens with dreams of democracy and peace in Iraq. The religious ones actually practice their religion of Islam as the Prophet intended: as a religion of peace. And yet, in a tragedy like Iraq, they will be the ones killed, while the scumbags live on. The only hope is the summit Sen. Kerry speaks of needing to happen between all of the parties in Iraq as well as the region. Only when the important issues are resolved between Shiites, Sunnis, and Kurds is there any chance that a true Iraqi national army and Iraqi police force can be formed.

Unfortunately, John Kerry is not the POTUS. Idiot is. And he is incapable of doing diplomacy -- it's "too much work". And after having read liberal hawk George Packer's recent article about Iraq in The New Yorker,

A long article found here: http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060410fa...

I have come to the conclusion that Iraq is going to be an incredibly devastating loss for the U.S., the Iraqi people, and the world, and will rank in our history as one of our country's Greatest Shames -- two, really. The first was to invade a country for no reason other than the fact "That We Could" and the second is to abandon it, after having completely broken it. If you read Packer's article it concurs with Biden that we're already withdrawing from Iraq. Maybe not in numbers, but in large swaths of Iraq, American troops stay in FOBs (Forward Operating Bases) and never venture out. They're doing nothing in terms of counterinsurgency warfare or protecting Iraqis from horrible crimes like the one above, as it will lead to more casualties. I actually agree with the hawks as to how to MAYBE "win" the war:

1. Double the number of troops (250,000)
2. Practice classic counterinsurgency warfare, which is 80% political and 20% military
3. All troops need to be well studied in Iraqi history and culture, trained in typical Iraqi situations, the languages needed. In short, they need to be Iraqi culture experts.
4. The troops need to have very long deployments like 5 years. If they keep rotating out, then you lose all of the trust that was gained by the first group of officers.
5. A huge amount of American troops are needed to train Iraqi troops/police, and also will need extremely long deployments to get the job done.
6. The summit mentioned above will HAVE to happen so that at the top of the hierarchy there is agreement among Shiites, Sunnis, and Kurds as to their goals for a new Iraq.

So, before you all freak out on me that I'm calling for 250,000 troops in Iraq, ask yourself these questions. Does the White House have both the will, the political capital, and the ability to pull off those conditions I set up above? Secondly, do the armed forces have the will and ability to live under the above conditions without weakening our national defense elsewhere? Thirdly, do the American people have the will to put up with a rise in casualties and treasury for a long war like this? And here is the main kicker of them all: we could do ALL 6 steps and STILL fail, because if the Iraqis don't want to live together in peace and build a country, then there isn't a darn thing we can do about it. But anything LESS than the above, means we lose.

You know, we did have to live with much worse than this in World War II. But that was because we the American people had the WILL to win that war, because we had no other choice. We also trusted our leaders. But the #1 reason why the people will not get behind winning the war in Iraq is because they were lied into the war. It was a lie, and you can't build a foundation for sacrifice based on a lie.

The anti-war rhetoric never talks about what will happen once we leave; they have a utopian view that all will be well when our soldiers are gone. That is a lie. As John Kerry said: tell the truth, so here it is: Mohammed, the Iraqi blogger, may die, and it will be our fault for abandoning him after he was promised pie in the sky dreams from the neoconservatives. And, we the American people are going to have to live with that shame for the rest of our lives. Nevertheless, I still support a full withdrawl of American troops this year. It is the least worst option. But make no mistake about it -- it's a very bad option, except all the rest.



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