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20. Great speech - thanks for posting.
I thought this part was totally on the mark.

Literally, the west must reclaim its moral leadership. To be successful in this battle of ideas, we must undermine the jihadist propaganda about the west. All allied nations have to pay greater attention to how our words and deeds are understood in the Middle East, because our good intentions are doubted by the very people the terrorists seek to turn against us. And these efforts must be bolstered with tangible investments, not just in foreign aid, but in the Arab people themselves in the form of schools, hospitals and other institutions that give people a voice and a stake in civil society.


My neighbors lived in Saudi for nearly twenty years (the husband worked for an American company there), and they often talk about about their experiences there, and about many cultural characteristics unique to the Arab/Muslim people. I think the US has totally failed (most likely on purpose) to understand these differences and this failure of understanding has caused many problems and created many fresh, new "terrorists".

On another note, I've often thought about the conflict in Northern Ireland when hearing about some of the atrocities (such as Abu Grab)that Bush and his cabal have committed during the "war on terror". We apparently learned much from what the British government did to the Catholics in the North during the 60's, 70's and 80's including occupying an entire nation at gunpoint, interning people indefinitely without trail, torture, etc.

Helping to broker peace in the North of Ireland was IMO one of the greatest accomplishments of the Clinton Administration. It's going to take a Herculean effort to do the same in the Middle East, and we damn well better elect an American president who's up to the challenge!

And finally, I hope JK had at least a little extra time to see a bit of the country. It's an unforgettable place that has a very special place in my heart. I'm glad he was able to reschedule this trip!



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  -John Kerry Delivers Keynote Lecture at Ireland’s University of Ulster kerrygoddess  Mar-05-06 12:13 PM   #0 
  - I have been waiting for this.  globalvillage   Mar-05-06 12:18 PM   #1 
  - Glad I was able to get it. N/T  kerrygoddess   Mar-05-06 12:23 PM   #3 
  - Excellent...thanks!  MH1   Mar-05-06 12:20 PM   #2 
  - This is good.  globalvillage   Mar-05-06 12:31 PM   #4 
  - What a beautiful speech - He should have been the leader of the free world  karynnj   Mar-05-06 12:35 PM   #5 
  - Excellent speech!  ProSense   Mar-05-06 12:49 PM   #6 
  - This is a proposal he made during the campaign concerning Iran  Mass   Mar-05-06 12:53 PM   #8 
     - Markey did a piece  ProSense   Mar-05-06 01:07 PM   #9 
     - I wonder how many of Lugar's questions  karynnj   Mar-05-06 01:45 PM   #10 
     - My congressman and a great congressman.  Mass   Mar-05-06 03:30 PM   #13 
        - Even there he raised some concerns  karynnj   Mar-05-06 04:13 PM   #17 
           - This was in a speech he gave  ProSense   Mar-05-06 04:25 PM   #18 
     - Hasn't Hagel recently suggested about the same  karynnj   Mar-05-06 01:47 PM   #11 
  - Just finished to read it.  Mass   Mar-05-06 12:52 PM   #7 
  - AP review of the speech  Mass   Mar-05-06 03:27 PM   #12 
  - My reaction too - and I think for the same reason  karynnj   Mar-05-06 03:44 PM   #14 
  - Actually, this is the reason why my husband reacted this way.  Mass   Mar-05-06 03:52 PM   #15 
     - That makes sense because they always do that  karynnj   Mar-05-06 04:10 PM   #16 
  - sabra posted it on LBN - Of course the anti-Kerry crowd is there  Mass   Mar-05-06 04:39 PM   #19 
     - Interesting how they bring up the Swifties, IWR, and stolen election  politicasista   Mar-05-06 05:14 PM   #21 
        - They've been bringing up IWR all day!  karynnj   Mar-05-06 06:25 PM   #22 
        - So, I was not alone. I stopped watching after a while because it  Mass   Mar-05-06 06:32 PM   #23 
        - I was never really that much of an Edwards fan  karynnj   Mar-05-06 07:48 PM   #27 
        - Whether it's  ProSense   Mar-05-06 06:37 PM   #24 
           - You also know that if the words were switched between the 2 men  karynnj   Mar-06-06 06:03 AM   #34 
        - Interestingly, somebody decided this speech means Kerry is a hawk.  Mass   Mar-05-06 06:59 PM   #25 
           - That thread has people I've never seen before  karynnj   Mar-05-06 07:30 PM   #26 
           - Psycho thread  sandnsea   Mar-05-06 08:30 PM   #28 
           - I just wish I had your sense  karynnj   Mar-05-06 08:35 PM   #29 
              - Oh they're WAY past mad at me  sandnsea   Mar-05-06 08:55 PM   #30 
           - For some reasons, AP changed his text - Apparently, the text did  Mass   Mar-05-06 09:38 PM   #32 
  - Great speech - thanks for posting.  Island Blue   Mar-05-06 04:45 PM   #20 
  - Interestingly, AP has changed his text.  Mass   Mar-05-06 09:34 PM   #31 
  - I hate the stupidity of those of the guys in LBN  Mass   Mar-06-06 05:29 AM   #33 
  - An academic speech full of "F*ck Bush"....  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-06-06 06:15 PM   #39 
  - A lot of ideas to chew on in the speech  beachmom   Mar-06-06 07:25 AM   #35 
  - Thank you for doing this - this is a wonderful post.  karynnj   Mar-06-06 07:49 AM   #36 
     - On the Iraq thread, I read your post about the Arab League  beachmom   Mar-06-06 03:12 PM   #37 
        - I agree that the Iraq situation looks very bleak  karynnj   Mar-06-06 09:22 PM   #49 
  - You can download the MP3 of the speech here  rox63   Mar-06-06 06:09 PM   #38 
     - Thanks - Listening now - Happy to see Teresa was there.  Mass   Mar-06-06 06:24 PM   #40 
     - I love his comments on The Speaker.  TayTay   Mar-06-06 07:44 PM   #44 
     - Whee, thanks!  jenndar   Mar-06-06 06:29 PM   #41 
     - I hope they will post the real speech text  Mass   Mar-06-06 06:51 PM   #42 
     - Here you go  rox63   Mar-06-06 07:40 PM   #43 
        - These are the remarks prepared for delivery (mostly what KG posted  Mass   Mar-06-06 09:37 PM   #53 
     - Thanks for posting yet.  Island Blue   Mar-06-06 08:06 PM   #45 
     - Plus, he sounds sort of wistful.  TayTay   Mar-06-06 08:23 PM   #46 
        - This is a brilliant speech.  globalvillage   Mar-06-06 09:16 PM   #47 
        - I would love to hear the audience questions too.  Island Blue   Mar-06-06 09:30 PM   #51 
        - "Can you even imagine * trying to talk like this?"  Island Blue   Mar-06-06 09:21 PM   #48 
           - Okay, you can have 'idear'  TayTay   Mar-06-06 09:28 PM   #50 
           - That would be nice too.  Island Blue   Mar-06-06 09:33 PM   #52 
           - Let's see  ProSense   Mar-06-06 09:46 PM   #54 
           - Here's what happens on happens when Bush goes overseas  ProSense   Mar-06-06 10:18 PM   #56 
     - Thanks for the link  karynnj   Mar-06-06 09:51 PM   #55 
 

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