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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:51 PM
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11. That "Bush Cult" blogger actually explains this DU stuff pretty well to me
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 04:02 PM by emulatorloo
That Glen Greenwald piece, although he is writing about how Bush supporters wildly decide that anyone who criticizes Bush, no matter their political persuasion, is a liberal.

Gonna go get snip and link,

LInk: http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/02/do-bush-foll...

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I want to leave the personal issues to the side and examine a few of the substantive issues raised (unintentionally) by Alexandras post. It used to be the case that in order to be considered a "liberal" or someone "of the Left," one had to actually ascribe to liberal views on the important policy issues of the day social spending, abortion, the death penalty, affirmative action, immigration, "judicial activism," hate speech laws, gay rights, utopian foreign policies, etc. etc. These days, to be a "liberal," such views are no longer necessary.

Now, in order to be considered a "liberal," only one thing is required a failure to pledge blind loyalty to George W. Bush. The minute one criticizes him is the minute that one becomes a "liberal," regardless of the ground on which the criticism is based. And the more one criticizes him, by definition, the more "liberal" one is. Whether one is a "liberal" -- or, for that matter, a "conservative" -- is now no longer a function of ones actual political views, but is a function purely of ones personal loyalty to George Bush.

<snip>

Seems kinda the same here -- if somebody talks loud against Bush (and the media picks it up, because as we know, some Dems are doing a lot and not getting covered), then on DU you are a 'progressive' no matter what your actual positions on issues might be

DISCLAIMER - I like Paul Hackett and all the other Democrats who are giving Bush hell.
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  -Hackett's not a liberal, so answer me this sandnsea  Feb-15-06 09:28 AM   #0 
  - Great question.  whometense   Feb-15-06 09:39 AM   #1 
  - Me too  sandnsea   Feb-15-06 10:33 AM   #6 
  - Feingold is doing a great job right now explaining where he stands  Mass   Feb-15-06 10:18 AM   #2 
  - I understand his position  sandnsea   Feb-15-06 10:29 AM   #4 
  - We need to actually talk to each other don't we?  FreedomAngel82   Feb-15-06 01:28 PM   #10 
  - Do they ever?  FreedomAngel82   Feb-15-06 01:28 PM   #9 
  - we have these types of people on both sides now  ginnyinWI   Feb-15-06 10:23 AM   #3 
  - Anti-Establishment Politics  sandnsea   Feb-15-06 10:31 AM   #5 
     - the trick is  ginnyinWI   Feb-15-06 11:13 AM   #7 
  - Good post  FreedomAngel82   Feb-15-06 01:27 PM   #8 
  - That "Bush Cult" blogger actually explains this DU stuff pretty well to me  emulatorloo   Feb-15-06 03:51 PM   #11 
  - That does make sense  karynnj   Feb-15-06 04:08 PM   #12 
  - Right  FreedomAngel82   Feb-15-06 06:23 PM   #14 
  - It's true  sandnsea   Feb-15-06 08:45 PM   #18 
  - You can't fight for what you believe in if you don't win the election  rockymountaindem   Feb-15-06 04:14 PM   #13 
  - That doesn't have anything to do with the post  FreedomAngel82   Feb-15-06 06:24 PM   #15 
  - Aye, there's the rub.  TayTay   Feb-15-06 08:25 PM   #16 
  - Just like Salazar  sandnsea   Feb-15-06 08:37 PM   #17 
     - It is frustrating  FreedomAngel82   Feb-15-06 10:58 PM   #19 
  - the Salazar thing makes no sense  JI7   Feb-15-06 11:09 PM   #20 
  - Speaking from my memory, I wouldn't call Salazar's campaign lib. or con.  rockymountaindem   Feb-15-06 11:26 PM   #21 
     - that's kind of similar to Mary Landrieu in 2002  JI7   Feb-15-06 11:36 PM   #22 
     - Same with Schweitzer  sandnsea   Feb-15-06 11:39 PM   #23 
  - Other problems concerning outsiders - they dont seem to understand they  Mass   Feb-16-06 06:59 AM   #24 
  - there are others like Wellstone, Feingold  JI7   Feb-16-06 11:32 PM   #27 
  - Two possibilities, probably more  sandnsea   Feb-17-06 01:21 AM   #28 
  - I had never seen that pattern - but it is striking  karynnj   Feb-17-06 07:44 AM   #30 
  - There are unknown unknowns  IronLionZion   Feb-16-06 08:00 AM   #25 
     - Hey, welcome to the JK group.  TayTay   Feb-16-06 08:26 AM   #26 
        - MMMMMM.Scones.  saracat   Feb-17-06 01:44 AM   #29 
 

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