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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:27 PM
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22. He may be far far worse that Lieberman
Lieberman really is a Democrat on most of the social/domestic issues. All we know about this guy is that he is against Bush - he was a member of the Reagan administration. Those to editorials frame Kerry's protesting in the same terms the RW give. I don't know what questions the Harris poll asked, but I knew plenty of unhappy Vietnam Vets - aside from the fact that their "happiness" was not Kerry's issue.

The fact of the matter is that even people like Colin Powell and Tommy Franks conceded that there were plenty of atrocities in Vietnam. The other thing is that Kerry was explicitly repeating what the Winter Soldiers said and he had been asked to speak of that event. He intentionly in the context of the speech leads to the idea that these actions (which they were told to do in some cases) hurt the soldiers and now the government was ignoring the problems they were having. This clearly doesn't describe evil unremourseful monsters - but people haunted by what they did. Even if people had a problem with the words, he was 27 years old. (but I guess he wasn't young and irresponsible)

Beyond that - the comment of "shaky" to describe war medals - then thecomment about LBJ's (genuinely shaky) medal. This is tacky beyond words when he then is concerned about everyone else's medals - so I guess in the entire history of the US military only Kerry didn't deserve his medals.

The karma comment was pretty nasty too - The SBVT lied about eveything in their ads, Kerry certainly didn't deserve that. If they wanted to challange whether it is right to respectfully petition the government to end a war, that is ok.

Also, it was the leaders of the country and the military who tarnished the name of a generation of soldiers - Kerry didn't create "free fire zones", send troops into My Lai or carpet bomb part of the country we were defending. The millions of Vietnamese who died were killed by people like Webb who okayed it.

I think this guy hates Kerry more than any of the Republicans (probably including Ted Stevens)

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  -Barfbag news (it's good!) whometense  Feb-08-06 11:15 AM   #0 
  - All proof that there is a God and I am not on his/her shit list.  TayTay   Feb-08-06 11:24 AM   #1 
  - Doing a little happy dance  whometense   Feb-08-06 11:29 AM   #2 
  - And you are not alone.  ProSense   Feb-08-06 12:26 PM   #5 
  - Oh this should be fun!  Island Blue   Feb-08-06 11:39 AM   #3 
  - That would be nice!  FreedomAngel82   Feb-08-06 12:16 PM   #4 
  - So I've heard that Webb spoke hatefully of JK's antiwar protesting  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-16-06 11:33 PM   #6 
  - This guy served under Reagan and will be a  TayTay   Feb-17-06 06:50 AM   #7 
     - He did mention Kerry in his NYT editorial  karynnj   Feb-17-06 08:21 AM   #11 
     - What an ASSHOLE  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-17-06 01:02 PM   #20 
  - What do we know about Harris Miller, anything? n/t  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 06:54 AM   #8 
  - I finally fixed my local newspaper problem  beachmom   Feb-17-06 07:32 AM   #9 
  - What concerns me is that he really is a Republican  karynnj   Feb-17-06 08:35 AM   #12 
  - Small article on Harris Miller  beachmom   Feb-17-06 07:43 AM   #10 
  - Fuck this Swift Boat enabler.  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 12:20 PM   #13 
  - quel prick.  whometense   Feb-17-06 12:23 PM   #14 
  - He is that.  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 12:30 PM   #15 
     - Guess we'd better get on that  whometense   Feb-17-06 12:35 PM   #16 
     - Need to do more research on the barfbag donation.  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 01:12 PM   #21 
     - I don't think it's him.  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 01:33 PM   #25 
     - Just heard back from the Carpetbagger on this:  whometense   Feb-19-06 05:24 PM   #41 
        - Thanks so much for letting him know, though!  beachmom   Feb-19-06 05:29 PM   #42 
        - Has there been antrhing posted over there  whometense   Feb-19-06 05:35 PM   #43 
           - I'm researching Webb on Kos now, and found some interesting info  beachmom   Feb-20-06 12:34 PM   #46 
              - Bob Kerrey linked with Webb:  beachmom   Feb-20-06 12:41 PM   #47 
                 - According to this comment on a different thread, Webb  beachmom   Feb-20-06 01:09 PM   #48 
                    - Sorry guys, there is just so much good info; this one about Barfbag  beachmom   Feb-20-06 01:19 PM   #49 
                       - And, finally, one positive thing I did find about Webb  beachmom   Feb-20-06 01:23 PM   #50 
                          - To sum it all up  beachmom   Feb-20-06 01:28 PM   #51 
                             - Miller is a an IT dude  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-20-06 01:35 PM   #52 
                                - I understand where you're coming from, but . . .  beachmom   Feb-20-06 02:09 PM   #53 
                                   - I definitely don't envy your position  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-20-06 03:53 PM   #54 
                                      - The polls: that 's EXACTLY what I was thinking!  beachmom   Feb-20-06 04:39 PM   #55 
                                         - If he apologized to Kerry it would go a long way  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-20-06 04:52 PM   #56 
        - It's not about me, whome.  globalvillage   Feb-19-06 05:45 PM   #44 
     - Being in the Reagan administrtion is bad enough  karynnj   Feb-17-06 12:45 PM   #18 
        - He'll be the next Lieberman  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-17-06 01:01 PM   #19 
           - He may be far far worse that Lieberman  karynnj   Feb-17-06 01:27 PM   #22 
              - Miller's numbers against Allen  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 01:32 PM   #23 
              - Then we need to start a BIG grassroots campaign in favor of Miller  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-17-06 01:34 PM   #26 
              - We need these  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 01:40 PM   #27 
              - I agree -  karynnj   Feb-17-06 01:52 PM   #28 
              - You know, Harris has something that's missing in the Senate.  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 01:53 PM   #29 
              - Their numbers are near the same  karynnj   Feb-17-06 01:56 PM   #30 
              - You're right  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-17-06 01:33 PM   #24 
  - Okay, that confirms what I heard  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-17-06 12:35 PM   #17 
  - Okay, I'm back and read everything. OMG?? What do I do?  beachmom   Feb-17-06 02:35 PM   #31 
  - If it's Webb or Allen  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 02:42 PM   #32 
  - If it's Webb vs Allen, I would vote third party  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-17-06 02:44 PM   #33 
     - You have to listen to your boss, WEL  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 02:58 PM   #34 
        - I don't know  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-17-06 03:04 PM   #35 
           - All the more reason to promote Harris Miller.  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 03:12 PM   #36 
           - Well FWIW  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-17-06 03:16 PM   #37 
              - I like the way you think. n/t  globalvillage   Feb-17-06 04:11 PM   #39 
           - In that sense, I think JK would be my compass on this one  beachmom   Feb-17-06 03:17 PM   #38 
  - More on Harris Miller here  globalvillage   Feb-18-06 09:00 AM   #40 
  - Allen is at it again  ProSense   Feb-20-06 09:09 AM   #45 

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