TayTay
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Thu Jan-12-06 07:50 AM
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I started this thread in an attempt to figure how to become more civil online and not perpetuate what we all claim to hate in those endless 'bashing threads.'
I don't want to bash anyone. I don't want to make cutting remarks about anyone who doesn't have an R attached to their name. (There are a few Dems I really don't like, but I will gently annoy them, not bash.)
There has to be a better way. There also has to be a way to acknowledge that politics is about feelings and about getting involved and about giving a bit of your heart to a cause and yet not fall off the deep end and start attacking people and not taking people at their word.
This is not that day, obviously.
I deeply regret the level of dialogue here. We need to back up and ask if this is who we are and who we want to be. It's one thing to defend a position people, it's another to refuse to see when harm is being done. Is this what we really want here?
Can we call a truce? Then try an actual dialogue that isn't so confrontational, personal and harsh?
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| -People, we need to talk again. |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 11:40 AM |
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Thanks for the heads up. |
MH1 |
Jan-11-06 11:49 AM |
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It is possible to support someone. |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 11:59 AM |
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I admit to being a culprit in going after Kerry detractors, but |
ProSense |
Jan-11-06 12:40 PM |
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I haven't weighed in because |
whometense |
Jan-11-06 12:48 PM |
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Who are you responding to and to serve what end? |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 12:56 PM |
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I agree, and I read the posts |
ProSense |
Jan-11-06 01:16 PM |
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Sometimes you take something to PM |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 01:31 PM |
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PMs do serve a purpose |
ProSense |
Jan-11-06 02:01 PM |
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I can see what you mean and from the thread |
karynnj |
Jan-11-06 12:52 PM |
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It's not about penance |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 01:04 PM |
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Sure we can take harsh questions |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 04:03 PM |
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Our defense of Kerry is not a consorted effort. We do not come in |
wisteria |
Jan-11-06 01:12 PM |
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Not thick at all. |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 01:28 PM |
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Agree--it is MF who stirred things up in both cases |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 04:06 PM |
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consorted efforts |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 05:43 PM |
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Since this is obviously intended at least partially at me |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-11-06 01:22 PM |
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WEL that is the point |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 01:40 PM |
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And that's why I generally avoid GD like the plague |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-11-06 01:51 PM |
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isn't that the fucking truth |
JI7 |
Jan-11-06 09:58 PM |
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My hubby, daughter and I donated almost a thousand to the Kerry campaign. |
madfloridian |
Jan-11-06 10:32 PM |
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you need to stop coming to this forum |
JI7 |
Jan-11-06 10:42 PM |
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It's not about whether you supported Kerry |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 10:46 PM |
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As Ron pointed out below -- |
kerrygoddess |
Jan-11-06 11:33 PM |
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Is this the John Kerry Forum |
fedupinBushcountry |
Jan-11-06 01:43 PM |
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The problem is that we were treading very close to |
karynnj |
Jan-11-06 01:55 PM |
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But I think we are well within our rights to discuss and refute smears |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-11-06 01:59 PM |
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We are within our rights to do that. |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 02:04 PM |
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Well |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-11-06 02:10 PM |
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Bursting in was definately the problem |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 02:24 PM |
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The problem with that 2nd paragraph |
fedupinBushcountry |
Jan-11-06 02:25 PM |
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Second paragraph definately a problem |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 02:37 PM |
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Not ok in Kerry forum but ok in GD? |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 02:31 PM |
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Exactly! |
ProSense |
Jan-11-06 02:11 PM |
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Exactly |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-11-06 02:16 PM |
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Checked MF Comments--We Should Not Be Defensive on This |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 03:24 PM |
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Respose posted to MF |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 03:45 PM |
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Um... |
kerrygoddess |
Jan-11-06 05:08 PM |
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You missed a lot |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 05:39 PM |
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I'm glad I missed this |
kerrygoddess |
Jan-11-06 06:56 PM |
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I tend to agree with you. There are to be better ways to deal with these |
Mass |
Jan-11-06 03:28 PM |
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I post on those threads for one reason only -to balance out the |
wisteria |
Jan-11-06 04:17 PM |
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What happen?? |
sandnsea |
Jan-11-06 04:04 PM |
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A brief recap |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 04:14 PM |
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I see now |
sandnsea |
Jan-11-06 05:42 PM |
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It will never totally end |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 05:49 PM |
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Uhm, well, |
sandnsea |
Jan-11-06 06:44 PM |
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The Carville/Begala book |
karynnj |
Jan-11-06 09:09 PM |
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True, true, true |
TayTay |
Jan-11-06 09:26 PM |
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Carville/Begala |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 09:44 PM |
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I agree the reply was overly-sensitive, but I have tried to point out that |
blm |
Jan-11-06 06:09 PM |
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Thank you. |
MH1 |
Jan-11-06 06:20 PM |
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heh....for a couple years here at DU, no one battled more than me and Andy |
blm |
Jan-11-06 06:28 PM |
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Andy? |
MH1 |
Jan-11-06 10:05 PM |
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Yep - Andy was originally, Godbushandcheney |
blm |
Jan-12-06 09:57 AM |
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That is both sweet and bitter. |
TayTay |
Jan-12-06 10:00 AM |
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But |
fedupinBushcountry |
Jan-11-06 06:30 PM |
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But, the initial motivation for coming here was her suspicion that there |
blm |
Jan-11-06 06:36 PM |
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Went to far |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 07:17 PM |
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Overly emotional almost always pushes too far. |
blm |
Jan-11-06 07:22 PM |
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I think the attempts were made |
Dr Ron |
Jan-11-06 07:40 PM |
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I agree that the poster is overly sensitive. |
ProSense |
Jan-11-06 06:41 PM |
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See my post above - |
blm |
Jan-11-06 06:51 PM |
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Who's Skinner? |
sandrakae |
Jan-11-06 04:29 PM |
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The administrator of DU n/t |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-11-06 04:30 PM |
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Jan-11-06 09:56 PM |
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No matter how angry you are with this poster |
karynnj |
Jan-11-06 11:49 PM |
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J17, I would miss you if you got banned. |
BlueIris |
Jan-12-06 01:40 AM |
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After reading all the replies to this thread |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-12-06 12:02 AM |
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So though we supported Kerry and donated. |
madfloridian |
Jan-12-06 01:52 AM |
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Jan-12-06 02:02 AM |
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Did you come in here to express your support for Kerry? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-12-06 02:07 AM |
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MadFlo *HAS* |
MH1 |
Jan-12-06 08:07 AM |
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MH1 has it exactly right, imo. |
blm |
Jan-12-06 10:04 AM |
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What would John do? |
kerrygoddess |
Jan-12-06 10:25 AM |
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I agree MH1 |
saracat |
Jan-12-06 01:08 PM |
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Not really the main issue |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 02:03 PM |
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I just think we all have better things to do than engaging in this. |
saracat |
Jan-12-06 02:16 PM |
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I'm sorry |
fedupinBushcountry |
Jan-12-06 06:19 AM |
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Sigh! Democrats. |
TayTay |
Jan-12-06 07:50 AM |
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That's exactly what I think Kerry would advise us to do if he were here. |
blm |
Jan-12-06 10:06 AM |
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Still miss the point |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 08:05 AM |
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Other alternatives |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 08:25 AM |
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I didn't know Skinner considered us an issue. Nothing against Skinner, |
BlueIris |
Jan-12-06 01:35 AM |
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Maybe Skinner should be involved in this discussion |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 08:18 AM |
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I'm curious |
paulk |
Jan-12-06 01:32 PM |
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Good question |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 01:55 PM |
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Skinner has dome into this group and posted requests |
TayTay |
Jan-12-06 02:17 PM |
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I don't think, in this instance, it's the Kerry forum that's fanning the |
paulk |
Jan-12-06 02:55 PM |
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Different situation |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 03:01 PM |
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I'm not sorry it owrked out this way though. |
TayTay |
Jan-12-06 03:04 PM |
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I don't like ganging up on people either |
politicasista |
Jan-12-06 03:08 PM |
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I do too! |
TayTay |
Jan-12-06 03:11 PM |
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Are people ganging up on |
ProSense |
Jan-12-06 03:50 PM |
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Ganging Up and the rules |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 04:21 PM |
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You are right |
fedupinBushcountry |
Jan-12-06 05:01 PM |
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I kind of resent the implication here |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jan-12-06 06:20 PM |
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Should we have alerted a moderator from the beginning? |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 07:02 PM |
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That's proper for visiting other candidate forums |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 03:50 PM |
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As long as you are happy with how it turned out |
Dr Ron |
Jan-12-06 03:48 PM |
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Yeah, we aired our differences and completely hashed out |
TayTay |
Jan-12-06 08:10 PM |
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