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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:40 PM
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3. I admit to being a culprit in going after Kerry detractors, but
I never resort to vitriol in the general forums. I made a mistake of posting links to someone's previous comments against the rules. Now I know.

You know if we just ignored all the crap posted in the other forums about Kerry, this place to an unsuspecting visitor would look like the SBVT/wingnut residence. What's the point? I don't want GD to become off limits to me, and it would if the environment, including the positive threads, became polluted with JK lies. They are very adamant out there. I try to avoid the blatantly obvious threads designed purely for Kerry bashing. I will continue to defend him in the positive threads that are infiltrated by attackers.

In the most recent thread I posted to I have concerns: How does someone enter the JK forum and perceive that he/she is being personally attacked in a post that wasn't designed as an attack? The post was a response to an attack and was designed to facilitate a discussion. So,why would that person then bring up the JK forum in GD-P by insinuating that Kerry supporters are in the practice here of attacking others? That's false and the JK forum is not a topic for general discussion.

Now, I see the point about vitriol, and in some instances it's best to just cut the discussion. I'm definitely guilty of not adhering to the latter. It's a frustrating thing.

I realize this is a defensive statement, but I welcome your thought (critical are otherwise). Thanks for the alert TayTay.
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  -People, we need to talk again. TayTay  Jan-11-06 11:40 AM   #0 
  - Thanks for the heads up.  MH1   Jan-11-06 11:49 AM   #1 
  - It is possible to support someone.  TayTay   Jan-11-06 11:59 AM   #2 
  - I admit to being a culprit in going after Kerry detractors, but  ProSense   Jan-11-06 12:40 PM   #3 
  - I haven't weighed in because  whometense   Jan-11-06 12:48 PM   #4 
  - Who are you responding to and to serve what end?  TayTay   Jan-11-06 12:56 PM   #6 
     - I agree, and I read the posts  ProSense   Jan-11-06 01:16 PM   #9 
        - Sometimes you take something to PM  TayTay   Jan-11-06 01:31 PM   #12 
           - PMs do serve a purpose  ProSense   Jan-11-06 02:01 PM   #18 
  - I can see what you mean and from the thread  karynnj   Jan-11-06 12:52 PM   #5 
  - It's not about penance  TayTay   Jan-11-06 01:04 PM   #7 
     - Sure we can take harsh questions  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 04:03 PM   #30 
  - Our defense of Kerry is not a consorted effort. We do not come in  wisteria   Jan-11-06 01:12 PM   #8 
  - Not thick at all.  TayTay   Jan-11-06 01:28 PM   #11 
  - Agree--it is MF who stirred things up in both cases  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 04:06 PM   #32 
  - consorted efforts  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 05:43 PM   #40 
  - Since this is obviously intended at least partially at me  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-11-06 01:22 PM   #10 
  - WEL that is the point  TayTay   Jan-11-06 01:40 PM   #13 
     - And that's why I generally avoid GD like the plague  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-11-06 01:51 PM   #15 
        - isn't that the fucking truth  JI7   Jan-11-06 09:58 PM   #58 
        - My hubby, daughter and I donated almost a thousand to the Kerry campaign.  madfloridian   Jan-11-06 10:32 PM   #60 
           - you need to stop coming to this forum  JI7   Jan-11-06 10:42 PM   #61 
           - It's not about whether you supported Kerry  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 10:46 PM   #62 
           - As Ron pointed out below --  kerrygoddess   Jan-11-06 11:33 PM   #63 
  - Is this the John Kerry Forum  fedupinBushcountry   Jan-11-06 01:43 PM   #14 
  - The problem is that we were treading very close to  karynnj   Jan-11-06 01:55 PM   #16 
  - But I think we are well within our rights to discuss and refute smears  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-11-06 01:59 PM   #17 
  - We are within our rights to do that.  TayTay   Jan-11-06 02:04 PM   #19 
  - Well  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-11-06 02:10 PM   #20 
  - Bursting in was definately the problem  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 02:24 PM   #23 
  - The problem with that 2nd paragraph  fedupinBushcountry   Jan-11-06 02:25 PM   #24 
  - Second paragraph definately a problem  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 02:37 PM   #26 
  - Not ok in Kerry forum but ok in GD?  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 02:31 PM   #25 
  - Exactly!  ProSense   Jan-11-06 02:11 PM   #21 
     - Exactly  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-11-06 02:16 PM   #22 
  - Checked MF Comments--We Should Not Be Defensive on This  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 03:24 PM   #27 
  - Respose posted to MF  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 03:45 PM   #29 
     - Um...  kerrygoddess   Jan-11-06 05:08 PM   #37 
        - You missed a lot  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 05:39 PM   #38 
           - I'm glad I missed this  kerrygoddess   Jan-11-06 06:56 PM   #50 
  - I tend to agree with you. There are to be better ways to deal with these  Mass   Jan-11-06 03:28 PM   #28 
  - I post on those threads for one reason only -to balance out the  wisteria   Jan-11-06 04:17 PM   #34 
  - What happen??  sandnsea   Jan-11-06 04:04 PM   #31 
  - A brief recap  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 04:14 PM   #33 
     - I see now  sandnsea   Jan-11-06 05:42 PM   #39 
     - It will never totally end  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 05:49 PM   #41 
     - Uhm, well,  sandnsea   Jan-11-06 06:44 PM   #48 
     - The Carville/Begala book  karynnj   Jan-11-06 09:09 PM   #54 
        - True, true, true  TayTay   Jan-11-06 09:26 PM   #55 
        - Carville/Begala  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 09:44 PM   #56 
     - I agree the reply was overly-sensitive, but I have tried to point out that  blm   Jan-11-06 06:09 PM   #42 
        - Thank you.  MH1   Jan-11-06 06:20 PM   #43 
        - heh....for a couple years here at DU, no one battled more than me and Andy  blm   Jan-11-06 06:28 PM   #44 
           - Andy?  MH1   Jan-11-06 10:05 PM   #59 
              - Yep - Andy was originally, Godbushandcheney  blm   Jan-12-06 09:57 AM   #77 
                 - That is both sweet and bitter.  TayTay   Jan-12-06 10:00 AM   #78 
        - But  fedupinBushcountry   Jan-11-06 06:30 PM   #45 
        - But, the initial motivation for coming here was her suspicion that there  blm   Jan-11-06 06:36 PM   #46 
           - Went to far  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 07:17 PM   #51 
              - Overly emotional almost always pushes too far.  blm   Jan-11-06 07:22 PM   #52 
                 - I think the attempts were made  Dr Ron   Jan-11-06 07:40 PM   #53 
        - I agree that the poster is overly sensitive.  ProSense   Jan-11-06 06:41 PM   #47 
           - See my post above -  blm   Jan-11-06 06:51 PM   #49 
  - Who's Skinner?  sandrakae   Jan-11-06 04:29 PM   #35 
  - The administrator of DU n/t  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-11-06 04:30 PM   #36 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-11-06 09:56 PM   #57 
  - No matter how angry you are with this poster  karynnj   Jan-11-06 11:49 PM   #64 
     - J17, I would miss you if you got banned.  BlueIris   Jan-12-06 01:40 AM   #67 
  - After reading all the replies to this thread  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-12-06 12:02 AM   #65 
  - So though we supported Kerry and donated.  madfloridian   Jan-12-06 01:52 AM   #68 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-06 02:02 AM   #69 
  - Did you come in here to express your support for Kerry?  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-12-06 02:07 AM   #70 
  - MadFlo *HAS*  MH1   Jan-12-06 08:07 AM   #74 
     - MH1 has it exactly right, imo.  blm   Jan-12-06 10:04 AM   #79 
     - What would John do?  kerrygoddess   Jan-12-06 10:25 AM   #81 
     - I agree MH1  saracat   Jan-12-06 01:08 PM   #82 
        - Not really the main issue  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 02:03 PM   #85 
           - I just think we all have better things to do than engaging in this.  saracat   Jan-12-06 02:16 PM   #86 
  - I'm sorry  fedupinBushcountry   Jan-12-06 06:19 AM   #71 
  - Sigh! Democrats.  TayTay   Jan-12-06 07:50 AM   #72 
  - That's exactly what I think Kerry would advise us to do if he were here.  blm   Jan-12-06 10:06 AM   #80 
  - Still miss the point  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 08:05 AM   #73 
  - Other alternatives  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 08:25 AM   #76 
  - I didn't know Skinner considered us an issue. Nothing against Skinner,  BlueIris   Jan-12-06 01:35 AM   #66 
  - Maybe Skinner should be involved in this discussion  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 08:18 AM   #75 
  - I'm curious  paulk   Jan-12-06 01:32 PM   #83 
     - Good question  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 01:55 PM   #84 
     - Skinner has dome into this group and posted requests  TayTay   Jan-12-06 02:17 PM   #87 
        - I don't think, in this instance, it's the Kerry forum that's fanning the  paulk   Jan-12-06 02:55 PM   #88 
        - Different situation  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 03:01 PM   #89 
           - I'm not sorry it owrked out this way though.  TayTay   Jan-12-06 03:04 PM   #90 
              - I don't like ganging up on people either  politicasista   Jan-12-06 03:08 PM   #91 
              - I do too!  TayTay   Jan-12-06 03:11 PM   #92 
              - Are people ganging up on  ProSense   Jan-12-06 03:50 PM   #94 
              - Ganging Up and the rules  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 04:21 PM   #96 
              - You are right  fedupinBushcountry   Jan-12-06 05:01 PM   #97 
              - I kind of resent the implication here  WildEyedLiberal   Jan-12-06 06:20 PM   #98 
                 - Should we have alerted a moderator from the beginning?  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 07:02 PM   #99 
              - That's proper for visiting other candidate forums  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 03:50 PM   #95 
              - As long as you are happy with how it turned out  Dr Ron   Jan-12-06 03:48 PM   #93 
                 - Yeah, we aired our differences and completely hashed out  TayTay   Jan-12-06 08:10 PM   #100 

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