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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:16 PM
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45. Please stay...
...I'd miss you. :hug: I've just read most of this thread and agree with much of what you say about Obama. I'm trying hard just to let the process choose our nominee and to stay detached (which is NOT easy, by the way :) ). It's the 'fresh face vs. experience' argument again, and I want experience...JK style.

I DO think he is the wrong choice now...but as VP he'd be great. If he wins, I'll just have to pray he has the wisdom, and be glad he's at least a Democrat. But we could do so much better...and that's a hurt that will never go away for me.
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  -Kerry sang the right notes... ray of light  Jan-04-08 05:31 PM   #0 
  - Well, Baer was a Lieberman adviser during the 04 campaign, so his judgement  Mass   Jan-04-08 05:34 PM   #1 
  - I hate that they need to  politicasista   Jan-04-08 05:46 PM   #2 
  - Very interesting  karynnj   Jan-04-08 07:14 PM   #5 
  - Well, IMO  fedupinBushcountry   Jan-04-08 05:53 PM   #3 
  - I have the same problem with Obama.  Island Blue   Jan-04-08 06:33 PM   #4 
  - Okay, I'll take a stab at it. Meet Professor Obama (definitely not a preacher):  beachmom   Jan-04-08 07:50 PM   #7 
     - Thanks, Beachmom.  Island Blue   Jan-06-08 03:36 PM   #58 
  - I thought it was just me  karynnj   Jan-04-08 07:22 PM   #6 
  - . . what you said. I totally agree n/t  MBS   Jan-05-08 07:00 AM   #47 
  - I agree Fed-up.  wisteria   Jan-04-08 08:13 PM   #10 
     - I still support the senator  politicasista   Jan-04-08 09:10 PM   #19 
  - the Lieberman people are still bitter about the 2006 Primary  JI7   Jan-04-08 07:55 PM   #8 
  - Well it starts, Everyone on the Obama bandwagon.  wisteria   Jan-04-08 08:08 PM   #9 
  - Who is the right choice who is actually running? Because if the  beachmom   Jan-04-08 08:20 PM   #11 
  - So be it. I am negative. And I don't see a real urgent need to win the White House  wisteria   Jan-04-08 08:22 PM   #12 
     - Obama actually has a record and how about issues like abortion rights  JI7   Jan-04-08 08:38 PM   #14 
     - A very thin record and his claim to have been against the war in Iraq  wisteria   Jan-04-08 08:54 PM   #16 
        - i'm sorry, but that's like people claiming Kerry was pro war because of IWR  JI7   Jan-04-08 08:59 PM   #17 
        - I have and it is. And Obama's opinion about the Iraq War and Senator Kerry's  wisteria   Jan-04-08 09:28 PM   #21 
           - so what Kerry says doesn't matter ?  JI7   Jan-04-08 09:31 PM   #22 
              - Not in this matter. Kerry has to be a good Democrat. He has to support the party  wisteria   Jan-04-08 09:45 PM   #29 
                 - i'm not talking about this matter, i'm talking about Kerry's IWR vote  JI7   Jan-04-08 09:47 PM   #31 
                    - No, I am saying that Obama's opinion's from the perspective of a safe haven in Ill  wisteria   Jan-04-08 09:54 PM   #34 
                       - It WAS a risk. He was running for the U.S. Senate, and he chose  beachmom   Jan-04-08 10:08 PM   #38 
                          - Oh come on, he was running against Keyes the kook. I doubt anyone decided against  wisteria   Jan-04-08 10:31 PM   #42 
                             - At that point, he was running against a number of other Democrats and the Republican was Ryan, who  Mass   Jan-04-08 10:34 PM   #43 
        - I have been very candid in my disappointment in Obama's K/F vote  beachmom   Jan-04-08 09:53 PM   #33 
        - The similarities come in the form of the type of campaign Obama is running  wisteria   Jan-04-08 09:59 PM   #35 
           - I think he means to, I do not know if he can  Inuca   Jan-05-08 08:07 AM   #48 
        - Obama never joined the DLC  karynnj   Jan-04-08 10:03 PM   #36 
           - Kerry is mature and presidential- Obama is not IMO. He does good speeches and is great at photo-ops.  wisteria   Jan-04-08 10:27 PM   #40 
           - I will not get into healthcare. My opinions on how to fix it differ from all of our candidates. n/t  wisteria   Jan-04-08 10:29 PM   #41 
     - Because he has better judgment!!! He got it right on Iraq when  beachmom   Jan-04-08 08:49 PM   #15 
     - Padded and filled with attention getting titles and names.  wisteria   Jan-04-08 09:21 PM   #20 
     - so you vote based on your gut over facts ?  JI7   Jan-04-08 09:32 PM   #23 
     - Obama facts are nothing more than surface salt. I base my opinion  wisteria   Jan-04-08 09:40 PM   #28 
        - so you think Kerry had bad judgement when he picked him to give Keynote ?  JI7   Jan-04-08 09:46 PM   #30 
           - No, Obama gave a very moving speech, but that is all it was a speech.  wisteria   Jan-04-08 09:50 PM   #32 
              - and that's an important point, wisteria!  ginnyinWI   Jan-05-08 10:22 AM   #49 
     - No, it won't.  TayTay   Jan-04-08 09:37 PM   #26 
     - Tay, I will support Senator Kerry's efforts to gain seats in the Senate.  wisteria   Jan-04-08 10:21 PM   #39 
        - Wisteria  fedupinBushcountry   Jan-04-08 10:41 PM   #44 
     - wisteria, I hope that the place will continue to be about Kerry, and I think Kerry was the subject  Mass   Jan-04-08 09:39 PM   #27 
     - When Obama is faced with a real vote that matters as much as the IWR vote did,  wisteria   Jan-04-08 10:03 PM   #37 
     - We can't have Kerry and to many of us he is the measure we are now comparing everyone to  karynnj   Jan-04-08 09:02 PM   #18 
        - You suggest someone has influenced my opinions. You sell me short.  wisteria   Jan-04-08 09:36 PM   #25 
  - Please stay...  YvonneCa   Jan-04-08 11:16 PM   #45 
  - Just finished reading it. Here is my take:  beachmom   Jan-04-08 08:32 PM   #13 
  - Very well stated!  Democrafty   Jan-04-08 09:35 PM   #24 
  - Agree Beachmom. This sounds like an  cadmium   Jan-05-08 04:59 PM   #55 
  - I agree  ladym55   Jan-08-08 10:43 PM   #63 
  - and what does it matter if we win the Congress if the President vetoes  JI7   Jan-05-08 12:52 AM   #46 
  - We will have enough votes to over ride the veto. n/t  wisteria   Jan-05-08 12:40 PM   #50 
     - That is just not true. You need 2/3rd majority to override a veto.  beachmom   Jan-05-08 01:27 PM   #51 
        - 67 votes in the Senate is nearly impossible to get.  ray of light   Jan-05-08 02:31 PM   #52 
        - They don't need to read this forum to come up with bait, they have plenty to use  wisteria   Jan-05-08 03:04 PM   #53 
           - They do read this forum. Just like they used the Kerryblog against  ray of light   Jan-05-08 03:30 PM   #54 
        - I agree with you - wishing the Democrat to lose in hopes that Kerry could win in 2008  karynnj   Jan-05-08 05:09 PM   #56 
           - I never suggested that my opinion of Obama and my lack of support for other  wisteria   Jan-05-08 06:43 PM   #57 
  - Given the results, maybe Kerry had the notes and music better than Obama  karynnj   Jan-08-08 08:57 PM   #59 
     - I was listening to the polls last week with a huge incredulity.  Mass   Jan-08-08 09:01 PM   #60 
     - So why do you think that the polls were SO off?  Inuca   Jan-09-08 08:46 AM   #66 
     - That's what I was thinking. Kerry STEAMROLLED through the primaries.  beachmom   Jan-08-08 09:44 PM   #61 
     - I try not to let anyone tell me differently, but  politicasista   Jan-08-08 10:15 PM   #62 
        - Really loved your last sentence :-)  Inuca   Jan-09-08 08:48 AM   #67 
           - Thanks  politicasista   Jan-09-08 03:11 PM   #68 
     - yes, I hope that the current crop of candidates and the media  MBS   Jan-09-08 04:47 AM   #64 
        - Quite right  Luftmensch067   Jan-09-08 07:56 AM   #65 
 

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