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Fri Jan-04-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #36 |
| 40. Kerry is mature and presidential- Obama is not IMO. He does good speeches and is great at photo-ops. |
| -Kerry sang the right notes... |
ray of light |
Jan-04-08 05:31 PM |
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Well, Baer was a Lieberman adviser during the 04 campaign, so his judgement |
Mass |
Jan-04-08 05:34 PM |
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I hate that they need to |
politicasista |
Jan-04-08 05:46 PM |
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Very interesting |
karynnj |
Jan-04-08 07:14 PM |
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Well, IMO |
fedupinBushcountry |
Jan-04-08 05:53 PM |
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I have the same problem with Obama. |
Island Blue |
Jan-04-08 06:33 PM |
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Okay, I'll take a stab at it. Meet Professor Obama (definitely not a preacher): |
beachmom |
Jan-04-08 07:50 PM |
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Thanks, Beachmom. |
Island Blue |
Jan-06-08 03:36 PM |
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I thought it was just me |
karynnj |
Jan-04-08 07:22 PM |
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. . what you said. I totally agree n/t |
MBS |
Jan-05-08 07:00 AM |
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I agree Fed-up. |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 08:13 PM |
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I still support the senator |
politicasista |
Jan-04-08 09:10 PM |
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the Lieberman people are still bitter about the 2006 Primary |
JI7 |
Jan-04-08 07:55 PM |
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Well it starts, Everyone on the Obama bandwagon. |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 08:08 PM |
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Who is the right choice who is actually running? Because if the |
beachmom |
Jan-04-08 08:20 PM |
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So be it. I am negative. And I don't see a real urgent need to win the White House |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 08:22 PM |
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Obama actually has a record and how about issues like abortion rights |
JI7 |
Jan-04-08 08:38 PM |
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A very thin record and his claim to have been against the war in Iraq |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 08:54 PM |
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i'm sorry, but that's like people claiming Kerry was pro war because of IWR |
JI7 |
Jan-04-08 08:59 PM |
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I have and it is. And Obama's opinion about the Iraq War and Senator Kerry's |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 09:28 PM |
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so what Kerry says doesn't matter ? |
JI7 |
Jan-04-08 09:31 PM |
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Not in this matter. Kerry has to be a good Democrat. He has to support the party |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 09:45 PM |
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i'm not talking about this matter, i'm talking about Kerry's IWR vote |
JI7 |
Jan-04-08 09:47 PM |
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No, I am saying that Obama's opinion's from the perspective of a safe haven in Ill |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 09:54 PM |
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It WAS a risk. He was running for the U.S. Senate, and he chose |
beachmom |
Jan-04-08 10:08 PM |
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Oh come on, he was running against Keyes the kook. I doubt anyone decided against |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 10:31 PM |
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At that point, he was running against a number of other Democrats and the Republican was Ryan, who |
Mass |
Jan-04-08 10:34 PM |
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I have been very candid in my disappointment in Obama's K/F vote |
beachmom |
Jan-04-08 09:53 PM |
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The similarities come in the form of the type of campaign Obama is running |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 09:59 PM |
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I think he means to, I do not know if he can |
Inuca |
Jan-05-08 08:07 AM |
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Obama never joined the DLC |
karynnj |
Jan-04-08 10:03 PM |
#36 |
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Kerry is mature and presidential- Obama is not IMO. He does good speeches and is great at photo-ops. |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 10:27 PM |
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I will not get into healthcare. My opinions on how to fix it differ from all of our candidates. n/t |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 10:29 PM |
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Because he has better judgment!!! He got it right on Iraq when |
beachmom |
Jan-04-08 08:49 PM |
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Padded and filled with attention getting titles and names. |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 09:21 PM |
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so you vote based on your gut over facts ? |
JI7 |
Jan-04-08 09:32 PM |
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Obama facts are nothing more than surface salt. I base my opinion |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 09:40 PM |
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so you think Kerry had bad judgement when he picked him to give Keynote ? |
JI7 |
Jan-04-08 09:46 PM |
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No, Obama gave a very moving speech, but that is all it was a speech. |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 09:50 PM |
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and that's an important point, wisteria! |
ginnyinWI |
Jan-05-08 10:22 AM |
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No, it won't. |
TayTay |
Jan-04-08 09:37 PM |
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Tay, I will support Senator Kerry's efforts to gain seats in the Senate. |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 10:21 PM |
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Wisteria |
fedupinBushcountry |
Jan-04-08 10:41 PM |
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wisteria, I hope that the place will continue to be about Kerry, and I think Kerry was the subject |
Mass |
Jan-04-08 09:39 PM |
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When Obama is faced with a real vote that matters as much as the IWR vote did, |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 10:03 PM |
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We can't have Kerry and to many of us he is the measure we are now comparing everyone to |
karynnj |
Jan-04-08 09:02 PM |
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You suggest someone has influenced my opinions. You sell me short. |
wisteria |
Jan-04-08 09:36 PM |
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Please stay... |
YvonneCa |
Jan-04-08 11:16 PM |
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Just finished reading it. Here is my take: |
beachmom |
Jan-04-08 08:32 PM |
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Very well stated! |
Democrafty |
Jan-04-08 09:35 PM |
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Agree Beachmom. This sounds like an |
cadmium |
Jan-05-08 04:59 PM |
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I agree |
ladym55 |
Jan-08-08 10:43 PM |
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and what does it matter if we win the Congress if the President vetoes |
JI7 |
Jan-05-08 12:52 AM |
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We will have enough votes to over ride the veto. n/t |
wisteria |
Jan-05-08 12:40 PM |
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That is just not true. You need 2/3rd majority to override a veto. |
beachmom |
Jan-05-08 01:27 PM |
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67 votes in the Senate is nearly impossible to get. |
ray of light |
Jan-05-08 02:31 PM |
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They don't need to read this forum to come up with bait, they have plenty to use |
wisteria |
Jan-05-08 03:04 PM |
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They do read this forum. Just like they used the Kerryblog against |
ray of light |
Jan-05-08 03:30 PM |
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I agree with you - wishing the Democrat to lose in hopes that Kerry could win in 2008 |
karynnj |
Jan-05-08 05:09 PM |
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I never suggested that my opinion of Obama and my lack of support for other |
wisteria |
Jan-05-08 06:43 PM |
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Given the results, maybe Kerry had the notes and music better than Obama |
karynnj |
Jan-08-08 08:57 PM |
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I was listening to the polls last week with a huge incredulity. |
Mass |
Jan-08-08 09:01 PM |
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So why do you think that the polls were SO off? |
Inuca |
Jan-09-08 08:46 AM |
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That's what I was thinking. Kerry STEAMROLLED through the primaries. |
beachmom |
Jan-08-08 09:44 PM |
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I try not to let anyone tell me differently, but |
politicasista |
Jan-08-08 10:15 PM |
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Really loved your last sentence :-) |
Inuca |
Jan-09-08 08:48 AM |
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Thanks |
politicasista |
Jan-09-08 03:11 PM |
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yes, I hope that the current crop of candidates and the media |
MBS |
Jan-09-08 04:47 AM |
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Quite right |
Luftmensch067 |
Jan-09-08 07:56 AM |
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