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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 12:46 PM
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On these "other ways of knowing."
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I am finding it interesting how the claims of these "other ways of knowing" keep getting repeated, and when asked to provide just a single example of any knowledge gained through one of the "other ways of knowing", instead we get nothing but obfuscating, deflecting, projecting, insulting, and backpedaling.

It's like when one corners a psychic to prove their claim, you get nothing but excuses and never any proof.

I think we are seeing that here.

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  -On these "other ways of knowing." cleanhippie  Nov-06-11 12:46 PM   #0 
  - Steve Jobs invented the iPad using nothing but intuition!  trotsky   Nov-06-11 01:08 PM   #1 
  - This is what I *still* think of when I see "iPad."  laconicsax   Nov-06-11 05:42 PM   #2 
     - You've seen this right?  progressoid   Nov-06-11 11:58 PM   #6 
        - That looks like something that requires batteries  NMMNG   Nov-07-11 12:21 AM   #7 
           - You can plug it into your USB port.  progressoid   Nov-07-11 07:14 AM   #8 
  - Once, I was given a list of accomplishments...  laconicsax   Nov-06-11 05:44 PM   #3 
  - And people are totally ignorant about the nature of intution.  Odin2005   Nov-06-11 07:57 PM   #4 
  - You have such a closed mind  NMMNG   Nov-06-11 08:28 PM   #5 
  - Well, I we can learn from impression or instinctive feeling...  Deep13   Nov-08-11 11:02 AM   #9 
  - There are as many as 19 senses depending on how you count.  laconicsax   Nov-08-11 02:31 PM   #10 
     - You mean other than Aristarchus?  dmallind   Nov-08-11 02:46 PM   #11 
     - I forgot about Aristarchus. n/t  laconicsax   Nov-08-11 04:17 PM   #14 
     - Heliocentrism was based on centuries of meticulous astronomical observation.  Deep13   Nov-08-11 03:01 PM   #12 
        - Surely those other ways of knowing could have uncovered the necessary knowledge, right?  laconicsax   Nov-08-11 04:16 PM   #13 
           - Guess not. That would suggest creationism...  Deep13   Nov-08-11 05:02 PM   #15 
  - "A popular meme among the sans-science crowd..."  onager   Nov-08-11 08:37 PM   #16 
  - Oh, I see.  Deep13   Nov-08-11 10:53 PM   #17 
     - Well, people also "ascertain information"  skepticscott   Nov-12-11 09:27 AM   #19 
        - They're wrong.  Deep13   Nov-18-11 02:30 PM   #21 
           - Doesn't sound very "Holmesian" of you.  PassingFair   Nov-18-11 03:17 PM   #23 
              - Well, sure, it's just processed at an instinctive level...  Deep13   Nov-18-11 03:23 PM   #24 
  - Jumpin Jeebus!I just read that entire conversation and my head is spinning.  amyrose2712   Nov-09-11 08:58 AM   #18 
  - Well, what they consider "ways of knowing"  skepticscott   Nov-12-11 09:31 AM   #20 
  - I read deflecting as  Ninjaneer   Nov-18-11 02:50 PM   #22 
  - There usually is poo-flinging involved  NMMNG   Nov-18-11 06:07 PM   #25 
  - I like this quote on the topic...  onager   Nov-18-11 08:35 PM   #26 

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