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57. Balantz,
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 02:47 AM by lildreamer316
I am sorry that was your exposure and reaction to "The Secret". Mine has been quite different.
I first came upon the movie for free online. I now have it in my possession, not ever having paid one cent for it.

It came to me and my family at a time when we were barely making it...food on the table was hard; arguing and begging for utilities to give up "one more week" or maybe a couple of days? My husband, bless his heart, had wrecked our only family car, and was in court (attorneys + everything else for fees) and facing mandatory 30 days incarcerated. I did not work at the time.

It was..not the worst,I am sure, but not very bright times, indeed.

The movie helped me to see things from a different perspective; to realize that *I* was more in control of myself than I was giving myself credit for; that I could *choose* how to react and how to feel about a situation.

Today, we are well on our way to being secure. We got another car last year that lasted exactly as long as it needed too. THEN, we qualified for a car with a loan, something neither of us thought we could *ever* do!! (we do not have debt, no CCs, etc....but no credit either!). The payment are right where we can afford. The insurance, too..suprising after the wreck and court stuff he had.

My husband has served his time; one day a week for almost eight months instead of the dreaded 30 days straight...allowing him to get a WONDERFUL job (that did not mind his jail time!! REALLY!!). This job, within the year, moved him up to an even better position, and we got the hint today that he may be headed for an even BETTER position within the next year or two!!

Last weekend he made...well, enough to cover our bills for a month and a half (we still do live fairly simply, however).

I tell you all this not to say that "The Secret" either completely is responsible for our better fortunes, or failed in that we did not visualize even better for ourselves, but to say that it profoundly made an impact on how we perceived the world and in turn, ourselves. We both modified our actions to exude the most positive attitudes that we were able. Perfection in this is not strived for, just to do the best you can. Thinking "positive" was,if not (provably) necessarily a help, certainly a better feeling way of dealing with our situations that being upset and stressed and worried..and focused on the problems we faced, instead of the joys in life.

The key to the "Secret" is to just, as in many things, take from it what rings true to you, and leave what does not. The push towards materialism in the movie turned many off, and I understand that. I believe it was made that way to reach the widest audience possible, to strike a common chord in the collective consciousness that is the consumerism-obsessed society in which we live. I believe the authors/producers wanted to get the message out that underlies the 'prosperity' overlay..that true prosperity is a wealth of self-confidence, and love for yourself and others around you. I truly believe that one cannot fully love another without loving one's self - and this is just another path to learning to honor and love the source/divine/amazing natural creation that is you.

When Oprah had her two shows about this, I did watch, and some very enlightening and interesting discussion happened. At one point, she says in reference to a point about "The Secret" ..."How can I serve?"

How can I serve? is an integral part of using "The Secret" in my life, and, I hope, is becoming so in many others. As I see for myself how changing my attitude is helping me to become not only more materially secure, but more secure in my relationships with my husband and my son; my friends and my extended family; with the concept of the world and the collective conciousness (my fellow human beings); I become even more motivated to serve, to help, to try to do what I can. I want to set a good example for my son.

It is a shame that these people at the house party were using the movie only as a selling motivator, and, it seems, to insiduously move attendees to invest in their little enterprise. But that is not really "The Secret"'s fault. Again, we are being challenged, one by one, to think and evaluate everything for OURSELVES. Blindly following a 'religion'' 'belief system'; or 'cult' of ANY kind is something we all need to put behind us, for the good of the country and probably the world.

The Secret is not supposed to be a belief system or a religion; just a different way of looking at life and yourself. The point is to CHOOSE, and make an autonomous choice, and if it does not seem to feel right to you, that's ok too. I do believe that part was lost in translation, or maybe it was assumed that everyone already knew that...I dunno.

ANYway, I've soapboxed enough for you to deal with, I am sure. I hope that I've been clear. I also do want to state that I don't totally agree with the way the movie comes across.."If you don't get that NEW CAR you've been visualizing, you only have yourself to blame!" is a bit much to swallow. I admit it is possible that if I had tried harder, I'd be driving an 08 now, instead of an 03, but my brain just did not accept that as a realistic possibility. I don't really know if that kind of visualization can work. I can say, however, that our general, overall goals are being reached; and an overall positive trend has ensued. Whether that is due solely to hard work or partially to "The Secret"; is not provable in any scientific way. But it sure did change my (and husband's)attitude - and I do think that made a difference.

Moderation in everything has always worked for me - bottom line. Even in beliefs and practices. I don't fully condemn something like this, but I don't fully believe it is the be-all end-all either. And I can definitely get on board with the idea that like attracts like. It's never done me a bit of good to be negative all the time. It's not fun, either!

It has made my journey to this point, happier. I think that is enough to make it worthwhile, for me.


I EDIT TO ADD: As I perused DU, this jumped out at me in relation:

"What kind of Church teaches despair and anger? One designed to keep the working class divided against itself, so that it will not unite to challenge the ruling class."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...



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  May I suggest that part of this strife scenario is the human need to BELONG? bobbolink  Jun-07-08 01:58 PM   #0 
   Brilliant  maryf   Jun-07-08 03:45 PM   #1 
   I believe you have misunderstood me. Let's converse more to see if that's true.  bobbolink   Jun-07-08 05:35 PM   #7 
      I understood you perfectly  maryf   Jun-07-08 06:32 PM   #11 
   A lot of truth here.  caseycoon   Jun-07-08 03:58 PM   #2 
   "I can't imagine myself even CONSIDERING being in a group of republicans."  bobbolink   Jun-07-08 05:20 PM   #4 
   popular and sexy  Two Americas   Jun-07-08 05:00 PM   #3 
   The "disease" is the burden of a stigma  balantz   Jun-07-08 05:30 PM   #5 
   "The only "expensive" part of these programs is that they don't have huge profits for the  bobbolink   Jun-07-08 05:38 PM   #8 
   Use it up.  balantz   Jun-07-08 05:41 PM   #9 
      Thanks much. and I have one back for you.... spoken by a friend today.  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 05:25 PM   #46 
         That's a good one  balantz   Jun-08-08 09:49 PM   #51 
   there is no expense involved  Two Americas   Jun-09-08 12:29 AM   #55 
   Virtue is its own reward...  maryf   Jun-07-08 07:18 PM   #15 
      I was invited to watch "The Secret"  balantz   Jun-07-08 07:44 PM   #20 
         Ya see  maryf   Jun-08-08 06:36 AM   #21 
         Oh yes, that "negative" "positive" thinking stuff is VERY popular with "progressives".  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 03:07 PM   #23 
         it is all there is to it  Two Americas   Jun-09-08 12:26 AM   #54 
         Balantz,  lildreamer316   Jun-09-08 02:22 AM   #57 
            We do NOT "choose" how to feel. Our emotions come to us.  bobbolink   Jun-09-08 04:54 PM   #63 
               People have lost the perception  maryf   Jun-09-08 11:02 PM   #66 
                  We're so afraid of emotions.... afraid we'll "lose control", so we develop all sorts of  bobbolink   Jun-10-08 02:22 PM   #71 
   Excellent post Bobbie, thanks n/t  balantz   Jun-07-08 05:32 PM   #6 
   Thanks, balantz. One of the things that has affected me a lot in life  bobbolink   Jun-07-08 06:03 PM   #10 
      cheers!  maryf   Jun-07-08 06:45 PM   #12 
      "Jewish tradition of having an extra place set at the table for the stranger "  bobbolink   Jun-07-08 06:54 PM   #13 
         Thank you!  maryf   Jun-07-08 07:25 PM   #17 
            "think of all the learning we could gain! "  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 03:11 PM   #24 
      Groups tend to become exclusionary.  balantz   Jun-07-08 07:13 PM   #14 
         Yay!  maryf   Jun-07-08 07:22 PM   #16 
         I agree completely. What's sad is that when someone points this out, about their beloved group,  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 04:17 PM   #35 
   May I suggest an alternative?  cornermouse   Jun-07-08 07:26 PM   #18 
   Unfortunately  maryf   Jun-07-08 07:35 PM   #19 
      "many who would call themselves liberal democrats are complicit"  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 03:04 PM   #22 
         No one knows what to do to resolve or alleviate  cornermouse   Jun-08-08 03:37 PM   #25 
         Actually, a LOT of people know. It's just not important.  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 04:07 PM   #28 
         Yep  maryf   Jun-08-08 04:09 PM   #30 
         Absolutely. Many disastrous cuts have been made in Dem misadministrations.  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 05:22 PM   #45 
            Thats horrible!  maryf   Jun-08-08 08:18 PM   #49 
         Okay.  cornermouse   Jun-08-08 04:15 PM   #34 
            Please excuse me, but I'm really tired of this usual DU response.  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 04:18 PM   #36 
            You think I have never had to wash clothes  cornermouse   Jun-08-08 04:31 PM   #39 
               You really seem to take off on some assumptions, don't you?  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 05:04 PM   #44 
                  Trying to figure out what I ever did to you.  cornermouse   Jun-08-08 07:05 PM   #48 
                     a suggestion  Two Americas   Jun-09-08 12:43 AM   #56 
                     "homeless dogs or cats get far more attention"  bobbolink   Jun-09-08 04:34 PM   #59 
                        I will see what I can find  Two Americas   Jun-09-08 04:40 PM   #60 
                           How obtuse can you get...  bobbolink   Jun-09-08 04:42 PM   #62 
                           I guess the dry humor of that was missed.  bobbolink   Jun-10-08 03:03 PM   #72 
                              I thought it was funny  maryf   Jun-10-08 06:29 PM   #74 
                           Thanks?? ;)  maryf   Jun-09-08 10:55 PM   #64 
                              sorry  Two Americas   Jun-09-08 11:00 PM   #65 
                              That ok TA!  maryf   Jun-09-08 11:09 PM   #68 
                                 Initial results  maryf   Jun-09-08 11:15 PM   #69 
                              I'm really glad to know there are younguns seeing this reality!  bobbolink   Jun-10-08 02:16 PM   #70 
                                 Yeah  maryf   Jun-10-08 06:02 PM   #73 
                                    PS  maryf   Jun-12-08 06:51 PM   #76 
                                       Thank you! Jim Wallis says that our only hope re: poverty is the next generation.  bobbolink   Jun-13-08 01:00 PM   #77 
                                          Its my job!  maryf   Jun-13-08 11:03 PM   #78 
                     Could you please point out where I assumed you were affluent?  bobbolink   Jun-09-08 04:41 PM   #61 
            Spread the truth is part of a solution  maryf   Jun-08-08 04:32 PM   #40 
            Thank you.  cornermouse   Jun-08-08 04:41 PM   #41 
               No need for thanks  maryf   Jun-08-08 04:46 PM   #42 
            "The failure to resolve homelessness ........  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 06:01 PM   #47 
         and never will, either  Two Americas   Jun-09-08 12:08 AM   #52 
         Because it has been on a backburner for SO long now  balantz   Jun-08-08 03:51 PM   #26 
         We really need to put it out front  maryf   Jun-08-08 04:07 PM   #29 
            As soon as there are a lot more people suffering poverty  balantz   Jun-08-08 04:10 PM   #31 
            That's what people keep saying. I doubt it.  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 04:14 PM   #33 
            It's the way of lemmings and sheeple.  balantz   Jun-08-08 04:20 PM   #37 
            damn  Two Americas   Jun-09-08 12:18 AM   #53 
            Will you please, for me, thank your co-workers who are thinking of us?  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 04:11 PM   #32 
               will do!  maryf   Jun-08-08 04:26 PM   #38 
         Case in point of complicity through ignorance, inaction???  maryf   Jun-08-08 04:02 PM   #27 
   A brilliant letter in today's Denver Post illustrates this.. we need to learn from the ants!  bobbolink   Jun-08-08 04:59 PM   #43 
   WOW!  maryf   Jun-08-08 08:20 PM   #50 
   Based on everything I've heard...  redqueen   Jun-09-08 11:26 AM   #58 
   Its so sad  maryf   Jun-09-08 11:06 PM   #67 
   kick  Two Americas   Jun-11-08 04:54 PM   #75 
 

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