| 16. Well, if you already have a keyboard and a mouse . . . |
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which many people switching from a PC or a mac will have, then it's not half bad. I think this can actually be a success, seeing as this is targeting people who are thinking about switching. Sure, you can get more for less if you get a PC, but this isn't a PC, it's a mac. My only reservation with it is the graphics card. A 32MB card is okay . . . but a 64MB card would be much better.
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| -WSJ: Apple Launches Low-End PC |
Merlin |
Jan-11-05 03:12 PM |
#0 |
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Does this one come with a keyboard? |
Richardo |
Jan-11-05 03:14 PM |
#1 |
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I can totally agree with that...a keyboard adds like 2 dollars.. |
Liberal Veteran |
Jan-11-05 03:15 PM |
#3 |
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And the box to hold it? |
benburch |
Jan-11-05 03:28 PM |
#14 |
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I have several keyboards, |
alfredo |
Jan-11-05 04:37 PM |
#32 |
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same here, a cordless mouse, a regular one, |
jdj |
Jan-11-05 10:23 PM |
#83 |
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If it's USB there shouldn't be much problem. The only non |
alfredo |
Jan-12-05 12:39 AM |
#87 |
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just get a ps2>usb convertor. |
NuttyFluffers |
Jan-14-05 04:23 AM |
#172 |
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On the other hand |
candice |
Jan-11-05 04:43 PM |
#34 |
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That wasn't a 17, it was a 15, titanium PB. |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 07:49 PM |
#182 |
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Not to the shipping cost though. |
slutticus |
Jan-11-05 08:02 PM |
#62 |
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No, a great idea! |
benburch |
Jan-11-05 03:18 PM |
#6 |
| -
Linux |
Crisco |
Jan-11-05 04:27 PM |
#30 |
| -
And I'm betting this will run Yellow Dog Linux, too. |
benburch |
Jan-11-05 08:24 PM |
#68 |
| -
Agreed. Why not just make it with no ports or openings at all? |
fob |
Jan-11-05 03:18 PM |
#7 |
| -
because Windoze already has that market. |
DemItAllAnyway |
Jan-11-05 03:23 PM |
#10 |
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Don't get me wrong, we use Apple at home, I'm just talking about |
fob |
Jan-11-05 04:22 PM |
#29 |
| -
I agree |
progressiveBadger |
Jan-11-05 06:36 PM |
#49 |
| -
Ummmm, what $700 monitor are you buying? |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-12-05 01:24 AM |
#89 |
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i know of no one who is brand spanking new to the computers market. |
NuttyFluffers |
Jan-14-05 04:38 AM |
#173 |
| -
No one likes the Apple keyboards and mice anyway* |
jmowreader |
Jan-12-05 12:41 AM |
#88 |
| -
They look like good 'switcher' machines |
htuttle |
Jan-11-05 03:15 PM |
#2 |
| -
OOOOOH!!!! Now that is a good idea! |
johncoby2 |
Jan-11-05 03:20 PM |
#8 |
| -
yes but the Mac mini is a cd-rom drive only |
eleonora |
Jan-14-05 01:53 AM |
#167 |
| -
Ummmm.. Noooooo.... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-14-05 03:13 AM |
#169 |
| -
ok |
eleonora |
Jan-14-05 03:16 AM |
#170 |
| -
Oh, I'm a jerk late at night!!! |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-14-05 12:34 PM |
#180 |
| -
well, as long as you realized it! |
eleonora |
Jan-14-05 01:53 PM |
#181 |
| -
Good for them |
ramapo |
Jan-11-05 03:16 PM |
#4 |
| -
Microsft stills make money off the Apple Platform |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 09:18 AM |
#107 |
| -
Not in this house. No M$. |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 07:54 PM |
#183 |
| -
Fabulous! |
ocean girl |
Jan-11-05 03:17 PM |
#5 |
| -
By the time you've bought a monitor, |
Downtown Hound |
Jan-11-05 03:22 PM |
#9 |
| -
If you truly love the Mac you'd never say something like that |
Ezlivin |
Jan-11-05 03:25 PM |
#11 |
| -
Heh, heh, sometimes we must tell the truth to those we love |
Downtown Hound |
Jan-11-05 03:31 PM |
#18 |
| -
Apple is a corporation. |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 08:51 AM |
#101 |
| -
I really don't think that it is being marketed at people looking |
Salviati |
Jan-11-05 03:29 PM |
#15 |
| -
exactly |
wicket |
Jan-11-05 03:35 PM |
#19 |
| -
Well, if you already have a keyboard and a mouse . . . |
da_chimperor |
Jan-11-05 03:29 PM |
#16 |
| -
My main gripe also |
priller |
Jan-11-05 03:49 PM |
#22 |
| -
No games to play anyway |
progressiveBadger |
Jan-11-05 06:42 PM |
#52 |
| -
games |
LifeDuringWartime |
Jan-11-05 07:24 PM |
#56 |
| -
And not everyone owns a mac |
progressiveBadger |
Jan-11-05 08:20 PM |
#67 |
| -
umm, buy a pc gaming machine? |
NuttyFluffers |
Jan-14-05 04:58 AM |
#174 |
| -
Yeah... because you know that the ENTIRE WORLD can't live without games... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-11-05 09:14 PM |
#72 |
| -
Am I the only person in the world that doesn't play video |
jdj |
Jan-11-05 10:28 PM |
#84 |
| -
This new mac is an attempt to gain market share |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 08:35 AM |
#98 |
| -
Depends on what market share they are going after? |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 09:06 AM |
#105 |
| -
Home users, more specifically people who are thinking of switching |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 09:41 AM |
#116 |
| -
Apple tech support has been horrible |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 10:22 AM |
#122 |
| -
So is that why Apple year-over-year education sales are up 18% |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 10:40 AM |
#124 |
| -
Up a little after the bleeding of sales going to Dell |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 10:53 AM |
#126 |
| -
Your example is much too extreme |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 11:02 AM |
#128 |
| -
They've never treated me like a moron. |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 08:08 PM |
#186 |
| -
Government is switching slowly. |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 08:00 PM |
#185 |
| -
You can get games for the mac, and some really good ones too |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 08:33 AM |
#97 |
| -
there are games. |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 07:56 PM |
#184 |
| -
And you don't own those things already? |
benburch |
Jan-11-05 03:30 PM |
#17 |
| -
This is aimed at PC users who already have monitor, mouse & keyboard |
the dogfish |
Jan-11-05 03:37 PM |
#20 |
| -
Hey, I'd just attach my flat-screen monitor to it (and reattach |
candice |
Jan-11-05 04:47 PM |
#36 |
| -
Think about who they're trying to sell these to. |
asthmaticeog |
Jan-11-05 05:07 PM |
#42 |
| -
this is for the SWITCHERS ;-> |
bpilgrim |
Jan-11-05 09:36 PM |
#80 |
| -
the apple designers sure earn their keep. |
belab13 |
Jan-11-05 03:26 PM |
#12 |
| -
This is exactly what I need to replace my kids' old machine. |
buddysmellgood |
Jan-11-05 03:26 PM |
#13 |
| -
is it upgradable?? buying a piece of crap is bad enough, but if you cant |
sam sarrha |
Jan-11-05 03:40 PM |
#21 |
| -
Of course, with OS X and the Mac you don't have |
priller |
Jan-11-05 03:50 PM |
#23 |
| -
Unfortunately, you do now... |
deacon2 |
Jan-11-05 04:17 PM |
#27 |
| -
You are confused |
htuttle |
Jan-11-05 04:44 PM |
#35 |
| -
The only secure computer is a...... |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 08:57 AM |
#102 |
| -
"nothing's foolproof because fools are so ingenius." |
NuttyFluffers |
Jan-14-05 05:17 AM |
#175 |
| -
no |
negativenihil |
Jan-12-05 09:04 AM |
#104 |
| -
what? |
negativenihil |
Jan-12-05 09:03 AM |
#103 |
| -
yup, I love my mac! |
wicket |
Jan-12-05 09:09 AM |
#106 |
| -
for now anyways |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 09:28 AM |
#109 |
| -
But you are using XP still... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-11-05 09:15 PM |
#75 |
| -
Not really |
Xithras |
Jan-12-05 12:03 PM |
#145 |
| -
There is no such thing as a Macintosh PC |
Gman |
Jan-11-05 03:56 PM |
#24 |
| -
umm... |
Brundle_Fly |
Jan-12-05 02:33 AM |
#91 |
| -
the pesonal computing market (home retail market)... |
NuttyFluffers |
Jan-14-05 05:25 AM |
#176 |
| -
umm, MACS SUCK!! :~) |
okieinpain |
Jan-11-05 04:07 PM |
#25 |
| -
Take that back, you unwashed heathen! |
da_chimperor |
Jan-11-05 04:11 PM |
#26 |
| -
oh, come on. they could have ruled the universe. but instead |
okieinpain |
Jan-11-05 04:36 PM |
#31 |
| -
if anyone's going to be doing any "dropping" around here it should be you |
Reverend Smoothfield |
Jan-11-05 04:54 PM |
#38 |
| -
rev, just think of all the good you could do with the extra bucks |
okieinpain |
Jan-11-05 04:57 PM |
#39 |
| -
i think i'd buy a gun and kill myself. |
Reverend Smoothfield |
Jan-11-05 05:05 PM |
#41 |
| -
You think you'd be done with Clippy then? No, he's in Hell too! |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Jan-11-05 06:16 PM |
#48 |
| -
They did have their ego days, I'll give you that one |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 10:04 AM |
#119 |
| -
The Mac |
Magleetis |
Jan-11-05 04:21 PM |
#28 |
| -
the Mac is seamless integration of software to hardware. Apple does both. |
DemItAllAnyway |
Jan-11-05 04:40 PM |
#33 |
| -
Yes, my PowerMacs from the 80s are still going strong |
candice |
Jan-11-05 04:49 PM |
#37 |
| -
Now install OS X on them |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 09:40 AM |
#115 |
| -
well of course not |
LifeDuringWartime |
Jan-12-05 07:07 PM |
#158 |
| -
Would you compare (pardon pun) apples to apples? |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 08:19 PM |
#187 |
| -
im using a powermac g3 |
LifeDuringWartime |
Jan-11-05 04:59 PM |
#40 |
| -
Not true |
progressiveBadger |
Jan-11-05 06:44 PM |
#53 |
| -
Well, try to get Susie Homemaker to run Linux... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-11-05 09:19 PM |
#76 |
| -
Indeed. |
HuckleB |
Jan-11-05 08:06 PM |
#63 |
| -
It's a closed platform |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 09:38 AM |
#114 |
| -
Of course, but it's still infinitely better than XP... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-12-05 07:40 PM |
#161 |
| -
sure, all new software has issues. |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 08:23 PM |
#188 |
| -
Of course, Beta was superior to VHS . . . |
dolstein |
Jan-11-05 05:22 PM |
#43 |
| -
of course, Betamax never had 10's of millions of users, |
Fiendish Thingy |
Jan-11-05 05:32 PM |
#44 |
| -
pros and cons |
parasim |
Jan-11-05 05:33 PM |
#45 |
| -
cheaper? |
progressiveBadger |
Jan-11-05 06:45 PM |
#54 |
| -
cheaper, indeed. For me, anyway. here's how... |
parasim |
Jan-11-05 07:25 PM |
#57 |
| -
That's true |
progressiveBadger |
Jan-11-05 08:18 PM |
#66 |
| -
iMac? Budget? It's $1200!!! |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-11-05 09:23 PM |
#77 |
| -
Yep, budget |
progressiveBadger |
Jan-12-05 11:05 AM |
#131 |
| -
Well, my G4 Powerbook is great! |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-12-05 12:01 PM |
#144 |
| -
There is a large difference |
progressiveBadger |
Jan-12-05 12:23 PM |
#150 |
| -
Well, this is obviously not aimed at the "RAW CPU POWA!!!" folks... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-12-05 02:00 PM |
#151 |
| -
you almost made me pee my pants!! bwa ha ha! |
NuttyFluffers |
Jan-14-05 05:39 AM |
#177 |
| -
Do you know the difference between the chipset architecture? |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 08:29 PM |
#189 |
| -
They remind me more of Mercedes |
htuttle |
Jan-11-05 05:35 PM |
#46 |
| -
At this price, I just might give the Mac another shot. |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Jan-11-05 06:04 PM |
#47 |
| -
Verify the specs before blindly calling it 'not a bad price for...'. It's |
HypnoToad |
Jan-11-05 06:38 PM |
#51 |
| -
I Looked at the Specs |
Crisco |
Jan-11-05 07:30 PM |
#59 |
| -
Umm a G4 is not gonna have a problem with "chewy media" |
chenGOD |
Jan-12-05 11:25 AM |
#135 |
| -
Bubble Gum |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 11:33 AM |
#137 |
| -
Ahhh bubble gum is a chewy media indeed... |
chenGOD |
Jan-12-05 12:04 PM |
#147 |
| -
Without a doubt, some of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen |
Atman |
Jan-13-05 09:44 PM |
#166 |
| -
Yeah! What he said! |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-14-05 03:17 AM |
#171 |
| -
Your monitor will work |
Sparky McGruff |
Jan-11-05 06:48 PM |
#55 |
| -
Get a USB Keyboard/mouse adapter |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 08:47 AM |
#100 |
| -
The "Macintosh" keyboard I recently ordered |
rocknation |
Jan-13-05 04:07 PM |
#165 |
| -
comes with vga convertor, so no monitor worries. |
NuttyFluffers |
Jan-14-05 06:07 AM |
#178 |
| -
It has a keyboard but NO MONITOR. Apple is FLEECING, once again... And, |
HypnoToad |
Jan-11-05 06:37 PM |
#50 |
| -
heh |
LifeDuringWartime |
Jan-11-05 07:28 PM |
#58 |
| -
What are you talking about? |
parasim |
Jan-11-05 07:38 PM |
#60 |
| -
What the hell are you talking about? |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-11-05 09:32 PM |
#78 |
| -
lol |
bpilgrim |
Jan-11-05 09:41 PM |
#82 |
| -
Mac Mini Specs: |
Q |
Jan-11-05 07:57 PM |
#61 |
| -
one thing i really dont like |
LifeDuringWartime |
Jan-11-05 08:10 PM |
#64 |
| -
Power button in the back? |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 09:32 AM |
#112 |
| -
Well, don't buy it then... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-12-05 02:07 PM |
#152 |
| -
I don't turn my computer off... except during thunderstorms of |
BigMcLargehuge |
Jan-13-05 08:14 AM |
#162 |
| -
Most Mac keyboards have power buttons on them |
Touchdown |
Jan-13-05 02:44 PM |
#163 |
| -
Not bad specs |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 09:25 AM |
#108 |
| -
My aunt just bought four of the Mac Mini. |
huellewig |
Jan-11-05 08:12 PM |
#65 |
| -
People are still using Mac's? Wow, that is like so 80's. n/t |
VegasWolf |
Jan-11-05 08:39 PM |
#69 |
| -
woah! don't trash the mac |
MalachiConstant |
Jan-11-05 08:47 PM |
#70 |
| -
HOLY CRAP! |
MalachiConstant |
Jan-11-05 08:55 PM |
#71 |
| -
I like this one.. |
huellewig |
Jan-11-05 09:15 PM |
#74 |
| -
LOL! " ... and PC required but sold seprately"! |
VegasWolf |
Jan-12-05 02:16 PM |
#154 |
| -
why can't i eat my iPod shuffle? ;) |
NuttyFluffers |
Jan-14-05 06:39 AM |
#179 |
| -
Low end? |
PsychoDad |
Jan-11-05 09:15 PM |
#73 |
| -
Well, go buy that then... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-11-05 09:35 PM |
#79 |
| -
How do you know they don't work? |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 08:39 AM |
#99 |
| -
Well, we're no longer allowed to buy HP's here at work |
Xithras |
Jan-12-05 12:13 PM |
#149 |
| -
If I were in the market |
PsychoDad |
Jan-12-05 11:27 AM |
#136 |
| -
I'm going to get this to run my mac jaz disks on. We have a |
roguevalley |
Jan-11-05 09:38 PM |
#81 |
| -
Celeron . . . ewww. |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 10:01 AM |
#118 |
| -
And that is the PCs fault because? |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 10:10 AM |
#120 |
| -
? |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 10:21 AM |
#121 |
| -
Many different CPUs available |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 10:28 AM |
#123 |
| -
The computer came with it, and I was most unhappy with it's performance |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 10:42 AM |
#125 |
| -
That is the same reason why a lot of people hate macs |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 10:59 AM |
#127 |
| -
You seem to have an axe to grind |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 11:04 AM |
#130 |
| -
No ax here to grind |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 11:16 AM |
#133 |
| -
Well, to be picky, Mac refers to the OS, not the computer... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-12-05 02:10 PM |
#153 |
| -
Ok, just wanted to clear things up |
da_chimperor |
Jan-12-05 04:11 PM |
#157 |
| -
The pc before thie one I use now... |
PsychoDad |
Jan-12-05 11:21 AM |
#134 |
| -
Remember you can't compare PC speeds w/Mac speeds, |
Fiendish Thingy |
Jan-12-05 03:47 PM |
#156 |
| -
thank god: we don't have to buy Repug Dell anymore... |
chomskysright |
Jan-11-05 10:32 PM |
#85 |
| -
I use a G5 Mac... |
Algomas |
Jan-11-05 11:12 PM |
#86 |
| -
Ummm, not my case... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-12-05 01:29 AM |
#90 |
| -
I know of a bad carpenter who always blames his tools... |
Q |
Jan-12-05 08:05 AM |
#94 |
| -
Tools do break |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 08:25 AM |
#96 |
| -
Parts for apples are hard to find? |
chenGOD |
Jan-12-05 11:34 AM |
#138 |
| -
Yeah, I think I was talking about Apple Motherboard Problems |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 11:49 AM |
#141 |
| -
Yes I would advise anyone to buy AppleCare... |
chenGOD |
Jan-12-05 12:13 PM |
#148 |
| -
Worst tech support ever. |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 08:10 AM |
#95 |
| -
wow |
LifeDuringWartime |
Jan-12-05 09:32 AM |
#111 |
| -
They give you the run around |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 09:46 AM |
#117 |
| -
Can anybody tell me.. |
Tripmann |
Jan-12-05 04:38 AM |
#92 |
| -
Totally feasible. |
benburch |
Jan-12-05 07:53 AM |
#93 |
| -
Thanks, |
Tripmann |
Jan-12-05 09:30 AM |
#110 |
| -
it will probably run pro tools very smoothly |
LifeDuringWartime |
Jan-12-05 09:35 AM |
#113 |
| -
lots of people running LE with a laptop and an mbox or 002 |
bullimiami |
Jan-12-05 07:34 PM |
#160 |
| -
Firewire. Easy as an egg. |
politicat |
Jan-19-05 10:28 PM |
#190 |
| -
Would it be good for Seniors? |
goclark |
Jan-12-05 11:02 AM |
#129 |
| -
I couldn't see why not |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 11:11 AM |
#132 |
| -
Good for Apple, earnings have been an explosion since the iPod frenzy |
TheDonkey |
Jan-12-05 11:42 AM |
#139 |
| -
Yep iPods are now a household name, good work |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 11:58 AM |
#143 |
| -
Anyone who hates the Mac is a Freeper! |
meisje |
Jan-12-05 11:46 AM |
#140 |
| -
Very uneducated |
boredofeducation |
Jan-12-05 11:50 AM |
#142 |
| -
Actually, I think Rush Limbaugh still uses a Mac -- he always used to |
htuttle |
Jan-12-05 12:04 PM |
#146 |
| -
Perfect size for a doorstop |
Cronus Protagonist |
Jan-12-05 03:11 PM |
#155 |
| -
Yeah, but unlike a PC, it will never be used as a doorstop... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-12-05 07:34 PM |
#159 |
| -
This is the Mac I've been waiting for |
LeftCoast |
Jan-13-05 03:54 PM |
#164 |
| -
I have a 20 inch monitor just sitting here collecting dust |
eleonora |
Jan-14-05 02:02 AM |
#168 |
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