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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:04 PM
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3. One reason I kinda like small towns
Sure, we still get some of that snobbiness. But everybody goes to the same public school, the low income housing is mixed in with all the middle income housing. And you know when the rich fucks get in trouble so you can always take them down a peg or two if they get too snobby at you.

Are they putting in any "housing first" projects in your area? About 20 cities are starting projects for the chronic homeless where an apartment is the first thing provided, and any social services come after that. It turns out people can manage their personal issues better when they don't have to worry about a place to live and food to eat (duh).
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  -Low-Income Housing? NIMBY!!!!! bobbolink  Apr-03-08 12:57 PM   #0 
  - Whoa, did you come to the wrong place for sympathy. Theres  acmavm   Apr-03-08 12:59 PM   #1 
  - Thank you very much for your honesty! I've been saying for quite a while, and I have the bruises  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:05 PM   #4 
  - 'Progressives' aren't all that 'progressive' when it comes to their  acmavm   Apr-03-08 01:17 PM   #9 
     - Quite accurate. Also, it's just not a "sexy" issue, as a commentator on Air America radio  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:26 PM   #11 
  - I own  reggie the dog   Apr-03-08 04:01 PM   #57 
     - I've thought a lot about what you've said in this piece....  bobbolink   Apr-07-08 01:07 PM   #74 
  - When the middle class "sneezes", the poor get the flu  eleny   Apr-03-08 01:03 PM   #2 
  - I knew I was feeling something coming on....  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:07 PM   #5 
  - One reason I kinda like small towns  sandnsea   Apr-03-08 01:04 PM   #3 
  - Well my small town...  dajoki   Apr-03-08 01:46 PM   #24 
     - Well you need to take them the Constitution  sandnsea   Apr-03-08 01:49 PM   #26 
     - 6,000...  dajoki   Apr-03-08 02:10 PM   #34 
        - ACLU  sandnsea   Apr-03-08 02:50 PM   #40 
     - They want elitism, and expect workers (read: servants) to disappear when the work is  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 02:14 PM   #35 
  - BTW, "downtown" refers to not only a city a ways away, but a whole other country!  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:10 PM   #6 
  - Heh.. that is COUNTY. sigh....  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 02:15 PM   #36 
  - The El Rancho, where ever that is, project seems like a great one. It's so true that many people  sinkingfeeling   Apr-03-08 01:13 PM   #7 
  - I've heard 1/3 of the homeless are mentally ill  Juche   Apr-03-08 01:16 PM   #8 
  - You heard wrong. Check my source. THEY are the experts on this.  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:29 PM   #12 
  - How quaint  Juche   Apr-03-08 01:42 PM   #20 
     - I knew I'd get a DUer to be ugly on this thread. Thanks for your sneer.  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:52 PM   #28 
     - Bigotry is bigotry...  dajoki   Apr-03-08 02:01 PM   #31 
  - Maybe they are.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Apr-03-08 01:44 PM   #21 
     - Please, could we PLEASE recognize the difference here???  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:54 PM   #29 
     - Excellent summary here  Naturyl   May-13-08 07:37 PM   #79 
  - They're doing the same thing in the area where I live  Paint It Black   Apr-03-08 01:20 PM   #10 
  - What are the liberals in your area doing about it?  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:30 PM   #13 
  - wouldn't low-income housing make people less likely to commit crimes?  Cant trust em   Apr-03-08 01:37 PM   #16 
     - Of course. It's just a red-herring. What's really funny, is that when they talk about  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:56 PM   #30 
  - You are always out there on the battle front.  demgurl   Apr-03-08 01:33 PM   #14 
  - I was just blasted today on the Edwards forum for being too "militant", so I appreciate your kind  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:41 PM   #18 
  - Edwards supporters are saying you're too militant?  Cant trust em   Apr-03-08 01:50 PM   #27 
  - Yup, I'm too militant.  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 02:06 PM   #33 
     - Ms. Ehrenreich is far too sanguine.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Apr-03-08 02:55 PM   #41 
     - You could well be right. She didn't see some of the worst, although I respect her work  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 02:58 PM   #43 
        - Please do.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Apr-03-08 03:02 PM   #45 
           - Thanks. What I'm working on writing now is so depressing, this kind of humor is a boon.  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 03:04 PM   #47 
     - It's going to take cataclysmic social/political event for people to understand poverty  Cant trust em   Apr-03-08 03:08 PM   #49 
        - Many people are saying the same thing, as empathy is now a relic of the past.  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 08:58 PM   #63 
  - Sending out big hugs to you.  demgurl   Apr-03-08 03:05 PM   #48 
     - Friendly hugs greatfully received! I and a few others speaking out for poor folk  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 11:21 AM   #70 
  - Thank you for this...  Naturyl   May-13-08 07:44 PM   #80 
  - What is progressivism if not a focus on poverty?  Cant trust em   Apr-03-08 01:33 PM   #15 
  - I ask the same question. And get darts thrown at me for my effort.  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:42 PM   #19 
  - The risk factors for people...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Apr-03-08 01:37 PM   #17 
  - I agree with you, but I want to correct one thing.. this is a WORKING community being proposed.  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:46 PM   #23 
  - It seems that the new urbanism does not  realpolitik   Apr-03-08 01:44 PM   #22 
  - And what's happening is more IMMIGRANTS coming in for JOBS!  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 02:03 PM   #32 
  - Shameless begging here... could I please have more recs from you good people  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 01:47 PM   #25 
  - You got one! Hope you are doing OK, Bobbolink. :hug: nt  raccoon   Apr-03-08 02:21 PM   #37 
     - THanks!!  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 02:27 PM   #38 
  - K&R I'm still trying to figure out what a progressive is!  caseycoon   Apr-03-08 02:48 PM   #39 
  - But, but, but!!!  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Apr-03-08 02:57 PM   #42 
  - "Personal responsibility for thee, but not for me!"  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 03:02 PM   #46 
  - OH ain't that the truth!  caseycoon   Apr-03-08 03:42 PM   #54 
  - If I never heard the term "personal responsibility" again...  Naturyl   May-13-08 07:56 PM   #81 
  - OMG, you are a prophet! This is ELOQUENT!!  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 03:01 PM   #44 
  - Bobbie, you have more eloquence in your little finger  caseycoon   Apr-03-08 03:38 PM   #52 
     - aw, pshaw! but thanks..... I used your words for the piece I've copied and  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 08:48 PM   #61 
  - Progressive is the new buzzword since Liberal is a swear word  Cant trust em   Apr-03-08 03:13 PM   #50 
  - I am a LIBERAL  caseycoon   Apr-03-08 03:34 PM   #51 
     - political labels are just a way for the media to put us in a box.  Cant trust em   Apr-03-08 03:40 PM   #53 
     - Most things the media says are useless.  caseycoon   Apr-03-08 03:48 PM   #55 
        - The "He's liberal! Oh no!" issue will always make me rant.  Cant trust em   Apr-03-08 03:50 PM   #56 
           - LOL!  caseycoon   Apr-03-08 04:07 PM   #58 
     - HAH! I got you beat! ^_^  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 08:23 PM   #60 
        - True! One a them WILD EYED radicals no less!  caseycoon   Apr-03-08 08:59 PM   #64 
           - Don't shoot!!!  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 09:08 PM   #65 
  - Before the 80s, homelessness was rare where I lived, and the few that were homeless  eridani   Apr-04-08 04:53 AM   #67 
     - Yes, it was rare. And since the "looney bins" were emptied in the 50's and 60's, it's time to put  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 11:09 AM   #69 
        - So are you suggesting that we go back to having bigger  TexasBushwhacker   Apr-11-08 09:37 PM   #78 
  - K&R  flashl   Apr-03-08 04:56 PM   #59 
  - Kick n/t  caseycoon   Apr-03-08 08:55 PM   #62 
  - Update... I printed out copies of what I wrote here, and got them to a lot of people today,  bobbolink   Apr-03-08 09:10 PM   #66 
  - Know them by their actions, k&r n/t  blindpig   Apr-04-08 07:25 AM   #68 
  - One day my 10 year old daughter came with me to a homeless shelter  wellstone dem   Apr-05-08 10:13 AM   #71 
  - Such an important point! I *hate* the term "the homeless* -- taking away our humanity.  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 01:30 PM   #73 
  - It's interesting that the people who are  Kajsa   Apr-05-08 10:39 AM   #72 
  - Good post. More mixed-income housing is needed here.  KillCapitalism   Apr-10-08 10:54 PM   #75 
  - This sounds appealing to me, also, but.... I've heard from some NOLA people  bobbolink   Apr-11-08 12:30 PM   #76 
  - I'd totally live in a mixed-income neighborhood  Karl_Bonner_1982   Jun-09-08 01:35 AM   #82 
     - Yep, outta sight, outta mind!  maryf   Jun-10-08 05:08 PM   #83 
  - We're having the same issue in Austin  TexasBushwhacker   Apr-11-08 09:26 PM   #77 

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