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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:14 PM
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72. Shelters aren't the answer at all. We need housing.
I think we need to give up on the idea of affordable housing and think instead of supportive housing. Section 8 without the landlord. Sliding scale and free for those who are truly destitute. That's where I'd start.
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  -Everyone should volunteer at a homeless shelter at least once. knitter4democracy  Feb-12-08 11:01 AM   #0 
  - Hell, I think everybody should have to STAY at one  Warpy   Feb-12-08 11:15 AM   #1 
  - I agree. My experience was bad enough, but we had a dorm to sleep in.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 12:21 PM   #7 
     - A woman I know who was homeless tells me of her brother's friend with AIDS.  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 01:28 PM   #12 
        - See, I don't think he's alone.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 01:35 PM   #14 
        - Why is it stupid? Yanno, it becomes a total no-win situation!  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 01:54 PM   #16 
           - He did the only rational thing in a country that's gone insane.  Warpy   Feb-12-08 01:59 PM   #18 
           - Yuo're so very right, and your wit is tremendous!  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 08:51 PM   #48 
           - Oh, no, I meant stupid as in could get himself hurt.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 03:08 PM   #22 
              - I don't consider it "stupid" at all.  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 06:57 PM   #38 
        - Things like this were happening 35 years ago.  caseycoon   Feb-12-08 10:26 PM   #52 
           - Thank you for drawing the distinction between drunks and the majority of homeless people now!  bobbolink   Feb-13-08 06:23 PM   #68 
  - I help out  Mojorabbit   Feb-12-08 11:17 AM   #2 
  - Pregnant with triplets?! Poor thing!  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 12:22 PM   #8 
  - You CAN do more!  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 02:46 PM   #21 
  - Your post is so damn sad I don`t know where to begin.  rubberducky   Feb-12-08 11:33 AM   #3 
  - I'm in MI, too. It's really bad here.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 12:16 PM   #5 
  - The cost of housing the homeless  izquierdista   Feb-12-08 12:06 PM   #4 
  - I came up with this idea today--what do you think?  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 12:19 PM   #6 
  - I'll go you one better  izquierdista   Feb-12-08 01:05 PM   #10 
     - I like that idea. I think it would have to be federal government, though.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 01:24 PM   #11 
     - Are you mentally ill??? I'm fucking not, and I'm getting so goddamned tired of that shit!  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 02:07 PM   #19 
     - I said often, not always  izquierdista   Feb-12-08 03:36 PM   #25 
        - Are you always so authoritarian?  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 06:45 PM   #33 
        - No, I don't think she was mentally ill.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 07:44 PM   #44 
        - Are you channeling LaWanda Page?  izquierdista   Feb-13-08 03:26 AM   #55 
           - Um, I'm sorry. I don't get it.  knitter4democracy   Feb-13-08 03:54 PM   #63 
        - Back off  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-17-08 04:58 PM   #89 
     - Not everyone who's homeless is mentally ill.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 03:12 PM   #23 
        - Often  izquierdista   Feb-12-08 03:44 PM   #26 
           - I'm not sure about often, either.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 04:10 PM   #28 
              - Take a visit to Los Angeles or Phoenix  izquierdista   Feb-12-08 04:44 PM   #30 
                 - I totally agree with your second paragraph.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 05:27 PM   #31 
                    - You agree with that? That whole list of in loco parentis controls?  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 06:51 PM   #35 
                       - I agreed with getting people housing first.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 07:22 PM   #40 
                          - That's not at all how I read that post.  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 07:42 PM   #43 
                          - What?! A course on money just to get food from the food bank?!  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 07:47 PM   #45 
                          - Thanks, and yes, it's one more slap.... one more blaming of the victim.  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 08:01 PM   #46 
                             - That sounds like something you posted.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 08:18 PM   #47 
                          - That's absurd and insulting  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-13-08 11:35 PM   #73 
                          - Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!  izquierdista   Feb-13-08 03:49 AM   #56 
                             - Have you been to Russia and talked with people there?  knitter4democracy   Feb-13-08 02:45 PM   #59 
                             - Last month  izquierdista   Feb-13-08 03:18 PM   #61 
                                - It's true that it's worse, but that doesn't mean it was right before.  knitter4democracy   Feb-13-08 03:53 PM   #62 
                                   - Simferopol!  izquierdista   Feb-14-08 02:37 AM   #75 
                                      - We do need the social will, that's true.  knitter4democracy   Feb-14-08 09:11 AM   #79 
                                         - Rounding people up  izquierdista   Feb-14-08 09:50 AM   #80 
                                            - All very good ideas.  knitter4democracy   Feb-14-08 11:02 AM   #81 
                             - I"ll say it again... YOU live in a dormitory the rest of your life!  bobbolink   Feb-13-08 05:36 PM   #64 
  - I'm 62 years old.... I don't need a damned dormitory, for gawd's sake!  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 01:57 PM   #17 
     - Dormitory life  izquierdista   Feb-12-08 03:48 PM   #27 
        - Can we please keep it civil around here?  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 05:37 PM   #32 
        - College dorm living... one roommate, maybe up to 4.  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 06:53 PM   #36 
        - Hey, sweetie, YOU have't been in a dormitory if you had a single room!  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 06:47 PM   #34 
           - Yes  izquierdista   Feb-13-08 04:25 AM   #57 
              - AGain, I'm very thankful you and your parental attitudes aren't running this country!  bobbolink   Feb-13-08 05:38 PM   #65 
              - Yes, that's a good thing  izquierdista   Feb-14-08 02:54 AM   #76 
              - Keep cranking out all that RAygun propaganda!!  bobbolink   Feb-13-08 05:58 PM   #67 
  - Recommend! What a great way to bump up your karma points  Cant trust em   Feb-12-08 12:28 PM   #9 
  - I don't think volunteering is the answer.... experience LIVING in a shelter!  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 01:31 PM   #13 
  - You and Warpy are right--staying in one would be a real eye-opener.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 01:38 PM   #15 
  - Very moving post, and absolutely right. K & R.  apocalypsehow   Feb-12-08 02:34 PM   #20 
  - I think so, too  kdmorris   Feb-12-08 03:32 PM   #24 
  - *shudder* I can just imagine that.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 04:11 PM   #29 
  - Things are better now, yes  kdmorris   Feb-13-08 06:51 AM   #58 
     - The real you is that gorgeous person typing on that keyboard.  knitter4democracy   Feb-13-08 02:48 PM   #60 
        - Thanks!  kdmorris   Feb-13-08 07:56 PM   #70 
           - You did what you had to do.  knitter4democracy   Feb-13-08 10:05 PM   #71 
  - MOST people in shelters don't get sleep! For various reasons.  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 06:55 PM   #37 
  - On this whole "mental Illness" crap....  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 07:00 PM   #39 
  - Wow. This is so right.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 07:26 PM   #41 
  - Glad you could see it---that is a brilliant writer, and I doubt most of DU will ever really  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 07:39 PM   #42 
  - There ARE problems with the people  izquierdista   Feb-14-08 03:13 AM   #77 
  - I wish this was required reading for everyone!  caseycoon   Feb-12-08 10:43 PM   #54 
  - Indeed! This comes from a talented writer, but not recognized on DU like Pitt, etc.  bobbolink   Feb-13-08 05:54 PM   #66 
     - If the solution is to empower the poor, then the old idea of a  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-13-08 11:59 PM   #74 
        - Yes, Nixon, our last liberal president, had it right--a guaranteed annual income!  bobbolink   Feb-14-08 02:48 PM   #85 
  - Wow, this level of nail-hitting is rare  Naturyl   May-13-08 09:01 PM   #90 
     - thanks and kick  maryf   May-14-08 05:50 PM   #91 
        - Better late to the party than never, right?  bobbolink   May-14-08 06:31 PM   #92 
  - MOre on "mental illness"  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 08:58 PM   #49 
  - Sam Shem writes as much in Mount Misery.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 09:17 PM   #50 
     - Thanks... I"ll have to look it up!  bobbolink   Feb-12-08 09:22 PM   #51 
        - I'll warn you--it'll give you nightmares.  knitter4democracy   Feb-12-08 10:30 PM   #53 
  - Falling into the River -- repost....  bobbolink   Feb-13-08 06:26 PM   #69 
  - Shelters aren't the answer at all. We need housing.  knitter4democracy   Feb-13-08 10:14 PM   #72 
  - that would be a GREAT start! So, how to do it?  bobbolink   Feb-14-08 12:45 PM   #82 
     - I'm pretty sure our city doesn't have the funds, so I don't know.  knitter4democracy   Feb-14-08 03:05 PM   #86 
  - #1 Kick out the "disaster capitalists"  izquierdista   Feb-14-08 03:55 AM   #78 
     - By continuuing your RAYGUN shit about alkies, and dissing me, you ARE  bobbolink   Feb-14-08 12:50 PM   #83 
        - Truth hurts  izquierdista   Feb-14-08 01:23 PM   #84 
  - I worked in a family shelter for a nearly two years  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-17-08 04:47 PM   #87 
  - "How fowl humans can be" Sadly, that is so very true... kick 'em while they're down...  bobbolink   Feb-17-08 04:51 PM   #88 
  - Yes, More People Should Volunteer.  Aliens_UFOs_Facts   Aug-10-08 10:36 PM   #93 
  - Volunteer for what?  bobbolink   Aug-13-08 02:20 PM   #94 
  - I interviewed a man who helps run a local not-for-profit for the homeless  shrike   Aug-14-08 01:31 PM   #95 
  - There is only ONE reason that people are homeless---  bobbolink   Aug-14-08 02:12 PM   #96 
     - We need a stronger system for all  Jerouse79   Oct-07-08 02:57 AM   #97 
        - Welcome to DU, Jerouse79  tosh   Oct-07-08 10:45 AM   #98 
        - Jerouse79, Welcome to DU, and the Poverty Forum!  bobbolink   Oct-10-08 12:51 PM   #99 
        - A big WELCOME to DU!  caseycoon   Oct-10-08 01:39 PM   #100 
        - Welcome  maryf   Oct-10-08 07:38 PM   #101 
        - Welcome to DU Jerouse79...  dajoki   Oct-12-08 02:12 PM   #102 
           - Thank you for your warm welcome  Jerouse79   Oct-12-08 03:42 PM   #103 
              - I have been asking for that...  dajoki   Oct-12-08 07:22 PM   #104 
  - I want to volunteer at a vegetarian soup kitchen in a nearby suburb  crownchakrabound   Oct-27-08 12:11 PM   #105 
 

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