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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:26 PM
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31. Society is more demeaning to women of all weights..
than to men.

Men are sort of invisible in this society, in terms of appearance. Women are much more scrutinized, particularly young women. We encourage it, consciously or not, by wearing make up and dressing fashionably. Kirstie Ally probably owes her career to the double standard.

Maybe you focus on the fat issue because it effects you personally. I know women that would prefer being overweight to whatever flaw (real or perceived) they think is holding them back.
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  -Fat is a feminist issue the Princess  Mar-08-05 03:36 PM   #0 
  - Uh?  maggiecleveland   Mar-08-05 03:38 PM   #1 
  - I said exactly what I meant.  the Princess   Mar-08-05 03:39 PM   #2 
     - More than fat men? n/t  wtmusic   Mar-08-05 03:42 PM   #4 
     - OH much more then fat men  the Princess   Mar-08-05 03:55 PM   #8 
        - Yeah, it is a real question.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 05:54 PM   #40 
           - Here's some statistics  Heddi   Mar-08-05 06:19 PM   #58 
     - I know many  maggiecleveland   Mar-08-05 04:03 PM   #13 
        - That is the most rediculous response to what I have posted.  the Princess   Mar-08-05 04:09 PM   #16 
           - Now I'm confused...  maggiecleveland   Mar-08-05 04:12 PM   #17 
  - I remember that book from about 20 years ago..I may still have it.  BrklynLiberal   Mar-08-05 03:40 PM   #3 
  - you implying that feminists are fat chicks?  cheezus   Mar-08-05 03:47 PM   #5 
  - That was not the concept of fat as a feminist issue  etherealtruth   Mar-08-05 03:51 PM   #7 
  - While I agree  salvorhardin   Mar-08-05 03:58 PM   #11 
  - OK so lets see  the Princess   Mar-08-05 04:05 PM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 04:21 PM   #19 
  - speaking as a 105 lb female who eats more than her overweight  freeplessinseattle   Mar-08-05 04:39 PM   #23 
  - Been there and done that...  etherealtruth   Mar-08-05 04:49 PM   #27 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 04:43 PM   #24 
  - OK...so u chewed me up..ha  mexicoxpat   Mar-08-05 05:03 PM   #29 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 05:53 PM   #39 
        - OK, then!  mexicoxpat   Mar-08-05 06:22 PM   #64 
           - OK  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:28 PM   #68 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:28 PM   #69 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:33 PM   #76 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:36 PM   #79 
                    - OK, then...  mexicoxpat   Mar-08-05 07:04 PM   #101 
  - You're right and you're wrong  salvorhardin   Mar-08-05 04:46 PM   #25 
  - I disagree that fat men aren't also discriminated against  Beaverhausen   Mar-08-05 04:30 PM   #21 
  - I never said they didn't suffer prejudice  the Princess   Mar-08-05 04:51 PM   #28 
  - Fat Gov't Leaders  Heddi   Mar-08-05 05:26 PM   #32 
     - William Howard Taft  CO Liberal   Mar-08-05 08:15 PM   #106 
  - What an incredible overgeneralization  Steve_DeShazer   Mar-08-05 05:38 PM   #33 
  - In the end it usually comes down to MONEY in all issues  SoCalDem   Mar-08-05 05:49 PM   #36 
  - Just waht do you mean by fat?  RoeBear   Mar-08-05 06:08 PM   #48 
  - I think guys face other biases...  etherealtruth   Mar-08-05 04:23 PM   #20 
     - That's all I was trying to say  salvorhardin   Mar-08-05 04:31 PM   #22 
     - I Can Name Two Offhand  CO Liberal   Mar-08-05 08:17 PM   #107 
  - Society is more demeaning to women of all weights..  girl gone mad   Mar-08-05 05:26 PM   #31 
     - Now the tough question..  RoeBear   Mar-08-05 06:15 PM   #56 
        - Women are tougher  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:45 PM   #90 
  - OMG  the Princess   Mar-08-05 03:56 PM   #9 
  - Are You Implying That All Fat People Are Not Healthy????  CO Liberal   Mar-08-05 08:11 PM   #105 
  - I quit smoking...  etherealtruth   Mar-08-05 03:48 PM   #6 
  - I think we need to reclaim the word fat  the Princess   Mar-08-05 03:57 PM   #10 
     - I think that is what Kirstie Alley is trying to do with her show  Beaverhausen   Mar-08-05 04:19 PM   #18 
        - She is not fat and proud  the Princess   Mar-08-05 04:48 PM   #26 
           - So don't watch it.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 05:56 PM   #41 
              - Don't put words in my mouth  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:03 PM   #44 
                 - good - so dont watch it... and while you are at it heres some other things  RPM   Mar-08-05 08:52 PM   #109 
  - Some of the comments on that thread pissed me off, too  Love Bug   Mar-08-05 04:03 PM   #12 
  - AMEN!  the Princess   Mar-08-05 04:08 PM   #15 
  - Interesting argument.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 05:52 PM   #38 
  - Did you see "Fat Actress"? great show n/t  Medium Baby Jesus   Mar-08-05 05:09 PM   #30 
  - As another fattie, I found it hilarious!  DarleenMB   Mar-08-05 06:02 PM   #43 
  - I saw a sticker on a car the other day that said  wildeyed   Mar-08-05 05:41 PM   #34 
  - Let's compare fat actors to fat actresses  Heddi   Mar-08-05 05:48 PM   #35 
  - You proved my point  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:05 PM   #45 
     - Proved your point...  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:07 PM   #47 
     - So why it is it more acceptable for a fat man to have a leading role  Heddi   Mar-08-05 06:10 PM   #51 
     - That's right it's not FAT on a man  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:15 PM   #55 
     - I have never heard anyone say that.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:20 PM   #61 
        - You've not spent alot of time around obese men then  Heddi   Mar-08-05 06:29 PM   #73 
     - Because the fat men who watch  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:19 PM   #59 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:11 PM   #52 
        - Wow, you have an active imagination, don't you?  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:17 PM   #57 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:23 PM   #65 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:27 PM   #67 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:32 PM   #75 
                 - First of all, the "sick of men"  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:36 PM   #78 
                    - You were completely out of line in that post  Heddi   Mar-08-05 06:43 PM   #86 
                       - That isn't what I was complaining about.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:45 PM   #89 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:47 PM   #91 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:49 PM   #94 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:53 PM   #97 
                 - I'm not sick of men (another argument used by misogynists)  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:34 PM   #77 
                    - But yet you don't want any men to appreciate you?  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:40 PM   #83 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:42 PM   #84 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:43 PM   #87 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:48 PM   #92 
                                - Yeah, asking you to back up insults is a bitch.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:50 PM   #95 
                                   - I don' thave to back up an opinion. LOL  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:53 PM   #98 
                                   - I don' thave to back up an opinion. LOL  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:53 PM   #99 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:09 PM   #50 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:13 PM   #54 
     - Shouldn't that be  RoeBear   Mar-08-05 06:20 PM   #62 
  - Prove it.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 05:50 PM   #37 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:01 PM   #42 
  - And I find it interesting  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:05 PM   #46 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:08 PM   #49 
     - I never said you should lose weight.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:12 PM   #53 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-05 06:20 PM   #60 
           - *sigh* I'm saying that you can't simply say  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:22 PM   #63 
              - I never said that - YOU did.  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:25 PM   #66 
              - Well, since you said  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:29 PM   #72 
                 - Nope never did  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:37 PM   #80 
                    - So did you.  Lone Pawn   Mar-08-05 06:42 PM   #85 
                       - And YOU said  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:52 PM   #96 
              - Don't waste your time  Steve_DeShazer   Mar-08-05 06:29 PM   #71 
                 - Flame induced???????????????  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:38 PM   #81 
  - That's because...  Barad Simith   Mar-08-05 06:32 PM   #74 
     - Fat is a Feminist issue is inflamatory????????????????????  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:39 PM   #82 
        - Standing alone, with no context, it is...  Barad Simith   Mar-08-05 06:44 PM   #88 
           - Fat IS a feminist issue  the Princess   Mar-08-05 06:49 PM   #93 
              - I didn't even take a position  Barad Simith   Mar-08-05 06:58 PM   #100 
                 - You're right. It does affect men  Heddi   Mar-08-05 07:16 PM   #102 
                    - Trends in Bariatric Surgery in Wisconsin  Heddi   Mar-08-05 07:30 PM   #103 
  - I found this article, but I couldn't find the one I was looking for  Nikia   Mar-08-05 08:10 PM   #104 
     - here's another along the same line  Heddi   Mar-08-05 08:20 PM   #108 
  - The Beauty Myth/ Naomi Wolfe  etherealtruth   Mar-08-05 06:28 PM   #70 
 

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