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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 04:09 PM
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41. You make my point perfectly
You don't give a flying fuck. More than that: YOU BENEFIT FROM SEXISM, from the inequality, from having the inherent Patriarchal-God-given-right to insult women and make yourself and all your male friends "better than" any female alive.

Oh, yeah, you think differently for sure. Yes indeedy.

Here's a clue for ya: Progressives and liberals and even moderate and conservative Dems are supposed to care about oppression -- discrimination based on race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation and gender. Men who call themselves progressives but just can't find it in their black little hearts and ugly souls to give a damn about sexism are an embarrassment -- and worse, a DRAG -- to the party and the country.

YOU will never be truly free until you take your boots off the necks of this nation's and the world's women.
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  -Misogyny as Male Bonding Morgana LaFey  Dec-26-06 07:05 PM   #0 
  - Oh boy, did you hit it on the head. Great subject.. K&R!  Joanne98   Dec-26-06 07:07 PM   #1 
  - See also: Elephant Day Parade by The Beat Farmers  IanDB1   Dec-26-06 07:11 PM   #2 
  - I challenge sexist posts/phrases as I find them at DU.  IndyOp   Dec-26-06 07:12 PM   #3 
  - How about this?  PSPS   Dec-26-06 07:28 PM   #4 
  - Kick  Joanne98   Dec-26-06 07:57 PM   #5 
  - As for the misogynistic posts here on DU  etherealtruth   Dec-26-06 08:17 PM   #6 
  - But the problem with that defense is this  Morgana LaFey   Dec-26-06 08:21 PM   #7 
     - I think they often do ...  etherealtruth   Dec-26-06 08:30 PM   #8 
     - Well, actually, you are denying the problem  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 04:11 PM   #42 
        - What an unusual response ...  etherealtruth   Dec-28-06 06:19 AM   #87 
     - I'll ask the question of  Heywoodj   Dec-26-06 10:56 PM   #11 
        - You make my point perfectly  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 04:09 PM   #41 
  - K & R...  femrap   Dec-26-06 10:01 PM   #9 
  - 'many males feel this is their constitutional right.'  realpolitik   Dec-26-06 11:56 PM   #15 
  - So, do you feel the same way about those postcards showing  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 04:25 PM   #43 
  - While he is a male  realpolitik   Dec-27-06 10:51 PM   #71 
  - Most p0rn? And the rest?  femrap   Dec-27-06 09:21 PM   #66 
     - I find plenty of objectification  realpolitik   Dec-27-06 09:36 PM   #68 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-30-06 11:28 AM   #128 
  - Honestly, a few years on this board and I have come to  smirkymonkey   Mar-23-07 06:39 PM   #145 
  - Just a short question to get some persepective on your views  NobleCynic   Dec-26-06 10:34 PM   #10 
  - i rec'd this thread b/c i totally agree with the poster -- on Sex and the City...  nashville_brook   Dec-26-06 11:48 PM   #13 
     - Right, when men do it, it's disgusting chauvanism,  Dr_eldritch   Dec-27-06 12:04 AM   #16 
     - That's not what was said -- you excel at that, don't you?  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 04:35 PM   #45 
     - Interesting  NobleCynic   Dec-27-06 12:24 AM   #17 
     - i'm 40, but have friends who are much younger  nashville_brook   Dec-27-06 01:19 AM   #20 
     - Clarification, please?  Orrex   Dec-27-06 11:30 AM   #27 
        - Eye of the beholder I suppose  NobleCynic   Dec-27-06 08:48 PM   #63 
     - Levy was interviewed on Fresh Air a few weeks back  Orrex   Dec-27-06 11:27 AM   #26 
     - loved her on Colbert -- will check this out! thanks!  nashville_brook   Dec-27-06 02:37 PM   #34 
     - Thanks. I imagine that covers it.  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 04:31 PM   #44 
     - and, i hate to say it, but reckless sexuality can hurt women...  nashville_brook   Dec-27-06 05:16 PM   #52 
     - That's exactly it --  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 05:23 PM   #54 
     - oppressed-oppressor.... white girl here... i totally GET that!  nashville_brook   Dec-27-06 05:37 PM   #55 
        - I saw an Oprah show where they were doing some relationship  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 06:15 PM   #58 
     - Amen to that!  raccoon   Mar-27-07 10:00 AM   #151 
     - "IF there are women out there as shallow and superficial as I imagined,  realpolitik   Dec-28-06 08:08 PM   #99 
     - i am confused. why is there a naked female. why not a naked man.  seabeyond   Mar-23-08 08:43 PM   #170 
        - I think it's because in both cases  lwfern   Mar-24-08 02:04 AM   #171 
           - i dont agree. another thing i dont agree with is the shying from whore and slut  seabeyond   Mar-24-08 11:13 AM   #172 
              - I agree that this is how we symbolize the world  lwfern   Mar-24-08 02:38 PM   #173 
  - How disgusting this is is only magnified by the fact that  Dr_eldritch   Dec-26-06 11:47 PM   #12 
  - At least, according to Danny DeVito...  Chulanowa   Dec-26-06 11:52 PM   #14 
  - I have a hard time watching letterman nowadays  lwfern   Dec-27-06 12:47 AM   #18 
  - I watch David Letterman nearly every night he's on and I don't see how you could call him sexist  Syrinx   Dec-27-06 02:27 AM   #22 
  - Not sure why you think sexism is related to his party identity  lwfern   Dec-27-06 09:38 AM   #25 
  - of course you should be offended by sexism  Syrinx   Dec-28-06 01:05 AM   #80 
  - Picture Dave arriving on stage with the 2 floppy models fawning and falling all over him  omega minimo   Dec-27-06 01:44 PM   #33 
  - Sure, I can picture a stud-bunny show  Syrinx   Dec-28-06 01:21 AM   #81 
     - So seeing it in Black And White, Either/Or allows you to evade the actual issues.  omega minimo   Dec-28-06 02:45 AM   #86 
        - I'm not evading issues. Maybe you are inventing issues.  Syrinx   Dec-29-06 02:26 AM   #108 
  - I LOATHE Letterman  Madspirit   Apr-17-07 10:51 PM   #153 
  - You're entirely correct  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 04:40 PM   #46 
  - I can't stand Letterman  Madspirit   Feb-15-07 11:57 AM   #141 
  - And women dont do this right back at men?  TheMadMonk   Dec-27-06 01:01 AM   #19 
  - your kidding about the wage part? or just making shit up because.......  bettyellen   Dec-27-06 07:13 AM   #23 
  - Legal equality. Same job = same pay. (At least here in Aust.)  TheMadMonk   Dec-27-06 03:45 PM   #37 
     - Australia is NOT the U.S.  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 04:50 PM   #47 
     - You are incorrect about wage equality in Australia as well actually  NobleCynic   Dec-27-06 09:16 PM   #65 
     - the law is not the reality, in australia or here. so you are wrong and insulting to  bettyellen   Dec-28-06 09:21 PM   #101 
        - The law is a bloody good start though.  TheMadMonk   Dec-29-06 04:28 AM   #109 
        - so you want women equal, but believe theoretical equality should be enough  bettyellen   Dec-29-06 07:20 AM   #113 
        - No I believe it is a staging point in the journey towards equality.  TheMadMonk   Dec-30-06 12:29 AM   #125 
           - some idiots will not change largely because other men let them think it's okay  bettyellen   Dec-30-06 03:42 PM   #129 
        - There are a lot of problems with this post.  lwfern   Dec-29-06 09:34 AM   #117 
        - I say the law is illustrative of improvement.  TheMadMonk   Dec-30-06 02:26 AM   #126 
           - Go on, keep digging  lwfern   Dec-30-06 05:22 AM   #127 
        - demands for instant compliance  Morgana LaFey   Dec-29-06 06:22 PM   #120 
        - You know what I am really sick of? Men who invade the women's  smirkymonkey   Mar-23-07 06:49 PM   #146 
           - and if there is a post about how women discriminate against men in certain circumstances  undercutter2006   Aug-03-07 09:05 PM   #163 
              - What the fuck are you doing here on a "Women's Rights Forum"?  quantessd   Feb-23-08 12:15 AM   #167 
  - Bettyellen is right about the wages still being unequal  NobleCynic   Dec-27-06 08:51 AM   #24 
  - Good question.  twenty4blackbirds   Dec-27-06 03:34 PM   #36 
  - Tucks in bib and fronts up to a corby pie.  TheMadMonk   Dec-29-06 04:42 AM   #110 
  - "Cream my jeans"?  knitter4democracy   Dec-27-06 03:52 PM   #38 
  - I have never heard my S.O. say 'cream my jeans'  realpolitik   Dec-28-06 08:29 PM   #100 
     - That's why I said "most."  knitter4democracy   Dec-29-06 07:03 AM   #111 
  - No, the war isn't won, but the American culture has misogyny and misanthropy woven in its fabric.  necklace   Feb-17-07 01:44 PM   #142 
  - Yeah, it's a distraction from the fact De Vito looks like a fire hydrant mated with a toad  omega minimo   Dec-27-06 01:59 AM   #21 
  - K & R and...  Triana   Dec-27-06 12:16 PM   #28 
  - And I didn't even follow my own advice  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 04:53 PM   #48 
  - Whereas women never objectify men  the other one   Dec-27-06 12:28 PM   #29 
  - Whereas women never objectify men  the other one   Dec-27-06 12:29 PM   #30 
  - "This thread deserves to be hijacked." Bully behavior proves the OP's point:  omega minimo   Dec-27-06 01:07 PM   #31 
  - wondering... do (we) women, look the other way because we're afraid...  nashville_brook   Dec-27-06 02:42 PM   #35 
     - well after long enough ya get tired of......  omega minimo   Dec-27-06 06:08 PM   #57 
  - I just knew that * posted here!  femrap   Dec-27-06 11:38 PM   #73 
  - Are you asking people to apologize for their Y chromosome? n/t  ElboRuum   Dec-27-06 01:24 PM   #32 
  - No.  undergroundpanther   Dec-27-06 04:01 PM   #40 
  - Yes. SILENCE CONDONES, dammit.  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 05:09 PM   #50 
  - I agreed with you  undergroundpanther   Dec-27-06 08:03 PM   #60 
  - Let's make this clear.  ElboRuum   Dec-28-06 09:06 AM   #89 
     - "if you'd all just knock it off"  lukasahero   Dec-28-06 09:23 AM   #90 
     - Sure...  ElboRuum   Dec-28-06 09:26 AM   #92 
        - Didn't really bother me, no, because I am not guilty  lukasahero   Dec-28-06 10:29 AM   #93 
           - Ugh... whatever...  ElboRuum   Dec-28-06 11:15 AM   #94 
     - Christ! The problem with men is that "Its Alllllllllllllll about them"!  smirkymonkey   Mar-23-07 07:02 PM   #147 
  - Only if  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 05:07 PM   #49 
     - Even if I did feel that it does give me some special right...  ElboRuum   Dec-28-06 09:25 AM   #91 
        - maybe it's not misandry, but not liking YOU, and YOUR BEHAVIOR....  bettyellen   Dec-28-06 09:40 PM   #102 
  - I wish  undergroundpanther   Dec-27-06 03:52 PM   #39 
  - Terrific rant  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 05:10 PM   #51 
  - I could've been more  undergroundpanther   Dec-27-06 08:06 PM   #61 
     - Cowards, like *. nt  femrap   Dec-27-06 11:41 PM   #74 
     - Oh, honey, most of them are going to get all defensive and sexist  Morgana LaFey   Dec-28-06 11:15 PM   #103 
  - One of the guys at the high school where I work  lwfern   Dec-27-06 06:06 PM   #56 
  - The BIGGEST male privilege ...  Triana   Dec-27-06 10:17 PM   #70 
  - The BIGGEST male privilege ...is not being aware of just how privileged they are.  quantessd   Feb-23-08 12:50 AM   #168 
  - YES! Terrific post!  Mad_Dem_X   Dec-28-06 01:58 PM   #96 
  - Six months???  bumblebee1   Aug-12-07 11:45 PM   #165 
  - Not one male who deigned to grace this thread with their presence  Morgana LaFey   Dec-27-06 05:18 PM   #53 
  - Sounds pretty regressive, don't it?  omega minimo   Dec-27-06 06:22 PM   #59 
  - Problem is they LIKE the privilege  undergroundpanther   Dec-27-06 08:20 PM   #62 
  - Be aware of when you cross the line between helping and hurting  NobleCynic   Dec-27-06 08:57 PM   #64 
  - Let me ask you this  undergroundpanther   Dec-27-06 09:30 PM   #67 
  - Venting one's anger? No problem there.  NobleCynic   Dec-27-06 10:03 PM   #69 
     - How do you normally handle sexist posts on DU?  lwfern   Dec-27-06 11:01 PM   #72 
     - You misunderstand me on several fronts  NobleCynic   Dec-28-06 12:03 AM   #76 
        - what is the "most extreme position possible" you're referring to?  lwfern   Dec-28-06 12:42 AM   #79 
           - Well put  NobleCynic   Dec-28-06 01:32 AM   #82 
           - playing around with language  lwfern   Dec-28-06 02:03 AM   #83 
           - Touche  NobleCynic   Dec-28-06 02:34 AM   #85 
              - At 3am  lwfern   Dec-28-06 11:37 AM   #95 
              - The people who get to define racism and sexism are the people  Morgana LaFey   Dec-28-06 11:59 PM   #106 
                 - The problem with treating disagreement as an attack is that it is too easy  NobleCynic   Dec-29-06 09:17 AM   #115 
                 - I don't think you made yourself unclear at all  Morgana LaFey   Dec-29-06 06:07 PM   #118 
                 - Hear, hear!  smirkymonkey   Mar-23-07 07:11 PM   #148 
           - But you know what?  Morgana LaFey   Dec-28-06 11:48 PM   #105 
              - Please don't read the worst possible intent into every word I say,  NobleCynic   Dec-29-06 08:50 AM   #114 
                 - Au contraire  Morgana LaFey   Dec-29-06 06:12 PM   #119 
           - O.M.G. BRAVO!!!!!!  lukasahero   Dec-28-06 07:40 AM   #88 
     - Here's a clue for you  Morgana LaFey   Dec-28-06 11:29 PM   #104 
  - Be aware of when you cross the line between pontificating and patronizing  omega minimo   Dec-28-06 02:05 AM   #84 
  - Having been around for awhile....  femrap   Dec-27-06 11:58 PM   #75 
  - "Supposedly, this imbalance of extreme machismo is to come to an end soon."  omega minimo   Dec-28-06 12:13 AM   #77 
     - Supposedly people are going to realize that  femrap   Dec-28-06 07:50 PM   #97 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-28-06 12:30 AM   #78 
  - That's fairly standard  MountainLaurel   Jan-06-07 05:36 PM   #139 
  - ...  sniffa   Feb-21-07 11:01 AM   #144 
  - Some sexist threads make me want to bang my head against the wall  Nikia   Dec-28-06 07:51 PM   #98 
  - Please come back and share when you can  Morgana LaFey   Dec-29-06 12:10 AM   #107 
  - Lovely double standard here.  TheMadMonk   Dec-29-06 07:16 AM   #112 
  - A peace offering, and well put.  NobleCynic   Dec-29-06 09:33 AM   #116 
  - The double standard you mention  Morgana LaFey   Dec-29-06 06:35 PM   #121 
     - Morgana, aren't you being a little harsh?  lwfern   Dec-29-06 07:31 PM   #122 
     - Yes, I do believe I was  Morgana LaFey   Dec-30-06 05:47 PM   #135 
     - Women must ignore lousy men. Good men must defend. women.  TheMadMonk   Dec-29-06 11:43 PM   #123 
        - dude, don't you get tired of digging that hole you're in?  lwfern   Dec-30-06 12:02 AM   #124 
        - gosh, your abuser friend really appreciated your help, how nice!  bettyellen   Dec-30-06 04:32 PM   #130 
        - Not unlike Ford pardoning his buddy Nixon  lwfern   Dec-30-06 05:25 PM   #131 
        - it's telling he wants an award for helping an abuser and makes excuses why it's not  bettyellen   Dec-30-06 05:33 PM   #132 
        - Astonishingly apropos  Morgana LaFey   Dec-30-06 05:43 PM   #134 
           - "paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom"  bettyellen   Dec-30-06 05:55 PM   #136 
        - quie possibly the best description of male privelege ever --  Morgana LaFey   Dec-30-06 05:34 PM   #133 
        - Truly amazing  Morgana LaFey   Dec-30-06 06:10 PM   #137 
  - Machismo as Male Bonding, Exhibit A: Street Taunts  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-31-06 10:37 PM   #138 
  - Sure they don't.  raccoon   Mar-27-07 10:13 AM   #152 
  - I see it  Madspirit   Feb-15-07 11:50 AM   #140 
  - I hate to say it, but I actually think the Republican men in my  smirkymonkey   Mar-23-07 07:59 PM   #149 
     - funny you should say that  lwfern   Mar-23-07 11:08 PM   #150 
     - The reason ThomCat gets it  Karenina   Jun-25-07 07:27 PM   #156 
     - And we should graciously sacrifice our issues "for the good of the party"  thecatburgler   Apr-17-07 11:58 PM   #154 
        - Well, we've all heard it said before...  bliss_eternal   Apr-18-07 01:12 AM   #155 
  - i never tire of morgana threads  sniffa   Feb-21-07 10:58 AM   #143 
  - GANG RAPE n/t  Karenina   Jun-25-07 07:28 PM   #157 
  - Funny you should post that today.  lwfern   Jun-25-07 09:51 PM   #158 
     - This thread is my first foray  Karenina   Jun-26-07 06:53 AM   #159 
     - Wait'll you see this  Morgana LaFey   Jun-27-07 01:56 PM   #160 
        - Thank you.  lwfern   Jun-27-07 02:43 PM   #161 
           - It's gone now, but that first paragraph was snuff, pure and simple  Morgana LaFey   Jun-27-07 08:46 PM   #162 
           - Because we're just women. nt  Katherine Brengle   Aug-03-07 09:38 PM   #164 
  - I think I finally expressed the point I wanted to make months ago  Nikia   Sep-04-07 07:09 PM   #166 
     - ...women who they see as lower status and/or not part of their group...  quantessd   Feb-23-08 02:16 AM   #169 
 

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