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Tue Jul-07-09 08:50 AM
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| 97. i guess over decade ago i said something to mil about this. last week she went into a rant |
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about me saying way back then, men dont babysit their kids any more than mothers do.
i told her last week as she proclaimed she just wouldnt be pc, it isnt about women or feminism. when i speak out about saying men "babysit" kids i am standing up for men.
what mother would be told she is a mere babysitter
i have two brothers raising their kids. they hardly think they are babysitting
this term for fathers is offensive for the father
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| -The Male Privilege Checklist |
bloom |
Nov-21-05 09:41 PM |
#0 |
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ugh ugh ugh |
Caoimhe |
Nov-21-05 09:45 PM |
#1 |
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They nauseate me as well. nt |
Bassic |
Mar-31-06 10:56 AM |
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So I guess you think none of those privilege applies to you. |
Hello_Kitty |
Oct-29-09 09:25 PM |
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Ok, so what are individual guys supposed to do about all that? |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-21-05 09:49 PM |
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In my opinion |
Bjornsdotter |
Nov-21-05 10:00 PM |
#3 |
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I asked a similar question |
mzteris |
Jun-27-09 11:40 AM |
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I don't believe there is such a thing as white privilege |
Vincent441 |
Jun-27-10 01:05 PM |
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and.... ? i guess you are probably white? probably a man? n/t |
Scout |
Jun-28-10 12:09 PM |
#120 |
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Alas poor Vincent - he disrupted poorly |
lukasahero |
Jun-28-10 06:50 PM |
#121 |
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oh thanks. :hi: n/t |
Scout |
Jun-28-10 09:41 PM |
#122 |
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Individual guys.... |
bloom |
Nov-21-05 10:13 PM |
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Next time you're in a mixed discussion group |
belle |
Nov-21-05 10:35 PM |
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Jan-15-08 12:26 PM |
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What advice I would give men? WTF!?! |
Poncius |
May-04-11 05:34 PM |
#126 |
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the last one says it all |
Skittles |
Nov-21-05 10:19 PM |
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Nov-21-05 11:01 PM |
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you are living proof |
Skittles |
Nov-21-05 11:18 PM |
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Ever think that you're dealing with the wrong women? |
Heddi |
Nov-22-05 01:05 AM |
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I love the smell of misogyny in the morning... eom |
lukasahero |
Nov-22-05 08:32 AM |
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Amen! Amen! Amen! THAT says it all! |
funflower |
Dec-07-05 11:48 PM |
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The last one is just a dig, not an argument. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-10-06 07:07 AM |
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i'm sure i've received white privilage that i wasn't aware of |
nashville_brook |
Dec-31-06 03:27 PM |
#68 |
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Well stated. |
lwfern |
Dec-31-06 07:24 PM |
#69 |
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How about the fact that |
NC_Nurse |
Nov-21-05 10:36 PM |
#7 |
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Student Nurse here--graduate as RN in June |
Heddi |
Nov-22-05 01:11 AM |
#11 |
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The "caregiver" professions always get much less than the average |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Apr-01-06 04:31 AM |
#49 |
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People are so concerned about the quality of day care workers and nursing home workers, |
raccoon |
Jul-12-07 11:21 AM |
#75 |
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Librarian here |
MountainLaurel |
Nov-22-05 11:33 AM |
#13 |
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Not only that--in the nineteenth century, most secretaries were men, |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-23-05 03:29 PM |
#16 |
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I had heard that men were the first Typists...but |
femrap |
Nov-24-05 04:10 PM |
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Well, I once had a roommate who was a lecturer at the Yale Art Gallery, |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-24-05 06:19 PM |
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There is a reason men avoid this field. |
One_Life_To_Give |
Dec-02-05 05:41 PM |
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A post filled to the brim with the sexism of the era |
Morgana LaFey |
Dec-30-06 06:23 PM |
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Excellent examples of how patriarchy hurts and restricts men as well as women. n/t |
PanoramaIsland |
Aug-03-10 02:09 PM |
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Thank you for posting this. |
MountainLaurel |
Nov-22-05 11:34 AM |
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The Male Gaze |
omega minimo |
Nov-22-05 11:46 PM |
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May-04-06 11:17 PM |
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Exactly!! The Male Gaze is totally self-absorbed!!! |
omega minimo |
May-05-06 11:12 PM |
#51 |
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As a single parent... |
bigmonster |
Nov-25-05 08:00 AM |
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And don't forget - all any woman really needs is a good hard |
Bunny |
Nov-25-05 08:43 AM |
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Hi bigmonster!! |
newyawker99 |
Dec-04-05 11:24 AM |
#23 |
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Welcome to DU, bigmonster! |
funflower |
Dec-07-05 11:53 PM |
#25 |
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Number 11 can have sever legal implications.... |
AnneD |
Mar-12-11 04:19 PM |
#125 |
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Guess I am unaware |
One_Life_To_Give |
Dec-02-05 05:33 PM |
#21 |
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"Why do women think that whatever they do reflects on all women?" |
lukasahero |
May-14-07 10:01 AM |
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Jan-13-06 12:54 PM |
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I am not sure about #26! |
CBHagman |
Jan-16-06 01:19 PM |
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Hmm. Fair Enough. |
Cherry Blossom |
Jan-17-06 12:10 AM |
#28 |
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See #45 Male Privilege, like White Privilege, if you got it you got it |
omega minimo |
Jan-20-06 10:21 PM |
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I understand all that. But it is very hard to do anything about it. |
Kipling |
Jan-18-06 02:36 PM |
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#14 #15 #20 #35 |
omega minimo |
Jan-20-06 11:01 PM |
#33 |
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Yes, you are not only prejudiced, you've been actively discriminating |
Morgana LaFey |
Dec-30-06 07:28 PM |
#66 |
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The guy who originally wrote this list |
Ally McLesbian |
Jan-18-06 04:57 PM |
#30 |
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He didn't write "Ten Reasons Same-Sex Marriage Is Wrong" and anyway... |
bloom |
Jan-23-06 07:38 PM |
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AH... |
Ally McLesbian |
Jan-30-06 11:18 AM |
#47 |
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A few responses |
Orrex |
Jan-20-06 11:40 AM |
#31 |
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Try to find a man who gains insight from the list without refuting it |
omega minimo |
Jan-20-06 11:04 PM |
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I should just accept it as true, without consideration? No thanks. |
Orrex |
Jan-21-06 08:21 AM |
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So you didn't even try to find one, did you? INSIGHT I said insight |
omega minimo |
Jan-21-06 12:21 PM |
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What insight might I gain, perchance? |
Orrex |
Jan-21-06 01:55 PM |
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Well that's really up to you, isn't it? |
omega minimo |
Jan-22-06 06:12 PM |
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I imagine that this is the crux of our disagreement |
Orrex |
Jan-22-06 11:28 PM |
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Insight, consideration & "rtbackatcha tone" are in the eye of the beholder |
omega minimo |
Jan-23-06 02:42 PM |
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The limitations of the medium |
Orrex |
Jan-23-06 03:43 PM |
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Orrex will you please do us the great honor |
omega minimo |
Jan-23-06 05:10 PM |
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Self delete because I PM'd you instead... |
Orrex |
Jan-23-06 09:58 PM |
#45 |
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empathy |
omega minimo |
Jan-24-06 12:04 AM |
#46 |
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I think your points were valid and deserve discussion. n/t |
Finder |
Jan-22-06 08:04 PM |
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Hang on a second. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-10-06 07:02 AM |
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Will |
Cell 17B |
Sep-15-06 02:56 PM |
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Answer to #43 |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-06-06 01:39 PM |
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Yep |
Roxi |
Oct-10-06 06:53 PM |
#60 |
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denial |
Cell 17B |
Sep-14-06 01:02 PM |
#52 |
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A few thoughts: |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-04-06 08:21 PM |
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As I said in post #55, #43 has happened to me several times |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-06-06 01:44 PM |
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#43 has happened to me several times as well. |
lwfern |
Oct-07-06 12:57 AM |
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Making a point about #43, happens to me all the time |
lukasahero |
Oct-11-06 07:15 AM |
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I got that "smile" order last week |
lwfern |
May-30-07 12:49 PM |
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43 certainly is universal and in southern europe or wall st they grab your ass too. |
bettyellen |
Dec-30-06 05:26 PM |
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Great list |
barb162 |
Oct-13-06 12:24 AM |
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Seeking Susan Anthony........... GREAT Article ! |
LetsThink |
Oct-13-06 11:43 AM |
#63 |
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#6,12,31,32 |
pecwae |
Dec-31-06 12:22 PM |
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Heh. I'm not surprised... |
Triana |
May-14-07 11:59 AM |
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You know, I think I've encountered another one |
Orrex |
Jul-10-07 12:46 PM |
#73 |
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My thoughts? THANK YOU!!! |
lukasahero |
Jul-10-07 02:45 PM |
#74 |
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Is it a privilege to receive praise under such circumstances? |
Boojatta |
Jul-13-07 07:56 PM |
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It's a privilege to live your life receiving constant praise for doing very little. |
Katherine Brengle |
Jul-24-07 11:10 PM |
#77 |
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Or my favorite... babysitting... |
WildClarySage |
Jul-25-07 08:29 AM |
#78 |
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This is one of my biggest pet peeves in the world - and my husband's. |
Katherine Brengle |
Jul-26-07 07:37 AM |
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i guess over decade ago i said something to mil about this. last week she went into a rant |
seabeyond |
Jul-07-09 08:50 AM |
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Why does it have to be about men to hold sway? |
lukasahero |
Jul-07-09 10:09 AM |
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because all battles arent about women. it could be argued in that manner |
seabeyond |
Jul-07-09 10:23 AM |
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also, it should be enough. but they are repug, fox news watchin |
seabeyond |
Jul-07-09 10:42 AM |
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Seems fitting |
Orrex |
Feb-29-08 12:13 PM |
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What about the male propaganda machines . . . . ??? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-07 11:24 PM |
#80 |
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kick |
Swamp Rat |
Jan-10-08 03:56 AM |
#81 |
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Thank you! |
AspieGrrl |
Jan-10-08 07:56 AM |
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As a corollary of #18: |
knitter4democracy |
Jan-10-08 08:36 PM |
#83 |
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Is that really a corollary? |
Jim__ |
Jan-14-08 08:08 AM |
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I have, and I've never seen attacks like what I had happen to me. |
knitter4democracy |
Jan-14-08 06:53 PM |
#86 |
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Times will not change |
km7368 |
Jan-11-08 08:44 PM |
#84 |
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I have the privilege of not having to ask to be called "Senator" in a committee hearing I Chair |
omega minimo |
Jun-25-09 01:40 PM |
#89 |
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Don't really have an issue with any of them |
badacid |
Jun-25-09 08:51 PM |
#90 |
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I just gotta say |
TellTheTruth82 |
Jun-26-09 05:37 AM |
#91 |
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well this religion sure preaches male head of household crap |
Scout |
Jun-26-09 09:05 PM |
#92 |
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From the Lutheran Evangelical Church: |
noamnety |
Jun-27-09 08:07 AM |
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but |
TellTheTruth82 |
Jun-29-09 10:26 AM |
#96 |
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From the baptist church: |
noamnety |
Jun-27-09 08:13 AM |
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You, or anyone else, saying "that's insane" doesn't alter one bit the fact that lots of men still |
raccoon |
Jul-16-09 12:32 PM |
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Awesome list! |
Azalea |
Jul-14-09 04:58 PM |
#101 |
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#46 Can make babies at any stage in life. NT |
IDFbunny |
Jul-15-09 12:32 PM |
#102 |
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Instead |
Azalea |
Jul-15-09 03:10 PM |
#103 |
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I think the post was in reference to the horrific statements being made about |
lukasahero |
Jul-15-09 06:31 PM |
#104 |
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it's a man, baby |
musette_sf |
Jul-16-09 06:10 PM |
#106 |
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I've really gotta let go of my manners sometimes |
lukasahero |
Jul-16-09 06:35 PM |
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#43 |
Brigid |
Jul-21-09 08:43 PM |
#108 |
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Does number 31 belong in the list? |
Boojatta |
Sep-02-09 04:34 PM |
#109 |
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it's worse to exclude one gender |
Scout |
Sep-02-09 07:37 PM |
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i see you're responding to "Ignored" |
musette_sf |
Sep-03-09 09:44 PM |
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they were wondering about #31 being appropriate... |
Scout |
Sep-04-09 09:56 AM |
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Oct-29-09 05:54 PM |
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I'm just going to apply to a few of these that feel especially noticable to me |
Ukonkivi |
Dec-08-09 04:19 AM |
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#18 #20 #21 #24 #25 #26 #29 #37 #45 ... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Dec-09-09 01:55 PM |
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There was a time in my life I thought most of this stuff was self-evident. The first |
retread |
Jun-22-10 10:42 AM |
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because to acknowledge it exists |
mzteris |
Jun-22-10 06:46 PM |
#118 |
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Black females are never accorded a position of "privilege". |
Glassunion |
Dec-04-10 01:48 PM |
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May-13-11 11:22 AM |
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