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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 07:08 PM
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23. and now, back to what you actually said

that I responded to:

I've seen two of them drive off good men because those men couldn't bear to stand by and see their kids raised like that on top of the physical and emotional abuse those women were dishing out.

... leaving much of your subsequent post looking just kinda irrelevant.

When it comes to "attitude", I think I've seen yours before. If I google "men's rights", I find lots of it.

I have little doubt that attitudes like yours and all those who demonize men as the only negative force in a family's existence is the cause of far more violence than you will ever admit. Men are absolutely NOT the only destructive, or violent factor in a family's life. The problem, as so many maintain, is certainly not just because they are men and have testosterone.

I think I'll exit before I choke on all the straw.

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  -'I loved my father, but he destroyed my life' - child of domestic violence victim closeupready  Apr-10-09 02:07 PM   #0 
  - gulp. the line "I loved my father but he destroyed my life"  cali   Apr-10-09 02:09 PM   #1 
     - sad and infuriating how common bad fathers are.  closeupready   Apr-10-09 02:14 PM   #2 
        - The same can be said for bad mothers. The damage I've seen many, many bad mothers do is as  poverlay   Apr-10-09 02:28 PM   #3 
        - Good point.  closeupready   Apr-10-09 02:45 PM   #4 
        - well, yes, but bad mothers don't murder their entire extended families and partners' coworkers  zazen   Apr-10-09 03:02 PM   #5 
        - Who do you think raises those "controlling, battering a**holes"? I'm sure some of their mothers  poverlay   Apr-10-09 03:52 PM   #8 
           - daughters/sons are evenly distributed among bad parents, yet sons kill more  zazen   Apr-10-09 07:41 PM   #15 
           - eh?  iverglas   Apr-11-09 09:48 PM   #18 
           - I can't believe you just said that. If you really need me to spell it out for you I will.  poverlay   Apr-12-09 06:30 AM   #19 
           - I know more than a few men who are rarely allowed to see their children and have no legal control  poverlay   Apr-13-09 04:03 PM   #22 
              - and now, back to what you actually said  iverglas   Apr-13-09 07:08 PM   #23 
              - Not original. Do try and understand before you attack. It makes you sound intelligent....  poverlay   Apr-13-09 08:14 PM   #24 
                 - I wonder who you're speaking to  iverglas   Apr-13-09 08:46 PM   #25 
                    - The evidence is in the logic proof. If you're so very superior then why  poverlay   Apr-14-09 10:06 AM   #26 
                       - I'm sorry  iverglas   Apr-14-09 11:20 AM   #27 
                          - The utterly useless and  poverlay   Apr-14-09 11:42 PM   #28 
                             - you seem to be the only one "wasting time" trying to debate  Scout   Apr-15-09 08:19 AM   #29 
                             - I was speaking for myself, as well as all 26 people in this office. 16 of them women, and they can  poverlay   Apr-15-09 09:08 AM   #31 
                                - you've got 26 other people in your office discussing this thread?  Scout   Apr-15-09 09:25 AM   #32 
                                   - Most of them, yes. Odd, I haven't seen any other posts in this thread from you at all. Just  poverlay   Apr-15-09 10:27 AM   #33 
                                      - so big strong man Poverlay DOES speak for you poor little womens in your office  Scout   Apr-15-09 10:37 AM   #34 
                                      - lol, you sure told us. Too bad you  poverlay   Apr-15-09 12:44 PM   #36 
                                      - What? Wait....I thought you said Becca was a co-worker  Hello_Kitty   Apr-20-09 05:28 PM   #48 
                                      - y'know, I don't actually give a crap  iverglas   Apr-15-09 01:03 PM   #37 
                                      - If "Becca" is going to write for DU consumption  iverglas   Apr-15-09 01:07 PM   #38 
                                      - don't waste any more time on them ... neither can comprehend  Scout   Apr-15-09 02:57 PM   #39 
                                      - "May want", "So might you." ? .. If you are going to refuse to  poverlay   Apr-16-09 03:17 AM   #41 
                                      - Oh dear God. There are two possible scenarios with this.  Hello_Kitty   Apr-20-09 04:06 PM   #44 
                                         - and here I didn't think  iverglas   Apr-20-09 04:57 PM   #46 
                                         - Lol, the sock puppet definitely, and it's crying in my drawer right now. Well, I'm off to  poverlay   Apr-20-09 04:58 PM   #47 
                                         - i bet they'll be weak, whiney, girly-women, who need a big strong man  Scout   Apr-21-09 03:05 PM   #55 
                             - I'm still trying to figure out  iverglas   Apr-15-09 05:18 PM   #40 
                                - I wish you the best of luck with trying to resolve your  poverlay   Apr-19-09 02:45 PM   #42 
              - Children aren't awarded to their mothers more often simply because they're women  Hello_Kitty   Apr-20-09 03:59 PM   #43 
                 - Wrong. 29 % of stay at home parents in 2000 were stay at home dads. Dad's awarded custody in  poverlay   Apr-20-09 05:53 PM   #49 
                    - You need to take a remedial statistics course. eom  Hello_Kitty   Apr-20-09 06:01 PM   #50 
                    - you seem to think you have a point  iverglas   Apr-20-09 06:03 PM   #51 
                    - in all the custody cases....  Scout   Apr-21-09 03:08 PM   #56 
                       - oh now Scout  iverglas   Apr-21-09 04:38 PM   #58 
           - "Who do you think raises those "controlling, battering a**holes"? "  raccoon   Apr-15-09 08:40 AM   #30 
              - yeah, eh?  iverglas   Apr-15-09 12:30 PM   #35 
        - Fewer mothers murder their children or their spouses. That's a fact. n/t  pnwmom   Apr-10-09 03:37 PM   #6 
        - Physically I'm sure you're right. My argument is well illustrated by "Cali's" post below.. I would  poverlay   Apr-10-09 04:00 PM   #9 
           - Testosterone is connected with more physical aggression.  pnwmom   Apr-10-09 04:56 PM   #10 
              - There is also a cultural warning as well as extremely obvious effects which tends to dampen the  poverlay   Apr-10-09 06:19 PM   #14 
                 - There are no mechanisms to remove children from abusive mothers?  Hello_Kitty   Apr-20-09 04:11 PM   #45 
                    - LIving next door to a violent mother, having the WHOLE neighborhood calling CPS, and having  poverlay   Apr-20-09 06:21 PM   #52 
                       - I could offer one of those logic courses  iverglas   Apr-20-09 06:28 PM   #53 
                          - No, that's NOT what I'm rebutting, which you would realize if you read more carefully. Upon reading  poverlay   Apr-20-09 09:28 PM   #54 
                             - what ARE you rebutting then? spell it out for those of us  Scout   Apr-21-09 03:13 PM   #57 
        - There are bad mothers,  Control-Z   Apr-11-09 09:10 PM   #17 
        - My mother was worse than my father. She was a dream killer  cali   Apr-10-09 03:43 PM   #7 
           - My wild guess, based on your few sentences, is that your mother  pnwmom   Apr-10-09 04:58 PM   #11 
           - she was absolutely a narcissist  cali   Apr-10-09 06:04 PM   #12 
              - If you read it,  pnwmom   Apr-10-09 06:12 PM   #13 
              - It's an excellent book.  bliss_eternal   Apr-10-09 09:22 PM   #16 
           - Same here.  skatterkat   Apr-13-09 10:33 AM   #20 
              - "Turned out, she was miserable and taking it out on all of us."  iverglas   Apr-13-09 03:37 PM   #21 

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