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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 06:57 PM
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21. but there is nothing worthwhile in it
astrology fell out of favor with the elite because it was bunk and useless bunk. They kept religion around because it was and is useful for manipulating and controlling the peasants.
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  -What caused the death of astrology? Lionel Mandrake  May-30-11 04:13 PM   #0 
  - Except for the Reagan administration, of course...  hlthe2b   May-30-11 04:19 PM   #1 
  - There's a group on DU for it too.  laconicsax   May-30-11 04:23 PM   #4 
  - I would have posted in that group, but ...  Lionel Mandrake   May-30-11 04:32 PM   #8 
  - Nor do I.  laconicsax   May-30-11 04:46 PM   #10 
     - Just as the DU Pets Group is not the place  Lionel Mandrake   May-30-11 07:20 PM   #22 
        - I don't know about that.  laconicsax   May-30-11 08:42 PM   #25 
           - Be that as it may, others would be offended. n/t  Lionel Mandrake   May-30-11 09:39 PM   #26 
  - Astrology isn't fiction  lbrtbell   May-30-11 05:48 PM   #18 
     - No astrology is fiction  WatsonT   May-30-11 05:52 PM   #19 
     - Sorry, but it is.  laconicsax   May-30-11 08:39 PM   #24 
  - Poor Nancy.  Lionel Mandrake   May-30-11 04:49 PM   #12 
  - Good riddance to bad rubbish.  laconicsax   May-30-11 04:20 PM   #2 
  - Science killed astrology  sakabatou   May-30-11 04:23 PM   #3 
  - Did you read the Original Post of this thread?  Boojatta   May-30-11 05:29 PM   #16 
  - Increasing literacy rates and public education  WatsonT   May-30-11 05:53 PM   #20 
     - Educated people are, by definition, literate.  Lionel Mandrake   May-30-11 10:53 PM   #27 
        - But literate people are not necessarily educated  WatsonT   May-30-11 10:58 PM   #28 
           - Let's talk about dates.  Lionel Mandrake   May-31-11 12:52 AM   #29 
              - "astrology "died" (or was marginalized) during the latter half of the seventeenth century"  WatsonT   May-31-11 04:51 PM   #46 
                 - When and why do you think that happened?  Lionel Mandrake   May-31-11 07:40 PM   #49 
  - Personally, I think it's an interesting topic  lillypaddle   May-30-11 04:24 PM   #5 
  - the ancient Egyptians were advanced beyond nearly all cultures...  hlthe2b   May-30-11 04:39 PM   #9 
     - Because keeping slaves and hereditary rule is so advanced...  jberryhill   May-31-11 07:48 AM   #32 
        - How does that negate their advances in science, construction..  hlthe2b   May-31-11 07:59 AM   #33 
           - The thread is about astrology  jberryhill   May-31-11 10:05 AM   #34 
           - Yes... it is about astrology... not about slavery & whatever other  hlthe2b   May-31-11 11:35 AM   #37 
              - Mysticism has always been a tool for hierarchical control  jberryhill   May-31-11 12:12 PM   #39 
           - Egypt was a fairly simple society, they just had a lot of manpower,  Odin2005   Jun-02-11 01:22 AM   #67 
  - The introduction of soft sciences  Riftaxe   May-30-11 04:26 PM   #6 
  - The soft sciences like psychology, sociology, ...  Lionel Mandrake   May-30-11 05:03 PM   #14 
     - You might be taking Riftaxe too literally.  Boojatta   May-30-11 05:37 PM   #17 
     - there is a reason reputable is in quotes  Riftaxe   Jun-01-11 01:37 AM   #52 
        - Some sciences are more reputable than others.  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-01-11 12:25 PM   #54 
  - Real hard science killed it and the alchemists.  ChrisBorg   May-30-11 04:30 PM   #7 
  - Alchemy is different.  Lionel Mandrake   May-30-11 05:16 PM   #15 
     - but there is nothing worthwhile in it  Warren Stupidity   May-30-11 06:57 PM   #21 
     - The loss of confidence in astrology among the elite  Lionel Mandrake   May-30-11 07:55 PM   #23 
     - The distinction between "astronomy" and "astrology" is an anachronism before about 1700  Recursion   May-31-11 07:48 AM   #31 
        - Yes and no.  Lionel Mandrake   May-31-11 11:41 AM   #38 
           - Thinking back, I agree with you, Group Captain  Recursion   May-31-11 12:26 PM   #40 
              - The notation we now use in differential calculus  Lionel Mandrake   May-31-11 03:41 PM   #42 
              - I have, however, read the Principia  Recursion   May-31-11 04:15 PM   #44 
              - "I also just like Leibniz's notation better."  laconicsax   May-31-11 04:13 PM   #43 
                 - specifically, the fact that it lets you treat dx as something is important  Recursion   May-31-11 04:16 PM   #45 
                    - The naive concept of a differential is indispensable.  Lionel Mandrake   May-31-11 08:07 PM   #50 
  - It don't work  izquierdista   May-30-11 04:47 PM   #11 
  - Well shit,  lillypaddle   May-30-11 04:52 PM   #13 
     - "Sexual Astrology" is even better..  Viva_La_Revolution   May-31-11 10:56 AM   #35 
        - Hey... If by "works", someone means "you can get laid"  jberryhill   May-31-11 11:21 AM   #36 
  - Eh? Newton was an occultist  Recursion   May-31-11 07:45 AM   #30 
  - Newton's theory of gravity involved occult forces,  Lionel Mandrake   May-31-11 03:19 PM   #41 
  - Just guessing but it might have been ...  GeorgeGist   May-31-11 07:05 PM   #47 
  - Nope, because it was "common sense" that started it.  laconicsax   May-31-11 07:29 PM   #48 
     - Some of this "common sense" is still with us.  Lionel Mandrake   May-31-11 08:20 PM   #51 
     - Well, nobody ever really thought the world is flat  Recursion   Jun-01-11 08:25 AM   #53 
        - Some did, and some still do think the Earth is flat.  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-01-11 02:11 PM   #55 
        - Sailing  Recursion   Jun-01-11 02:30 PM   #58 
           - You're right.  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-01-11 03:26 PM   #61 
              - Oops - I forgot about the precession of the equinoxes.  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-01-11 05:15 PM   #62 
                 - Yes, I did a paper on that  Recursion   Jun-01-11 09:01 PM   #65 
                    - That just makes things exciting.  laconicsax   Jun-01-11 09:32 PM   #66 
        - You're kidding, right?  laconicsax   Jun-01-11 02:18 PM   #56 
           - It's found in poetic language even today  Recursion   Jun-01-11 02:28 PM   #57 
  - Irreproducible results.  Orsino   Jun-01-11 02:48 PM   #59 
  - Here's a reproducible result:  laconicsax   Jun-01-11 02:55 PM   #60 
  - Some suggestions:  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-01-11 06:45 PM   #63 
  - Very interesting. Thank you.  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-01-11 08:59 PM   #64 
  - About that web site  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-02-11 12:40 PM   #68 
  - Where does that site point out that  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-02-11 08:49 PM   #69 
  - Was royal patronage of astrology a 16th century fad?  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-05-11 03:33 PM   #71 
  - There might have been plausible reasons for early people to believe in some crude astrology  struggle4progress   Jun-03-11 09:22 PM   #70 
     - Recursion made a similar point in post #53  Lionel Mandrake   Jun-05-11 03:58 PM   #72 
 

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