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The Constitution and the Cross
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When the Supreme Court takes up a religion case, it often prompts overheated charges: There is a war against Christianity under way; or civil liberties groups are trying to turn this into a secular nation. The court is scheduled to hear arguments on Wednesday in a case that raises none of these issues even though Americans may well be treated to another round of scare stories.

The narrow question is whether a large cross that has been placed on federal land violates the establishment clause of the First Amendment, the founders direction that there must be a wall of separation between church and state. The court should rule that it does.

The Veterans of Foreign Wars erected a cross in 1934 in San Bernardino County, Calif. in what is now the Mojave National Preserve to honor Americas war dead. Since then, the cross has been replaced several times, most recently around 1998. Its religious significance is clear, but the National Park Service has not allowed other religions to add symbols. In 1999, the park service denied a request by an individual to place a Buddhist memorial in the area. The cross has also been the site of Easter sunrise services for more than 70 years.

Frank Buono, a former assistant superintendent of the preserve who said that he still visits regularly, sued to challenge the displays constitutionality.
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  -The Constitution and the Cross groovedaddy  Oct-07-09 11:02 AM   #0 
  - It's very clearly a violation of the Separation of Church and State  ixion   Oct-07-09 11:07 AM   #1 
  - and a violation of the Constitution.  Xenotime   Nov-24-09 02:14 PM   #5 
  - Theres no such thing  Hollywood Trucker   Dec-31-09 03:31 PM   #8 
     - If we could only shorten the 1st amendment we would be better off...  rusty_rebar   Jun-11-10 03:52 PM   #14 
     - In essence you are right,  cleanhippie   Jul-04-10 01:14 PM   #15 
  - An an insult to Jews and other non-christians buried there. n/t  monmouth   Oct-07-09 12:07 PM   #2 
  - That would be nobody  NoNothing   Dec-21-09 11:51 AM   #7 
  - Its an insult to anyone not a xtian.  rd_kent   Oct-09-09 02:26 PM   #3 
  - It's historical...  MagnaChucka   Nov-16-09 11:43 PM   #4 
     - But it is NOT an historical monument, thats the point.  rd_kent   Dec-10-09 03:18 PM   #6 
  - It's a war memorial.  marginlized   Jan-02-10 12:01 AM   #9 
  - Conflicted  VoteForCantwell   Jan-02-10 03:32 PM   #10 
  - what separation?  scheuvrontk   Jan-05-10 09:09 AM   #11 
  - Agree  Metternich1815   May-05-10 11:27 PM   #12 
  - I agree. n/t  cheapdate   Jul-13-10 09:38 PM   #19 
  - The problem is not the cross, but not allowing other faiths.  Jmaxfie1   Feb-19-11 09:35 PM   #23 
  - Religion must be left out  pgarrison   May-14-10 07:24 AM   #13 
  - It is not in the Constitution that religion be "left out".  Caliman73   Jul-08-10 04:58 PM   #16 
  - The funny thing is  Axle_techie   Jul-11-10 02:55 PM   #17 
  - Ah yes, those damn fundamentalist atheists.  LAGC   Feb-03-11 05:51 AM   #22 
  - Cross can stay if...  knownothing   Jul-12-10 10:25 PM   #18 
  - agreed  Jmaxfie1   Feb-19-11 09:39 PM   #24 
  - LOL  lightfighter11b   Nov-17-10 06:44 PM   #20 
  - Actually,  mikekj   Dec-12-10 08:14 PM   #21 

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