| 118. It's been shown beyond any doubt that Wakefield falsified his data. n/t |
| -Anti-safety advocates, you've been duped! Wakefield has had NO impact on measles in the US. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 04:36 PM |
#0 |
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Is leaving out pertinent information fun? |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 04:42 PM |
#1 |
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Is this a game of 20 questions? Can anyone play? n/t |
pnwmom |
Jan-07-11 04:47 PM |
#3 |
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If you want. |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 05:13 PM |
#7 |
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You mean when the CDC started culling data for those up to 35 months? |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:22 PM |
#18 |
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Swing and a miss! |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 07:01 PM |
#29 |
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I'd prefer you just enlighten us all. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:03 PM |
#32 |
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The CDC isn't ignoring anything. You are. |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 07:10 PM |
#35 |
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I'm not ignoring anything. I posted a link to the data. Feel free to subtract the 27,786 |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:17 PM |
#37 |
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You're so close! Keep trying. |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 07:21 PM |
#40 |
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Sorry, you blew the first cat and mouse dance. I'm not |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:24 PM |
#43 |
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If you've been researching vaccines for years and you know it all then you admit to being dishonest. |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 09:06 PM |
#53 |
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I'm pointing out that Wakefield had no impact on vaccination coverage |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 09:14 PM |
#54 |
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Read that bit you put in bold in your OP. |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 09:23 PM |
#55 |
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You mean the part that demonstrates thousands of parents were told that their children |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 09:36 PM |
#56 |
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And right on cue, the goalposts start shifting. n/t |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 10:41 PM |
#57 |
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You should know. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 11:42 PM |
#58 |
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You go head and tell yourself that. |
laconicsax |
Jan-08-11 01:21 AM |
#60 |
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My argument again, is that Andrew Wakefield had no impact on disease and/or vaccination coverage |
mzmolly |
Jan-08-11 11:18 AM |
#63 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-08-11 12:32 PM |
#66 |
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sorry, you got pwned |
Teaser |
Jan-11-11 07:29 PM |
#108 |
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Gee. Such convincing |
mzmolly |
Jan-11-11 07:47 PM |
#110 |
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So? There was a measles outbreak, which made them realize |
pnwmom |
Jan-07-11 07:21 PM |
#41 |
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It doesn't, |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:26 PM |
#45 |
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You mean the CDC data is incorrect? |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:05 PM |
#11 |
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That's not at all what I mean. |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 07:00 PM |
#28 |
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Well then, feel free to educate me and |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:02 PM |
#31 |
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The problem isn't the CDC, it's you ignoring important information. n/t |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 07:19 PM |
#39 |
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My post is relevant to the fact that Andrew Wakefield had no impact |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:27 PM |
#46 |
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You've been educated over and over again. |
HuckleB |
Jan-08-11 06:01 PM |
#71 |
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I'm looking at the definitve data before drawing conclusions. |
mzmolly |
Jan-08-11 06:13 PM |
#74 |
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I regret that I don't have hours to debate, so this will have to do. |
hlthe2b |
Jan-07-11 04:46 PM |
#2 |
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Your answer doesn't address the statistics the OP provided. |
pnwmom |
Jan-07-11 04:51 PM |
#4 |
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Exactly. And the rate of disease declined greatly from the decade |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:09 PM |
#15 |
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There's a reason for that |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 07:03 PM |
#33 |
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1998 was 13 years ago. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:08 PM |
#34 |
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It's not like you brought up 1988-1998 in you OP. |
laconicsax |
Jan-07-11 07:19 PM |
#38 |
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This is where context |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:28 PM |
#47 |
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I've never gotten over seeing a child suffer from stage 4 cancer. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:58 PM |
#27 |
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Exactly. To save a little money, they use multi-use vials |
pnwmom |
Jan-07-11 07:16 PM |
#36 |
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I've no idea. All I want is a choice. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:21 PM |
#42 |
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Me, too. As I did when I wanted the killed-virus Polio vaccine, |
pnwmom |
Jan-07-11 07:24 PM |
#44 |
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I'll never forget when one parent who told their child's story of vaccine injury said "I've had |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:41 PM |
#48 |
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that's at BEST, suggestive... not conclusive of your claim |
jallo |
Jan-07-11 05:01 PM |
#5 |
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Huh? |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:07 PM |
#13 |
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To suggest those in public health & medicine are ANTI-SAFETY |
hlthe2b |
Jan-07-11 05:09 PM |
#6 |
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You mean like suggesting those who want formaldehyde removed from |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:06 PM |
#12 |
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You most certainly have... I hope you let your physician/nurse/pharmacist |
hlthe2b |
Jan-07-11 07:59 PM |
#49 |
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No, SHAME ON YOU. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 08:12 PM |
#50 |
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SHAME ON YOU For attacking those trying to help you... |
hlthe2b |
Jan-07-11 08:26 PM |
#51 |
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Tell me how I've derided anyone in medicine who isn't lying about the impact |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 08:32 PM |
#52 |
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The OP didn't accuse any of the medical professionals she uses |
pnwmom |
Jan-07-11 11:49 PM |
#59 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-07-11 06:36 PM |
#20 |
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I'm in the UK; care to post those vaccination numbers? |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jan-07-11 05:24 PM |
#8 |
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OMG,you mean there are places other than America? Who knew? |
virgogal |
Jan-07-11 05:45 PM |
#9 |
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Ah the UK. It's difficult to track in the UK given they do not account for the |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:04 PM |
#10 |
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Most people wouldn't be paying out of pocket though. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jan-07-11 06:29 PM |
#19 |
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There are clinics in the UK dedicated to providing a single measles jab. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:36 PM |
#21 |
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It was not MANY providers... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-10-11 08:33 AM |
#86 |
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I agree with you. I never understood why three vaccines would |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 12:41 PM |
#88 |
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The preservative was not at issue because the MMR never contained thiomersal. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jan-11-11 01:05 PM |
#106 |
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I was aware of this, which is why I said as much in the reponse you replied to. |
mzmolly |
Jan-11-11 07:46 PM |
#109 |
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That isn't the point, S.J. Many people here have argued that U.S. vaccination |
pnwmom |
Jan-07-11 06:38 PM |
#22 |
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Just found this. There was a single measles related death (in 2006) in 14 years in the UK. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:48 PM |
#25 |
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You're not seeing it because you don't want to see it. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jan-07-11 06:53 PM |
#26 |
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A ten percent decline in the three way MMR. Again we don't know what the single jab |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 07:01 PM |
#30 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-08-11 09:58 AM |
#62 |
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Ad hominem attacks again? What I "see" is factual data from the CDC, which I noted above. |
mzmolly |
Jan-08-11 11:35 AM |
#65 |
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What you see is, as always, only what you want to see. |
HuckleB |
Jan-08-11 05:47 PM |
#68 |
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I see the data provided by the CDC. You're ingoring it. |
mzmolly |
Jan-08-11 05:57 PM |
#69 |
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No, I am not ignoring it. |
HuckleB |
Jan-08-11 06:00 PM |
#70 |
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My routine involves telling the truth and not allowing |
mzmolly |
Jan-08-11 06:07 PM |
#72 |
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I'm curious |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Jan-07-11 06:09 PM |
#14 |
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I'm not defending Wakefield. I'm correcting the misinformed panic. |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:11 PM |
#16 |
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You're making excuses for Wakefield |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Jan-08-11 05:44 PM |
#67 |
| -
Excuses? I don't have to make excuses for |
mzmolly |
Jan-08-11 06:11 PM |
#73 |
| -
Do you think there's a valid link between autism and vaccines? |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Jan-08-11 06:44 PM |
#75 |
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In a small number of children, |
mzmolly |
Jan-08-11 11:00 PM |
#76 |
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That's all I needed to know |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Jan-09-11 09:22 AM |
#80 |
| -
Based on what kind of factual evidence? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-12-11 11:54 AM |
#116 |
| -
Google |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 02:53 PM |
#117 |
| -
Google is not evidence. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 03:15 PM |
#119 |
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I should have further clarified. The peer reviewed studies on google scholar are a good place |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 03:26 PM |
#120 |
| -
you obviously know how to post a link, how about a link to those studies. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-12-11 04:41 PM |
#124 |
| -
You can't find "mercury and brain damage?" Check your spelling. |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 05:27 PM |
#126 |
| -
I am not finding any studies that support your assertions. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 09:36 AM |
#147 |
| -
Perhaps that's because you don't understand |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:02 AM |
#152 |
| -
Those cut-and-paste skills certainly are impressive. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:06 AM |
#154 |
| -
Go back and read what I said. I'm not here to prove that X causes Y. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:11 AM |
#156 |
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You implicitly stated, in post #76, that there is a direct link "in a small number of children" |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:12 AM |
#157 |
| -
Nice spin. What I said was ... |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:20 AM |
#159 |
| -
You are right, you said vaccinations and I stated thermerisol. Allow me to re-ask. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:39 AM |
#162 |
| -
I did provide you with a link that supports my opinion. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:49 AM |
#165 |
| -
No you did not. Nothing in that link supoorts a vaccine/autism connection. Nothing. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:52 AM |
#167 |
| -
I've replied below. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:00 PM |
#173 |
| -
You'll get used to it. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 05:53 PM |
#129 |
| -
I've sourced studies several times. |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 07:10 PM |
#133 |
| -
Thank you for the link, but that is an inconclusive study. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 09:33 AM |
#146 |
| -
What do you mean inconclusive? |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 10:25 AM |
#149 |
| -
The very last line of the abstract... |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 10:40 AM |
#150 |
| -
You're unfamiliar with the subject matter, and what the results in your quote imply. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 10:54 AM |
#151 |
| -
Are you actually telling me that because I don't see it the same way you do, that I don't understand |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:03 AM |
#153 |
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No. I'm telling you that because you don't understand the findings, |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:06 AM |
#155 |
| -
Yes, I most certain CAN say that is does not support your opinion. You stated in post #76 that... |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:14 AM |
#158 |
| -
No I didn't. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:27 AM |
#160 |
| -
Again, you seem to me ignoring or misunderstanding what is being asked here. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:35 AM |
#161 |
| -
Did you read post 75? |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:41 AM |
#163 |
| -
I changed the word thermerisol to vaccines. Now back to the question. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:43 AM |
#164 |
| -
Change the words autism and vaccines to mercury and brain damage |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:50 AM |
#166 |
| -
but murcury and brain damage was NOT what you asserted, vaccines and autism was. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:53 AM |
#168 |
| -
cleanhippie, your patience is to be applauded. |
HuckleB |
Jan-13-11 11:54 AM |
#169 |
| -
Thanks, just trying to get the facts. An assertion was made and I want to see the evidence for it. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:56 AM |
#170 |
| -
Oh, I know. |
HuckleB |
Jan-13-11 11:58 AM |
#171 |
| -
Why would more mercruy in the brain be less of a concern? |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:07 PM |
#175 |
| -
I never stated that it was, ever. I am still waiting on the evidence to support your assertion. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 12:09 PM |
#176 |
| -
I said that I believe there is a valid link. So did the courts when they awarded |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:28 PM |
#182 |
| -
So, are you saying that you believe there is a link but have no actual data or evidence? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 12:30 PM |
#183 |
| -
No, I'm saying that you're ignoring evidence. Can mercury cause brain damage |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:31 PM |
#184 |
| -
What does that have to do with your orginal assertion that vaccines and autism are linked? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 12:35 PM |
#186 |
| -
Answer the question. A yes or no will do. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:40 PM |
#188 |
| -
Response is here... |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 01:05 PM |
#192 |
| -
That's not a response. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 01:14 PM |
#193 |
| -
Is there a problem with moving this to the new sub-thread? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 01:30 PM |
#197 |
| -
Resonse is here.... |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 01:05 PM |
#191 |
| -
Yes or no. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 01:15 PM |
#194 |
| -
Is there a problem with continuing this on a new sub-thread? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 01:29 PM |
#196 |
| -
Why would *no* mercury in the brain from the MMR be a concern? |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-13-11 12:20 PM |
#179 |
| -
I'm not concerned with mercury as it relates to MMR. I've confirmed that. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:25 PM |
#180 |
| -
LOL |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:05 PM |
#174 |
| -
There are no biological tests involved in diagnosing autism. I'll let you stew on that a bit. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:59 AM |
#172 |
| -
I never stated that it would be, you did. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 12:10 PM |
#177 |
| -
In any case. mercury has never been present in the MMR, at least in the UK |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-13-11 12:16 PM |
#178 |
| -
Right. It was brought up in the broader context of vaccination |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:26 PM |
#181 |
| -
YOU brought it up and evidence that it supported your assertion of a vaccine/autism link. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 12:33 PM |
#185 |
| -
Do you believe that mercury causes brain damage or not? |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:38 PM |
#187 |
| -
I have responded here... |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 01:04 PM |
#190 |
| -
My first link on vaccine coverage levels should be: |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:16 PM |
#17 |
| -
Wow. So we have a 50% HIGHER mmr vaccination rate now than in 1985. |
pnwmom |
Jan-07-11 06:42 PM |
#23 |
| -
Yep. We are very good about complying with vaccination recommendations for |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-11 06:44 PM |
#24 |
| -
If the argument is that Wakefield's being turned out as a fraud and huckster is irrelevant... |
varkam |
Jan-08-11 01:52 AM |
#61 |
| -
That's not my argument. My argument is that Wakefield |
mzmolly |
Jan-08-11 11:26 AM |
#64 |
| -
You really have a way with spinning things. |
laconicsax |
Jan-09-11 12:44 AM |
#77 |
| -
This is the meme |
mzmolly |
Jan-09-11 01:12 AM |
#78 |
| -
Now THAT'S some egocentrism! |
laconicsax |
Jan-09-11 01:44 AM |
#79 |
| -
You've proven my point. |
mzmolly |
Jan-09-11 09:52 AM |
#81 |
| -
It's telling that you don't care whether any studies exist which show a link between autism and MMR |
laconicsax |
Jan-09-11 09:30 PM |
#84 |
| -
I didn't say I don't care if the studies are true. |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 12:45 PM |
#89 |
| -
I hope you didn't give yourself whiplash from spinning so fast. |
laconicsax |
Jan-10-11 03:14 PM |
#90 |
| -
It is not I who suffers from whiplash. |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 03:41 PM |
#92 |
| -
I accept your apology. |
laconicsax |
Jan-10-11 09:08 PM |
#100 |
| -
"I look forward to reading your nonsensical reply." |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 09:11 PM |
#102 |
| -
LAST WORD!!! LAST WORD!!! |
laconicsax |
Jan-10-11 09:43 PM |
#103 |
| -
I just have to do it! |
HuckleB |
Jan-10-11 10:56 PM |
#105 |
| -
Actually two deaths; but the important issue is that there was a lot of extra illness |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-11-11 02:07 PM |
#107 |
| -
I'm don't take issue |
mzmolly |
Jan-11-11 07:50 PM |
#111 |
| -
There was another death in 2008. |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-12-11 05:54 AM |
#112 |
| -
Bias may effect reporting. My child had a viral rash |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 10:40 AM |
#113 |
| -
Following in Wakefield's footsteps in countering bias I see. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 11:27 AM |
#114 |
| -
So says Brian Deer. Eight parents involved in the original study |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 11:31 AM |
#115 |
| -
It's been shown beyond any doubt that Wakefield falsified his data. n/t |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 03:08 PM |
#118 |
| -
Feel free to |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 03:28 PM |
#121 |
| -
YES, it's a shame that he was! |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-12-11 04:10 PM |
#123 |
| -
It is a shame. Of course, his co-authors have since backed out and the journal retracted the paper. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 04:50 PM |
#125 |
| -
We've been over his study results, and the fact that his study is not |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 05:29 PM |
#127 |
| -
You've yet to cite those other studies. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 05:55 PM |
#130 |
| -
The thread is about Wakefield's impact on vaccination which is nill. |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 07:22 PM |
#134 |
| -
Hmm...a study saying that the half-life of thimerosal is significantly shorter than methylmercury. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 08:36 PM |
#135 |
| -
You must have overlooked the conclusion? |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 08:41 PM |
#136 |
| -
My mistake. I had several PubMed tabs open was reading off of the wrong one. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 10:17 PM |
#140 |
| -
I've never supported Wakefield's single jab notion, but I'm glad you admit that he never suggested |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 11:49 PM |
#141 |
| -
You brought up autism, you brought up the study, you brought up Wakefield's hypothesis. |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 12:05 AM |
#142 |
| -
Again. The record of conversation speaks for itself. I brought up Wakefield |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 12:10 AM |
#143 |
| -
LAST WORD! LAST WORD!! LAST WORD!!! |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 12:45 AM |
#144 |
| -
Does the irony of your childish statement |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 10:16 AM |
#148 |
| -
LAST WORD! I HAVE THE LAST WORD! ME! ME! ME! |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 04:04 PM |
#208 |
| -
didn't work for me either. eom |
uppityperson |
Jan-13-11 07:46 PM |
#217 |
| -
self-delete (wrong place) |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-13-11 03:39 AM |
#145 |
| -
If measles wasn't suggested by the doctor... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-12-11 04:08 PM |
#122 |
| -
She said there are many virus's that can cause a rash. |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 05:30 PM |
#128 |
| -
Then it's pretty clear that your child didn't have measles |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-12-11 06:51 PM |
#131 |
| -
No it's not clear. |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 07:03 PM |
#132 |
| -
There are four possibilities: |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 08:41 PM |
#137 |
| -
Are you a Doctor? |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-11 08:44 PM |
#138 |
| -
No, and no. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 09:34 PM |
#139 |
| -
He certainly had such an impact in the UK. |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-09-11 10:03 AM |
#82 |
| -
On measles death in the UK in fourteen years occurred in 2006. |
mzmolly |
Jan-09-11 10:17 AM |
#83 |
| -
Lots of kids got sick unnecessarily |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-10-11 08:27 AM |
#85 |
| -
If this is true it's not because anyone accepted the advice of Dr. Wakefield |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 12:35 PM |
#87 |
| -
And the goalposts shift again! |
laconicsax |
Jan-10-11 03:31 PM |
#91 |
| -
My goalposts haven't shifted once. |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 03:46 PM |
#93 |
| -
Whatever helps you sleep at night. n/t |
laconicsax |
Jan-10-11 05:03 PM |
#94 |
| -
I sleep just fine, |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 06:45 PM |
#95 |
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LOL! |
laconicsax |
Jan-10-11 07:15 PM |
#96 |
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Thanks! I was hoping for your familiar |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 07:30 PM |
#97 |
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I think you have me confused with someone else. |
laconicsax |
Jan-10-11 07:37 PM |
#98 |
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I wasn't sure that Huck was he, |
mzmolly |
Jan-10-11 08:19 PM |
#99 |
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No problem. n/t |
laconicsax |
Jan-10-11 09:10 PM |
#101 |
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. |
HuckleB |
Jan-10-11 10:55 PM |
#104 |
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Continuation of the sub-thread above |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 01:03 PM |
#189 |
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Do you think that mercury causes brain damage or not? YES or NO. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 01:17 PM |
#195 |
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I don't know the answer to that question. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 01:35 PM |
#198 |
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You don't know? Why do you feel qualified to understand any study, including the two I posted |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 02:00 PM |
#199 |
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So am I to understand that you cannot or will not provide me a link to a vaccine/autism study? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 02:15 PM |
#200 |
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Why do you feel qualified to understand any study, including the two valid studies I posted above |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 02:18 PM |
#201 |
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I will take your attempts at ad homenim as a NO, you will not. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 02:23 PM |
#202 |
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I've posted links to two valid studies that you don't understand, for obvious reasons. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 02:44 PM |
#203 |
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Neither one of those studies show a link between vaccines and autism. Not at all. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 02:49 PM |
#204 |
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LOL #6. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 03:03 PM |
#205 |
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Its dishonest to intentionally misrepresent my position like you have done. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 03:14 PM |
#206 |
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I've provided 6 (now 7) links to research which informs my opinion. Yet you continue to deny this. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 03:42 PM |
#207 |
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Ahh, this dishonesty in this one is strong! |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 05:44 PM |
#214 |
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You missed a bit. |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 06:31 PM |
#215 |
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I'm sorry you don't care for how the study was conducted by the PH.D's involved in |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 07:20 PM |
#216 |
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Is it tomorrow already? |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 08:53 PM |
#219 |
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No. "LAST WORD LAST WORD." |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 09:17 PM |
#222 |
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FYI: Holding you to your original claim isn't moving the goalposts. |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 09:36 PM |
#223 |
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I posted several studies. What specific words do you need to see? |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 10:13 PM |
#225 |
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None of those studies allege a connection between vaccination and autism. |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 10:46 PM |
#227 |
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Yes, they do "allege." Unless you need to see the words |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:04 PM |
#230 |
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dup delete |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:08 PM |
#232 |
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Offering you the actual LAST WORD here. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:11 PM |
#235 |
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Where is the dishonesty? You said studies didn't exist. Now you say you don't like the study results |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 07:47 PM |
#218 |
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Once again this isn't about vaccines |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-13-11 04:24 PM |
#210 |
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What is "this?" |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 04:40 PM |
#211 |
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Neither of these studies shows that vaccines cause autism |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-13-11 04:20 PM |
#209 |
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You're not reading very carefully. I was asked my opinion on |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 04:56 PM |
#212 |
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I'm taking a break from this thread. I'll check back tomorrow. |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 05:07 PM |
#213 |
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You have a very flexible definition of "tomorrow" |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 08:59 PM |
#220 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-13-11 09:01 PM |
#221 |
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You do realize that replies to you don't go anywhere if you don't respond immediately, right? |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 09:41 PM |
#224 |
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I do. And I also realize I'm having company |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 10:15 PM |
#226 |
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No one is forcing you to participate in an Internet discussion against your will. |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 10:55 PM |
#228 |
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I don't recall saying I was |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:10 PM |
#233 |
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What is an anti-safety advocate? |
HuckleB |
Jan-13-11 11:01 PM |
#229 |
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Someone who wants to limit choice by denying things like |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:07 PM |
#231 |
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In other words, "anti-safety" = anyone who chooses to pay attention to actual science. |
HuckleB |
Jan-13-11 11:11 PM |
#234 |
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The science on formaldehyde and mercury? |
mzmolly |
Jan-13-11 11:15 PM |
#236 |
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You've "heard." |
HuckleB |
Jan-13-11 11:17 PM |
#237 |
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locking |
TrogL |
Jan-14-11 12:16 AM |
#238 |
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